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Kdenlive 0.7.8 (rev. 4559) and KDE 4.4.4 SFS
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battleshooter


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PostPosted: Tue 06 Jul 2010, 17:40    Post subject:  Kdenlive 0.7.8 (rev. 4559) and KDE 4.4.4 SFS
Subject description: Video Editor For Quirky
 

KDE4 for Lupu 528 now available here

SFS Download

md5sum: 59d0f036d307567718c9003139bdfb23

Download link for Quirky 1.20:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/quirky/quirky-1.2/

This is in a way, a standalone Kdenlive package for Quirky. But at the same time, it's not a cut down KDE libs deal. It has a working KDE desktop, with basic applications like Dolphin, Konqurer, and Konsole.

Headers are all included so add the Quirky devx file and you're already to compile KDE apps or more modules. I've already done KDE_Multimedia if anyone's interested in that I'll upload it.

Pet packages coming along soon. But it might be a better deal for me to tar it, but either way, I'll try and make something available for full installations.

If you want to have a shot at the KDE desktop, just exit to prompt and type (make sure KDE is in capital) :

Code:
startx KDE


For the uninitiated:
Kdenlive is a free open-source video editor for GNU/Linux and FreeBSD, which supports DV, AVCHD (experimental support) and HDV editing. Kdenlive relies on several other open source projects, such as FFmpeg and MLT video framework. It is an intuitive and powerful multi-track video editor. An old screen shot, but it still basically looks the same, but there are more themes:



Known Issues:

Shutdown from KDE desktop menu doesn't work due to bypassing KDM
Most of Puppy's menu entries in the KDE menu are in "Lost and Found" due to different format issues
Konqueror sometimes can be unstable and the font can look awful
Starting Kdenlive from the menu gives an error, but continues fine. Calling Kdenlive from command line or directly clicking on the bin doesn't generate the error. Must be something with the .desktop file.

Anyway, enjoy! Next project? Probably Rosegarden...

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PostPosted: Tue 06 Jul 2010, 17:42    Post subject:  

For those who like to know what's in that big SFS:

KDE deps:
KDE_Support
KDE_Libs
KDE_Pmlibs
KDE_Base
boost-1.43.0
clucene-0.9.21b
cyrus-sasl-2.1.23
eet-1.3.0
eigen2
eina (enlightenment eina, not the media player!)
getfem-4.0.0
gpgme-1.3.0
libassuan-2.0.0
libgpg-error-1.8
libical-0.44
libiodbc-3.52.7
libssh-0.11
ontologies
PyQt-x11-gpl-4.7.3
qca-2.0.2
qca-cyrus-sasl-2.0.0-beta3
qca-gnupg-2.0.0-beta3
qedje
qt-4.6.3
qzion
raptor-1.4.21
rasqal-0.9.19
redland-1.0.8
shared-mime-info-0.71
sip-4.10.2
virtuoso-opensource-6.1.1

Kdenlive deps:
kdenlive-0.77.1
dvgrab-3.5
frei0r-plugins-1.1.22
jack-audio-connection-kit-0.118.0
jpeg-7
ladspa-sdk
libavc1394-0.5.3
libdv-1.0.0
libiconv-1.13.1
libiec61883-1.0.0
libpng-1.2.41
libquicktime-1.1.3
libsamplerate-0.1.7
madplay-0.15.2b
mlt-0.5.6
SDL
sox-14.3.0

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PostPosted: Sat 07 Aug 2010, 15:47    Post subject:  

separated the audio from an mp4 and then exported the audio into a wav file in minutes after first use which is something i couldn't figure out how to do in openshot.
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PostPosted: Sat 07 Aug 2010, 19:56    Post subject:  

Awesome, glad to hear it was useful for you Aarf, as a point of curiosity, were you using Quirky? I thought you used Lupu? Thanks for the feedback!

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PostPosted: Sat 07 Aug 2010, 21:39    Post subject: Thank you  

Hi battleshooter,
Thank you for building this for Quirky. It must have taken quite a bit of time getting everything compiled and working. I hope you don't mind, I pruned out the Qt and KDE components to make an alternate SFS for the latest Lighthouse with KDE, and am starting to learn how to use Kdenlive.

I noticed the latest source at Kdenlive web site is v. 0.7.7.1, yet Help | About displays 0.7.8 rev. 4559--even better! Anyway it is working great so far.
Thanks again,
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PostPosted: Sat 07 Aug 2010, 21:54    Post subject:  

battleshooter wrote:
Awesome, glad to hear it was useful for you Aarf, as a point of curiosity, were you using Quirky? I thought you used Lupu? Thanks for the feedback!

Battleshooter

i normally use puppeee but puppeee bootmanager doesnt see the kdenlive.sfs so I used quirky 120 as recommended.

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Aug 2010, 01:04    Post subject:  

Hi Tazoc,

Of course I don't mind Smile It's an honor to be of service Wink

Actually, I noticed your SFS is 94MB, that's pretty big without KDE and QT, did you add anything to it? I added up the size of Kdenlive without KDE on my computer and it ended up being only around 19MB (In pet form). Of course it's a high possibility I forgot to include something in my add up, but 94MB, wow that sounds big, even last time when I did Kdenlive for LHP it came up to 69MB, including FFMPEG and not stripped.

I'll see about posting an SFS of the Kdenlive pets mentioned or I'll just upload them and let you have a look yourself, it'll save you the trouble of trying to figure out what to prune, 94MB seems way overkill, just trying to save people's bandwidth Smile.

Quote:

I noticed the latest source at Kdenlive web site is v. 0.7.7.1, yet Help | About displays 0.7.8 rev. 4559--even better!


Ah yes, that would probably be because I compiled it from SVN. I should probably update the main post title... thanks Smile

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Aug 2010, 01:09    Post subject:  

aarf wrote:

i normally use puppeee but puppeee bootmanager doesnt see the kdenlive.sfs so I used quirky 120 as recommended.


Ah ok, I got mixed up with the Ubuntu Studio thread thinking that was Lupu and a few other confusing things which led me to make a peculiar assumption Embarassed . Anyway... thanks for that Smile

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Aug 2010, 05:26    Post subject:  

battleshooter wrote:
aarf wrote:

i normally use puppeee but puppeee bootmanager doesnt see the kdenlive.sfs so I used quirky 120 as recommended.


Ah ok, I got mixed up with the Ubuntu Studio thread thinking that was Lupu and a few other confusing things which led me to make a peculiar assumption Embarassed . Anyway... thanks for that Smile

Battleshooter

oh you mean for openshot. yes i use both lupu500 with openshot pets added, and ubuntu studio which is lupu501 based. mostly openshot in the first lupu500. havent tested latest ubuntustudio PE 2,1 yet

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Aug 2010, 14:50    Post subject:  

battleshooter wrote:
94MB, wow that sounds big, even last time when I did Kdenlive for LHP it came up to 69MB, including FFMPEG and not stripped.
Hi Battleshooter,
I don't recall if I added anything but 94M for Kdenlive is OK with me. I left in virtuoso, boost and everything in /usr/include, just in case it is desired for compiling. Next time I'll try to make a separate Kdenlive dev pack. With KDE 4.4 I've found that removing packages often breaks something I want to have. But strip --strip-unneeded is a good idea I think. I'm working on a couple of scripts (one for binaries and one for libs) that scan recursively for anything unstripped and strips those only.

My last KDE4 add-on has a truckload of software and dependencies at 443M! Yes it does use bandwidth but KDE is optional in LHP, and for me at least my Site5 hosting account covers it so far. In fact Site5.com now offers unlimited B/W and storage for only $4.95/mo (24mos.) And fortunately big hard drives are cheap nowadays. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri 13 Aug 2010, 13:03    Post subject:  

renamed to kdenlive.sfs and puppeee bootmanager then saw it.
got to gui with some red missing things (ffmpeg? and drecorder)
dragged a few mp4 which were all invalid as was a wav. (image attached)
terminal output text attached
PS you need to edit the post title one more time Smile
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kdentxt.txt.gz
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PostPosted: Fri 13 Aug 2010, 23:53    Post subject:  

Quote:
got to gui with some red missing things (ffmpeg? and drecorder)
dragged a few mp4 which were all invalid as was a wav. (image attached)


Ah yes. I know what the problem is. (Or at least I have a very strong suspicion).

Typing

Code:
ffmpeg


into a terminal, what do you get?

I suspect ffmpeg has been messed up, maybe by different versions, causing it to not start up. As ffmpeg is what Kdenlive uses to access media, if it stuffs up, Kdenlive will give your error. I'll try and download Puppeee and see if I can pin point the problem. The SFS isn't really designed for other Puppy versions, but the fact it starts up probably indicates it'll run fine after ffmpeg has been fixed up.

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PostPosted: Sat 14 Aug 2010, 08:54    Post subject:  

puppeee1 without kdenlive sfs loaded, and with kdenlive loaded and running essentially the same output:
Code:

# ffmpeg
FFmpeg version SVN-rUNKNOWN, Copyright (c) 2000-2007 Fabrice Bellard, et al.
  configuration: --arch=i486 --enable-libmp3lame --enable-liba52 --enable-libfaac --enable-libfaad --enable-pthreads --enable-small --enable-libogg --enable-libvorbis --enable-gpl --enable-shared --enable-pp --disable-debug --prefix=/usr
  libavutil version: 49.5.0
  libavcodec version: 51.44.0
  libavformat version: 51.14.0
  built on Jul 12 2009 11:29:41, gcc: 4.2.2

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PostPosted: Sat 14 Aug 2010, 16:11    Post subject:  

Ok, thanks Aarf.

I won't be able to answer you today, but sometime soon I'll download Puppeee and have a look at the ffmpeg, I think it'll just require some sym linking.

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PostPosted: Sun 15 Aug 2010, 02:58    Post subject:  

Actually, looks like I've been able to find time.

This is Quirky's FFMPEG with all dependencies included. With the pet installed, Kdenlive runs fine, which is awesome, another platform option available. Smile

Let me know, if goes, but I'm pretty sure it will.

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