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[noryb009]

This looks great! I'm just wondering, if you don't add anything to the ISO (no X), would it:

1) run things made in C++ ONLY using the STL?
2) have less overhead then the normal Puppy Linux? (If so, how much (about?))

[technosaurus]

[goingnuts]

I have not had any success starting/killing Xorg and have a new xorg.conf afterwards - still hanging in a black screen in qemu or having no xorg.conf.
Xorg -probeonly generates a log in /var/log/xorg.0.log which might be worth digging into - might also have info concerning GL, GLU and dri...

[technosaurus]

"Xorg checks the settings of HorizSync and VertRefresh in the Monitor section to compute valid resolutions" - do not change these willy nilly, better to use sed on the xorg.conf or use xrandr to change it once the server is running (I compiled Xdialog against gtk1 too)

to make jwm start rox add this to your .jwmrc template or .jwmrc-tray

<StartupCommand>rox -p /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin</StartupCommand>

(of course that could all be put in a script with some other commands - with a lot of the stuff that is in .xinitrc)

The startup script should check for a file with the resolution first and use the HEIGHT & WIDTH parameters from it if it exists - otherwise create it with Xvesa -listmodes (as in my previous post)

I have had success with Xvesa, but noted some scripts that will need to be combined into the startup.

background_reshape
fixPuppyPin
clean_desk_icons
probably more? see /root/.xinitrc

what would be even better is if it could load the pup*.sfs file (and other non-essentials) in this jwm startup script rather than during boot (ultra fast boot) ... so far I don't know of a distro that uses unionfs to layer a squashfs file to the initrd though - Barry uses switchroot(or pivotroot) and tinycore uses symlinks similar to choicepup.

[goingnuts]

Small CLI script to set jwm background. Include this code in /root/.jwmrc:

[technosaurus]

If you want some Xdialog alternatives for your script

I have attached my gtk1 version that only uses about 4mb of ram (vs 14mb for the gtk2 version)

[technosaurus]

I found amigo's patched rox-filer and reworked some of the mime types and icons, (the icons could easily be cut down to make the package much smaller if you want)

[technosaurus]

I like to make little kiosk style puplets for kids but always find ways to make things more kid-proof. My latest one is this script named:
/usr/bin/kidstart

[noryb009]

How do you mount partitions in this?

[technosaurus]

http://www.busybox.net/downloads/BusyBox.html
See the mount part of the busybox command help. If you have extra time you can use xdialog to make a simple GUI.

[goingnuts]

Adopting some of your ideas, technosaurus, using jwm to do more of the work:

Attached example of generating jwmrc during start of X - just include this in xwin:

[goingnuts]

New builds uploaded - probably the last "Desktop"-version I will do of pUPnGO.
Some of the content is inspired by BasicLinux ex. the use of links as file browser/launcher. Using kmap´s as only kbd source have also reduced size.

The kernel is still slight modified with support for fb and ipv6. I would have liked to test a move of all needed drivers present in initrd.gz into the kernel to make kernel-up-or-downgrade less complicated - but I have no time for this...

This version contains hacks of initrd.gz: Full dynamic BusyBox and most of the ntfs stuff moved to initrd - copied at boot time to tmpfs before switch-root. This gives a lot more programs to run if you stay in initrd.gz and also reduce the total iso size (by re-use stuff needed in initrd.gz in main-sfs).

The main sfs-file contains Xvesa, jwm, xli (as image viewer), links text browser, alsa, grub, conky system-monitor and other small apps.(e3-text-editor, calender, pkg-install/remove, sfs-resize, sfsmanager, floppy-format a.o.).
All hd drives is auto-mounted when X/jwm starts and desktop icons created.
Most of the set-up wizards also works in plain CLI-mode, but dialog is included already (builds run wizards in CLI mode - delete /etc/use_dialog do get the dialog GUI).
I have removed all save-to-CD stuff from main sfs as I do not use that facility but it can be added as a pet as initrd.gz should recognize saved sessions on CD. And you will probably not find everything needed to use wireless....

Two versions to choose between:
One with all drivers for qemu only in zdrv:
initrd.gz 1,932K
zdrv_412.sfs 1,640K
pup_412pUPnGO.sfs 3,060K
Total ISO size: 8,516K

And one with full drivers in zdrv for use on all hardware (use zdrv-ctr to reduce at save)
initrd.gz 1,932K
zdrv_412.sfs 20,904K
pup_412pUPnGO.sfs 3,060K
Total ISO size: 27,772K

The difference in zdrv-size above reflects the power of zdrvctr...
Probably still some bugs and room for improvements...

[technosaurus]

looks pretty good - I like the idea of having separate trays as includes so that you don't have to grok the heck out of sed to edit it in place.

I wrote a gtkdialog script that will generate a menu for all apps with .desktop files (in /usr/share/applications) that could also be adapted to autohiding jwm trays for each category (instead of notetabs)
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?mode=attach&id=31615 ... if anyone is interested, I can try to throw something together

File browser - I was using gtk1-xdialog's --fselect option and modified parts of the /usr/local/bin/defaulthandler script to auto open file types with the appropriate app.

Further jwm discussion...
Maybe we could set up separate includes for each jwm configuration category (instead of traditional .jwmpersonal etc...) like it is setup in the config manual -
http://joewing.net/programs/jwm/config.shtml

For example:

Root Menu
Trays (9 screen locations TL, TC, TR, LC, C, RC, BL, BC, BR)
"Icons" (floating trays with an x,y position)
Clock Style
Tray Style
Task List Style
Pager Style
Group Settings
Window Style
Menu Style
Popup Style
Fonts
Colors
Key Bindings
Mouse Bindings
Desktops

[technosaurus]

here is my file browser using the gtk1 version of xdialog

[technosaurus]

OK, I finally figured out how to start up jwm without using rxvt - just use:
jwm -display :0

Here are the commands I use
to start jwm in Xvesa minimum resolution that supports 16 bpp true color and exit to prompt