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01micko


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PostPosted: Fri 20 Aug 2010, 17:41    Post_subject: Re: 'Missing Dependencies' in Lucid Puppy after full install
Sub_title: verification of other reports
 

dragon-the-cat wrote:

I'm sorry, but I've had the same experience after the installation of the official release of Lucid Puppy 5.1 on my hd.
After the installation-process has done (no .pets etc.) a message was shown with missing dependencies and the hint to write them on a sheet of paper to check it out later.
Don't laugh, but I have really done this: Arrow
Code:
PKG-Type: Missing Dependencies
GTK: gtk +12, gdkxft, gdk_pixbuf10, glib 12
Tcl/TK: tk, tcl, tix, uri, tktable, tablelist, tile, trf, combobox, gnocl, img
Qt: qt
xlib: imlib, libxaw95_DEP4
Multimedia: speex, libosip2, cdrdao, sox
Misc: libidn, figzdev, pstoedit, mtools

As a resume I have to say, that Lucid Puppy is a really great release with impressing functionality, small size, speed and a well and hard working development team. I think, this famous work is not a result of a 'crusade' against bug-reporters - we can only give hints and report our experience with this release - or not, Micko? Wink

No offense, I really like Puppy Linux. That's the reason, why I take the time to write this - now: GREETZ @all
So long - Cool
* dragon-the-cat *


Ahem...

Slight misunderstanding with the quote.. however, if you had been through this thread you'd have found it's a known bug and the dependencies are not needed. You'd have not needed to take the time to write if you had have read. (Same can be said for me too I guess, but what I said in bold still stands).

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piratesmack


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PostPosted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 03:28    Post_subject:  

Hmm... still no reply.
I'll post one more time just in case it was missed.

In Puppy 5.1, the hwclock is being interpreted as localtime even when you set the hwclock type to utc:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=443415#443415
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01micko


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PostPosted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 03:38    Post_subject:  

piratesmack wrote:
In Puppy 5.1, the hwclock is being interpreted as localtime even when you set the hwclock type to utc:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=443415#443415


Duly noted and you are not the only one to report this issue Wink

Thanks

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PostPosted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 03:42    Post_subject:  

01micko wrote:
piratesmack wrote:
In Puppy 5.1, the hwclock is being interpreted as localtime even when you set the hwclock type to utc:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=443415#443415


Duly noted and you are not the only one to report this issue Wink

Thanks

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Oh my bad. I didn't realize this was already reported

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kevin bowers

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PostPosted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 09:08    Post_subject: Printer sharing  

rcrsn51, 01micko,

Booted my desktop to Quirky 1.2. Network and CUPS working fine although the ATI video doesn't agree with the Radeon driver. My little netbook running 5.1 still will not automatically find the shared printer.

All else seems well with the machines, Luci seems stable and happy in both boxes. I had a terrible time getting the wireless up with this last install but sheer stubborn cussed perseverance seems to have done it, it's now stable and persistent.

Can't say it enough: thanks again for the Herculean effort!
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kevin bowers

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PostPosted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 12:47    Post_subject: Printer sharing  

OOPS!

Apologies, guys, I forgot to set the host to share its printers!

Once I did that I have the automatic printer location and sharing between the Quirky host (CUPS 1.3.11) and the Luci netbook (5.1, CUPS 1.4.3).

A man my age should know better than to test computer configurations late at night, especially when he's not feeling well.
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rcrsn51


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PostPosted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 12:53    Post_subject:  

But it still doesn't work when Lupu and CUPS 1.4.3 is the server?
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8-bit


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PostPosted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 13:23    Post_subject: Re: Printer sharing  

[quote="kevin bowers"]rcrsn51, 01micko,

Booted my desktop to Quirky 1.2. Network and CUPS working fine although the ATI video doesn't agree with the Radeon driver. My little netbook running 5.1 still will not automatically find the shared printer.

/quote]

Did you set up the firewall when you installed Puppy on both PCs?
It will interfere with printer sharing.
Also, make sure you have the "Share this printer box checked as will as network sharing of the printer.
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edoc


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PostPosted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 14:12    Post_subject:  

The Firewall setup appears in two places but neither offers an uninstall option.

Puppy Package Manager does not appear to recognize the Firewall and therefore does not offer an option to uninstall.

Perhaps this should be added to both of the pop-up menus for Firewall (in Setup and Internet) as well as Puppy Package Manager?

Or is the best way to uninstall to use the "Builtin Package Remover" -- which is reportedly in Menu-Utility of Quirky 1.2?

If so, is there a PET to add "Builtin Package Remover" to Lucid 5.1, please?

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PostPosted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 14:45    Post_subject:  

You don't need to uninstall the firewall program - you just want to disable it. One method is to open the file /etc/rc.d/rc.local and comment out the lines that start the firewall.
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gortonc

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PostPosted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 14:49    Post_subject: Removing programs  

edoc,

"If so, is there a PET to add "Builtin Package Remover" to Lucid 5.1, please?"

Remove-buildins-1.1 for quirky, seems to work fine for me in 5.1. I have not yet tried to remaster as I am still tweaking my system. Will report on remaster as soon as I try it. Good luck

Chris
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kevin bowers

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PostPosted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 15:37    Post_subject: Printer sharing  

No, same host computer booted to 5.1 will not allow automatic printer finding and sharing. Nobody has a firewall going including the router. All settings seem to be in order unless there's one I missed, as far as I know I need to set the server to share printers and the printer itself to be shared. The manual installation seems to work just fine although I haven't tried printing from Open Office just yet. It was a pain to set up, though, I can't imagine a newbie handling it, it was a stretch of my abilities and I've been using Linux in one form or another for 10 years. I must say it's much more user-friendly now, largely of course due to the efforts of Barry Kauler and the Puppy people.
I wonder if we can find some common thing that differentiates those systems that will automatically share printers Luci51 to Luci51 and those that won't? My host is a 5-year-old Dell P4, Ralink wireless LAN, and my remote is a new Toshiba Celeron-base with Realtek 8187SE with NDISwrapper driver. Could that be the problem? The Linux driver immediately freezes this system on first access. Router is a Belkin G wireless.
The other major question is "is it worth the trouble?" How many other people are having this problem? If I'm the only one I have it solved for myself. If someone else has similar trouble, pipe up--the squeaky wheel gets the grease!
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PostPosted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 15:47    Post_subject:  

If you discover that it is something unique to your system you could get a Netgear 3500L wireless router -- it will allow you to network a printer or a HDD and it is open source friendly.
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PostPosted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 15:58    Post_subject: Re: Printer sharing  

kevin bowers wrote:
I wonder if we can find some common thing that differentiates those systems that will automatically share printers Luci51 to Luci51 and those that won't?

Probably not.

But if you want to beat this episode to death, there is one more thing you can try. Install CUPS 1.3.11 in Lupu over top of its CUPS 1.4.3 as described here. That would determine if the problem is CUPS-related or Puppy-related.

As usual, you would need to do this off the Lupu Live CD using the "puppy pfix=ram" option so as not to damage your current install.

FWIW, this whole exercise serves to reinforce my personal prejudice against CUPS 1.4.
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PostPosted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 16:55    Post_subject:  

I just looked here and did not find it:
ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/quirky/pet_packages-quirky/

You are saying that when I do locate it I may load the PET and then run the remove-builtins app and that removing abiword will be complete and not harm my Lucid 5.1 Frugal install at all?

Other than maybe some default word processor link may be broken and I will need to change it to OpenOffice or Geany.

Or am I missing a step ... you referred to remastering ... is remove-builtins just one step to alter the distro and then one has to remaster *before* one is able to resume using Lucid 5.1 (or Quirky)?

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