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Billtoo


Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Posts: 2116
Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Tue 07 Sep 2010, 13:37    Post_subject: Wary 0.7 mix-n-match feedback
Sub_title: 2.6.34.1 kernel
 

I made an iso with the 2.6.34.1 kernel and burned it to a dvd and
tried it out on 3 computers.
On my core 2 quad it seemed to work okay, it was connected to the
internet on eth0 on first boot but as soon as I created a save file
and installed the devx file the internet was no longer
connected.Running the setup wizard didn't help, it couldn't find etho
and I plugged in a linksys usb wireless adaptor and it couldn't see
that either.No modules would load, eth0 or wireless. (gave up)

On my hp core 2 duo the network worked fine, that computer uses a
linksys usb adaptor.The keyboard didn't work properly, the arrows keys
wouldn't work although the arrow keys on the numeric keypad side did
work. (gave up)

On my Eeepc 701 which has an external 19' lcd and a fullsized usb
keyboard attached, xorg wouldn't work.Vesa worked but the resolution
wouldn't go higher than the maximum for the builtin screen which isn't
so good on the external 19" lcd.Problem with keyboard arrow keys on
this on too.

I tried adding the kernel source sfs file (which I tracked down on
your blog) and installing that and then downloading the proprietory
(sp?) drivers and exiting to the prompt (ati x1600 on the hp and
nvidia 8600 gt on the core 2 quad) and running the file but it got
errors in both cases and it's beyond me how to correct that.

After several hours of trying this kernel and failing in one way or
another,I think 2.6.30.5 is the one for me Smile
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tronkel


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Location: Vienna Austria

PostPosted: Tue 07 Sep 2010, 14:44    Post_subject:  

Just been playing with Vala/Glade in Wary 5 with the 2.6.30 kernel.

Seems to be working well as far as I can tell from a test build.

Since Vala compiling as well as the Valaide IDE seem to be broken in Lucid 5.1.1 at the moment, a temporary work-around is to use Wary 5 to do the compiling for 5.1.1. The Vala executables work OK in 5.1.1.

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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
Posts: 5797
Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Tue 07 Sep 2010, 16:54    Post_subject:  

Manual frugal install of Wary 070 (2.6.34.1) on my main Linux box.Display and internet working on initial boot.....had Alsa wizard to get sound working. settings have been retained through several reboots.
Working fine.

VIDEO REPORT: Wary Puppy, version 070

Chip description:
oem: S3 Graphics ProSavage DDR Family BIOS
product: VBE 3.0 Rev 0.0

Driver used by Xorg:
savage

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
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-Computer
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1002MB (134MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.07
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Tue 07 Sep 2010 03:53:46 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
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Billtoo


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Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Tue 07 Sep 2010, 19:23    Post_subject: Wary 0.7 mix-n-match feedback
Sub_title: 2.6.34.1 kernel
 

After seeing the message of James C. I had another go with my 2.6.34.1
live dvd on my acer desktop.
The first attached jpeg shows just after booting with pfix=ram and
having gone through xorg etc.
The second attached jpeg shows after rebooting and creating a save
file, nothing else, didn't load any sfs files etc.
Note the lower right hand corner in both pictures for network status
and the time of day.
Attempting to load network modules after the second boot didn't work,
it didn't see eth0 and no module that I tried would load.
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piratesmack


Joined: 16 Sep 2009
Posts: 100

PostPosted: Tue 07 Sep 2010, 23:31    Post_subject:  

Just noticed this on the Gparted site:
Quote:

WARNING: GParted 0.6.0 contains two serious bugs when copying or moving partitions. For more details see: Bug #623630, and Bug #623697.


Can you upgrade Gparted in the next release?
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chrismt


Joined: 21 Apr 2010
Posts: 255

PostPosted: Wed 08 Sep 2010, 04:49    Post_subject:  Firefox  

Too bad I cannot use Firefox in Wary

I installed the Firefox 3.6.4 beta from the Quirky Repo because I couldn't find another

After install, it gave me a list of depend.

File /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.4beta/plugin-container has these missing library files:
libdbus-1.so.3 libdbus-glib-1.so.2
File /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.4beta/plugins/libnullplugin.so has these missing library files:
libdbus-1.so.3 libdbus-glib-1.so.2
File /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.4beta/libxul.so has these missing library files:
libdbus-glib-1.so.2 libdbus-1.so.3
File /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.4beta/libxpcom.so has these missing library files:
libdbus-1.so.3 libdbus-glib-1.so.2
File /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.4beta/firefox-bin has these missing library files:
libdbus-1.so.3 libdbus-glib-1.so.2
File /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.4beta/components/libimgicon.so has these missing library files:
libdbus-1.so.3 libdbus-glib-1.so.2
File /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.4beta/components/libdbusservice.so has these missing library files:
libdbus-glib-1.so.2 libdbus-1.so.3 libdbus-1.so.3 libdbus-glib-1.so.2
File /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.4beta/components/libnkgnomevfs.so has these missing library files:
libgnomevfs-2.so.0 libgconf-2.so.4 libORBit-2.so.0 libdbus-1.so.3 libdbus-glib-1.so.2
File /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.4beta/components/libbrowserdirprovider.so has these missing library files:
libdbus-1.so.3 libdbus-glib-1.so.2
File /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.4beta/components/libmozgnome.so has these missing library files:
libgconf-2.so.4 libORBit-2.so.0 libgnomevfs-2.so.0 libnotify.so.1 libdbus-glib-1.so.2 libdbus-1.so.3 libdbus-1.so.3 libdbus-glib-1.so.2
File /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.4beta/components/libbrowsercomps.so has these missing library files:
libdbus-1.so.3 libdbus-glib-1.so.2


Can someone help me with this?
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chrismt


Joined: 21 Apr 2010
Posts: 255

PostPosted: Wed 08 Sep 2010, 04:55    Post_subject:  

I found the rest libs

I need help with these

libgnomevfs-2.so.0

libgconf-2.so.4

libORBit-2.so.0

libnotify.so.1
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chrismt


Joined: 21 Apr 2010
Posts: 255

PostPosted: Wed 08 Sep 2010, 05:58    Post_subject:  

I fixed the problem

I installed Firefox 3.6.3 Pet from the Puppy 5.1 directory and it is now working

But I have some graphics problem

http://www.tribalwars.net is not displayed properly

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gjuhasz


Joined: 29 Sep 2008
Posts: 158

PostPosted: Wed 08 Sep 2010, 08:30    Post_subject: Wary-070 specific issues  

Barry,

1. I have non-US keyboard that cannot be well configured in Wary-70. Keymap is bad, cursor moving keys do not work. It's the same as in Wary-60 (both with Xvesa in VirtualBox). Using -kb option (see http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01764) does not help too much.
Note that I can use Slackpup with vesa driver and all 4.x puppies with vmware driver in VirtualBox.

2. In general, Wary-70 is the fastest Puppy I ever tested on my PII 400 Mhz, 256 MB machine, Neomagic chipset, frugal install. I don't see performance differences if I install Wary with different Linux versions. Excellent! Thanks again.

3. Beyond the above, there are a few mentionable video problems I see (only in case of Wary)

a) Mesa gives high boost (try glxdemo) but it does not add glx to vesa driver. In contrast, vesa works with Xorg_High in Lupu. It is interesting that glxgears (mesa) does not rotate the gears at the default size of the window. If resized, the smaller is the glxgears window, the quicker is the rotation. In LKupu, in contrast, Xorg_High rotates them with constant rpm regardless of the window size. Framerate is three times higher at mesa - run glxdemo to show the significant difference.

b) Some software do not like each other (only in Wary). Pwidgets blocks Skype and geany, for example.

c) Mplayer video settings cannot be saved thru the UI to show some TV streams, such as NBC in Wary-070. No such problem in Slackpup or in Wary-060. Mplayer-post-1.0rc3-svn-31792-i486.pet is very nice, fast and is well configurable also in Wary-070, however.

So, I would appreciate if the next Wary could come out with fixed Xvesa; fixed Abiword; the latest Mplayer included in the sfs; vmware driver added and vesa driver fixed to support virtualization. Maybe Wary Puppy could also be dare enough Laughing to bite the latest nightly build of Seamonkey...

chrismt wrote:
I fixed the problem

I installed Firefox 3.6.3 Pet from the Puppy 5.1 directory and it is now working

But I have some graphics problem

http://www.tribalwars.net is not displayed properly

Regards


chrismt,

I assume you use Xvesa. I see the FF rendering problem in Wary-070 but FF rendering is OK in Wary-060 (both with Xvesa). However, Seamonkey 2.0.6 renders well in Wary-070.

I checked with the last nightly build of Firefox. It renders poorly, too.
(I added the attached libs to /usr/lib then created the symlinks there as shown in the picture)
Anyway, why to try a beta while there is an alpha available? Wink
Download Seamonkey 2.1a3 and masquerade it (edit line 66 of prefs.js) to identify itself as Firefox...

Edit, Sep 08: Mozilla made a static Seamonkey 2.1b1pre available today. I edit this post from this beta installed in Wary-070.
It is masqueraded to Firefox by default Laughing
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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
Posts: 5797
Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Wed 08 Sep 2010, 15:30    Post_subject:  

Wary 070 (2.6.27.47) live, working but a bit slow.


VIDEO REPORT: Wary Puppy, version 070

Chip description:
Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 530/620 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter

Driver used by Xorg:
sis

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 16 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
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-Computer-
Processor : M II 2.5x Core/Bus Clock
Memory : 121MB (64MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.07
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Wed 08 Sep 2010 02:27:29 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation



-Processor-
Name : M II 2.5x Core/Bus Clock
Family, model, stepping : 6, 2, 4 (VIA Cyrix III (M2 core))
Vendor : CyrixInstead
-Configuration-
Cache Size : 0kb
Frequency : 250.07MHz
BogoMIPS : 500.13
Byte Order : Little Endian
-Features-
FDIV Bug : no
HLT Bug : no
F00F Bug : no
Coma Bug : no
Has FPU : yes
-Cache-
Cache information not available
-Capabilities-
fpu : Floating Point Unit
de : Debug Extensions - I/O breakpoints
tsc : Time Stamp Counter and RDTSC instruction
msr : Model Specific Registers
cx8 : CMPXCHG8 instruction
pge : Page Global Enable
cmov : Conditional Move instruction
mmx : MMX technology
cyrix_arr : Cyrix ARRs (= MTRRs)

Name : M II 2.5x Core/Bus Clock
Family, model, stepping : 6, 2, 4 (VIA Cyrix III (M2 core))
Vendor : CyrixInstead
-Configuration-
Cache Size : 0kb
Frequency : 250.07MHz
BogoMIPS : 500.13
Byte Order : Little Endian
-Features-
FDIV Bug : no
HLT Bug : no
F00F Bug : no
Coma Bug : no
Has FPU : yes
-Cache-
Cache information not available
-Capabilities-
fpu : Floating Point Unit
de : Debug Extensions - I/O breakpoints
tsc : Time Stamp Counter and RDTSC instruction
msr : Model Specific Registers
cx8 : CMPXCHG8 instruction
pge : Page Global Enable
cmov : Conditional Move instruction
mmx : MMX technology
cyrix_arr : Cyrix ARRs (= MTRRs)
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gjuhasz


Joined: 29 Sep 2008
Posts: 158

PostPosted: Thu 09 Sep 2010, 05:26    Post_subject:  

James C wrote:
Wary 070 (2.6.27.47) live, working but a bit slow.


James C,

If you run a live CD in such a low-resource environment, it will be very slow because the sfs file is loaded in the RAM.

To see the real power of Wary at your machine, do a frugal install. Then reboot again to fine tune the filesystem. After that, it will run much faster.
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BarryK
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Location: Perth, Western Australia

PostPosted: Thu 09 Sep 2010, 08:15    Post_subject:  

peebee reported that an Agere HDA analog modem worked in Wary 0.6 but not in 0.7. I posted a PET to try and fix it, but that did not do it. See previous page in this thread.

You still need that PET, but rerwin has been communicating with peebee and has figured out what is wrong. Thanks for getting that sorted out rerwin!

In addition to the PET I posted, you will need this extra PET that rerwin has provided:
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JonT

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Location: northeast Tennessee, USA

PostPosted: Thu 09 Sep 2010, 09:43    Post_subject:  

BarryK asked for feedback on video quality and I wanted to contribute. I also wanted to learn about a problem I mentioned previously on this thread; the "intel" driver often gives a black screen upon starting or restarting X on my Dell Inspiron 1100/Intel 845GL graphics chipset. The visible screen can often be recovered by multiple applications of ctrl-alt-backspace + "xwin" + wait a few seconds, until letters appear on-screen.

I compared all the current wary 0.7's, except the 26.6.30.5UPDATED one, and Puppy 4.3.1, at 1024x768x24 using frugal installs by copying the files to folders. No save files were used. As washed-out colors had been mentioned in http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=00888, I viewed scenes from a DVD. I also downloaded http://digitaldog.net/files/Printer_Test_file.jpg.zip (appropriate web site, I thought) and viewed the jpeg. I did multiple X restarts each wary/driver combo for problem testing.

The "intel" and "i810" drivers are the choices for my chipset. For Puppy 4.3.1, i810OLD_drv.so was renamed i180_drv.so in /usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/drivers. 4.3.1 would not work with the intel driver at all.

Realizing that others may be more discerning, I saw no difference among all version using "i810" on DVD playback. Neither hue nor saturation is adjustable.

I saw no differences among the Wary's on DVD playback using "intel". Hue was not adjustable but saturation was, making "intel" the preferred driver for this application.

I saw no differences on viewing the jpeg under any combination of OS and driver.

All behaved the same with regard to the X restart problem. The i810 driver always worked. The intel driver (Wary's only) often, not always, caused black screens on (re)starting X. Xvesa worked well; vesa never worked.

I was glad to see that I could customize the touchpad parameters with synclient or flsynclient in the Wary's or in xorg.conf in Puppy 4.3.1.

Apparently, few have the Intel 845 chipset and my results likely are not relevant to other Intel chipsets. I'm thinking it is easier to wait for this computer to wear out than understand the reasons for the X problems.
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BarryK
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Sep 2010, 18:55    Post_subject:  

tronkel wrote:
Just been playing with Vala/Glade in Wary 5 with the 2.6.30 kernel.

Seems to be working well as far as I can tell from a test build.

Since Vala compiling as well as the Valaide IDE seem to be broken in Lucid 5.1.1 at the moment, a temporary work-around is to use Wary 5 to do the compiling for 5.1.1. The Vala executables work OK in 5.1.1.


Note that the next Wary (080) will have upgraded Vala, version 0.9.8, as well as libgee 0.5.2. Hopefully your apps will still compile!

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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Thu 09 Sep 2010, 20:40    Post_subject: Wary 0.7 mix-n-match feedback
Sub_title: laptop
 

I did a frugal install of wary 070 with the 2.6.34.1 kernel on my
emachines d620 laptop.
Computer
Processor AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 2650e
Memory 1813MB (90MB used)
Operating System Puppy Linux 0.07
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Thu 09 Sep 2010 08:03:39 PM EDT
Display
Resolution 1280x800 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Unknown
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Multimedia
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB
Input Devices
AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad
Logitech USB Optical Mouse
Power Button
Lid Switch
Sleep Button
Power Button
Video Bus
PC Speaker
Crystal Eye webcam
Printers (CUPS)
CUPS-PDF Default
SCSI Disks
ATA ST9160310AS
Optiarc DVD RW AD-7590S
SONY DVD RW DRU-820A
Operating System
Version
Kernel Linux 2.6.34.1 (i686)
Compiled #1 SMP Fri Jul 16 19:16:08 GMT-8 2010
C Library GNU C Library version 2.10.1 (stable)
Default C Compiler Unknown
Distribution Puppy Linux 0.07
Current Session
Computer Name puppypc
User Name root (root)
Home Directory /root
Desktop Environment Unknown (Window Manager: JWM)
VGA compatible controller ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]
Ethernet controller Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8040 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller
Network controller Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g

I've been testing it for a short time but my d620 seems to like this
kernel.
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