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PostPosted: Fri 30 Jul 2010, 10:16    Post subject:  

Is there any reason to prefer this source:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/fatdog/

Or this one:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/fatdog/pets/500/

for Fatdog64-500 apps?

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PostPosted: Fri 30 Jul 2010, 13:33    Post subject:  

panzerpuppy,

Sorry, I don't really have time to make a package for Quirky. Not really sure when I'll get around to making a new package for Fatdog.

fatdog64kudos,

I wonder if there's a bug/limitation in the init script that causes the size of the tmpfs to be sized wrong when the sfs file is that big.


Edoc,

All the pet packages will be found here:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/fatdog/pets/500/

The root of the web site is here:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/fatdog/

and these are the folders:

broken --- A place for me and James to place experiments.
info -- Right now not much there.
iso --- This is where the iso files are located.
pets --- pet packages
sfs --- Sfs files are here
source --- The source files used to build fatdog
t2-build --- The T2 build environment used to build the base packages.
t2-packs --- All of the binary tar balls produced by T2.
web --- Web site page.
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PostPosted: Fri 30 Jul 2010, 13:43    Post subject:  

Awesome, thanks!

I have the Seamonkey PET for Fatdog64 and will load it.

Right now Firefox is chattering about something called Namoroki (sp?) and suggesting an update -- will Seamonkey also generate some noise when we load your version for Fatdog64?

Sure appreciate the hard work -- it is running well on the ASUS Aspire 5535 laptop (usually a problem-pc) and our son loves it!

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PostPosted: Fri 30 Jul 2010, 13:51    Post subject:  

REPORT: Seamonkey 2.0.6 loaded FAST!! and set up fine.

Thanks!

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PostPosted: Sat 31 Jul 2010, 00:46    Post subject:  

kirk,

I was wondering about the size issue as well, except that the sfs that includes devx that does not work from the CD does work if it resides on the HD, and is found by the CD boot during the boot process and read from the HD. I will try making the sfs created with 4 extra sfs's included larger in size to allow for further testing of the size issue question.
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PostPosted: Sat 31 Jul 2010, 00:55    Post subject: go-oo_32_amd64-3.sfs
Subject description: spell checker
 

I was wondering if only I am having a problem with the spell checker on this sfs and if not, how to make it work. Spell checking in oo has perennially been "dicy" in my experience. some installs work and some don't work it seems.
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PostPosted: Tue 03 Aug 2010, 01:07    Post subject:  

kirk,

I made another sfs/iso/CD without devx but with 8 additional sfs files included:
audio-all-in-one-amd64-7.sfs
fd64-32bit-libs.sfs
hugin-2010.0.0-amd64.sfs
jre160_amd64-3.sfs
skype_static-2.1.0.81.sfs
wine-1.2-rc5-i486-4.sfs
xcas-0.8.6-amd64.sfs
go-oo_32_amd64-3.sfs

Following your procedure a new sfs file of 560 MB was created and a new Fatdog64-500-extra.iso as well. burniso2cd was used to burn the iso and the system was rebooted using the new CD.

The same problem happened while booting the CD after the sfs was copied to RAM as detailed below.

BUT copying the new sfs file to a pen drive allowed the CD boot to boot successfully ( it found the sfs file on the pen drive and used it ) and all ran very well.

Also, booting via grub in the MBR of a pen drive with the sfs and other files copied to the pen drive booted nicely as well.

SO, as far as I can tell it is a size issue while booting solely from the CD. I was concerned that it might have been a devx associated problem, but now it seems not so.

ERRORS REPORTED:

Loading 'fd64-500.sfs' main file ... copying to ram done
Dumping last lines of /tmp/bootinit.log ...
mount: /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
writing '/mnt/tmpfs/fd64-500.sfs': No space left on device
mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on /pup_ro2 failed
mount: mounting unionfs on /pup_new failed

Dumping last lines of kernel log ...
<7> ISO 9660 Extensions: RRIP_1991A
<7> ISO 9660 Extensions: Microsoft Joliet Level 3
<7> ISO 9660 Extensions: RRID_1991A
<3> aufs test_add:226:mount[1743]: unsupported filesystem, /pup_ro2 (rootfs)
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PostPosted: Tue 03 Aug 2010, 05:48    Post subject: Thunderbirds aren't go  

Kirk - my captain!! Full ahead warp speed with this Enterprise!!

Only snag is I can't see a recent Thunderbird.pet Having a crack at making one but came unstuck with the absence of some libraries - wondering if someone who built firefox or seamonkey may have this dbus-glib-1

Quote:
checking for dbus-glib-1 >= 0.60... Package dbus-glib-1 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `dbus-glib-1.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'dbus-glib-1' found
configure: error: Library requirements (dbus-glib-1 >= 0.60) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
*** Fix above errors and then restart with "make -f client.mk build"
make[1]: *** [configure] Error 1


Appreciate any pointers from Mozilla gurus.
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PostPosted: Tue 03 Aug 2010, 09:11    Post subject:  

fatdog64kudos,

Quote:
writing '/mnt/tmpfs/fd64-500.sfs': No space left on device


That looks like the problem, I would guess the init script in the initrd.gz is miscalculating the size of the tmpfs when booting from CD. I think when you boot from CD it makes the tmpfs 1/2 of your total ram minus 50MB. Barry probably never envisioned a sfs file that big. If your up for it, you can hack on the init script. To extract the initrd.gz:

# gunzip initrd.gz
# mkdir puppy-init
# cd puppy-init
# cat ../initrd | cpio -d -i

To go the other way, that is, to create a initrd.gz file:

# cd puppy-init
# find . | cpio -o -H newc | gzip -9 > ../initrd.gz

You can search for -t tmpfs in the init, that will get you close to where you need to look. I have to say that when you make a sfs file that big and boot from CD, it will boot real slow. Don't think most people would care for that.

growler,

Yes, should have that one. I'll make a pet package in the next few days. The dbus dependency can be disabled with a configure option.
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PostPosted: Tue 03 Aug 2010, 11:51    Post subject:  

I can't get at Fatdog64 right now as that laptop is in use.

Is pvideo (or an equivalent) available already, or can it be added to Fatdog64?

I just tried it in spup 040 -- it's a real simple and handy tool to download video from YouTube and Yahoo and other places.

There are frequently times when I want to watch something that has been posted to YouTube but the place that I want to watch it has no Internet access or really poor Internet access.

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Aug 2010, 19:33    Post subject: FATDOG64 and LiveCD/DVD
Subject description: Booting FATDOG after extending it with additional SFSs
 

@fatdog64kudos and @kirk

I, too, have seen this problem with extending FATDOG64, then trying to boot it from a LiveDVD. I got to the same place that fatdog64kudos reached.

I am opening a NEW THREAD for this LiveDVD issue and will try to cover 2 LiveDVD approaches that I am aware of where we have already hit the same snags.

With your permission, Can we consolidate our efforts on this problem in this THREAD?
This, I believe, is a separate area which needs addressing and maybe some updates to the procedures to be used when a user uses LiveDVD to run a FATDOG64 system.

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PostPosted: Wed 04 Aug 2010, 02:56    Post subject: Multiple Simultaneous X Window Managers running on FATDOG64  

Anyone know how to get Multiple Simultaneous X Window Managers running on FATDOG64. There is a procedure for Puppy (32bit) at Multiple XWindowsBut, it appears steps are different for FATDOG64
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PostPosted: Wed 04 Aug 2010, 10:08    Post subject: Re: Multiple Simultaneous X Window Managers running on FATDOG64  

gcmartin wrote:
Anyone know how to get Multiple Simultaneous X Window Managers running on FATDOG64. There is a procedure for Puppy (32bit) at Multiple XWindowsBut, it appears steps are different for FATDOG64

Try
Code:
xinit -- /usr/bin/X :1

Works for me, and the second X server is running in vt4 (Ctrl-Alt-F4). The original ones lives in vt7 (Ctrl-Alt-F7).

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PostPosted: Fri 06 Aug 2010, 10:11    Post subject:
Subject description: Compile dpg4x for Fatdog64?
 

Does dpg4x need to be compiled for Fatdog64 or may it be run as-is?

Quote:
DPG for X (dpg4x) is a program that allows the easy creation of DPG video files on Linux. It may work on other POSIX like OS as well. DPG is a special format of MPEG-1 video specifically for playback on a Nintendo DS.


http://sourceforge.net/projects/dpg4x/

It is also important that the output of the app needs to be directed outside of the Savefile -- otherwise it will continuously run out of space.

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PostPosted: Fri 06 Aug 2010, 22:38    Post subject:  

Quote:
Is pvideo (or an equivalent) available already, or can it be added to Fatdog64?

I just tried it in spup 040 -- it's a real simple and handy tool to download video from YouTube and Yahoo and other places.


In Firefox go to Tools Add-ons and search for flash. You'll find several add-ons for Firefox to download flash videos.

Quote:
Does dpg4x need to be compiled for Fatdog64 or may it be run as-is?


It probably needs to be compiled. I might give it a go, I still haven't got around to compiling Thunderbird.
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