KDPUP = KDE 3.5.10 + dpup 484 beta 4

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davec51 · #81 Post by **davec51** » Fri 09 Jul 2010, 17:42

Trying to launch from terminal I get:
using /root/.bar88
using a superbar
I did take out the spaces in /root/.wbar
I don't know what a superbar is.
Still languishing without wbar.

davec51 · #82 Post by **davec51** » Fri 09 Jul 2010, 17:42

Trying to launch from terminal I get:
using /root/.wbar for config file
using a superbar
I did take out the spaces in /root/.wbar
I don't know what a superbar is.
Still languishing without wbar.

dejan555 · #83 Post by **dejan555** » Sat 10 Jul 2010, 06:04

I will take a look later and make a pet or something, I think gposil had some patch related to wbar.

dejan555 · #84 Post by **dejan555** » Sat 10 Jul 2010, 06:51

And remember - you can also add another kde panel and add launchers to it

wbar totally works too, just need to check what prevents it from starting.
BTW, try to take full wbar command from /root/Startup/dpupstart script and run from terminal.
/root/.wbar is fine as it was, no need to change anything.

dejan555 · #85 Post by **dejan555** » Sat 10 Jul 2010, 09:50

Hey people, what do you think, should I make a lighter version of kdpup?
I was thinking kde desktop only + konqueror, konsole and maybe few more apps, without additional printer drivers, games, media editing apps that probably noone uses, etc...

Which apps should I keep?
Maybe gimp and amarok / vlc?

sc0ttman · #86 Post by **sc0ttman** » Sat 10 Jul 2010, 11:11

dejan555 wrote:Hey people, what do you think, should I make a lighter version of kdpup?
I was thinking kde desktop only + konqueror, konsole and maybe few more apps, without additional printer drivers, games, media editing apps that probably noone uses, etc...

Which apps should I keep?
Maybe gimp and amarok / vlc?

I'd love to get my hands on the slimmest KDE pup you can make...

dejan555 · #87 Post by **dejan555** » Sat 10 Jul 2010, 11:45

Oh so slimmest one?

Well, if I just add kde on top of dpup it would be about 230 MB I think.
If I removed some apps from dpup I guess I could squeeze it into 200 - mini CD size

but I doubt I would manage that - can't be bothered to remove stuff, only to add

Still, kde + konqueror/konsole and ff would be some bare minimum.
GIMP and VLC are kinda must have apps too but I can try to make kde desktop only base iso.

dejan555 · #88 Post by **dejan555** » Sat 10 Jul 2010, 20:55

I just made an iso - it's 218 MB without firefox (well, since konqueror is also a browser, not just file manager it can serve at least to download different one if you don't like it

Other then firefox I think I haven't removed anything that was in dpup so it should be possible to trim it down to 200 MB.

James C · #89 Post by **James C** » Sat 10 Jul 2010, 21:28

sc0ttman wrote: I'd love to get my hands on the slimmest KDE pup you can make...

Me too.

dejan555 · #90 Post by **dejan555** » Sun 11 Jul 2010, 13:48

I'm gonna upload iso when I get the chance - it's 220 MB with konqueror browser only - no extra apps and stuff but most applications from dpup are still there too.

BTW, anyone knows how to solve screen locking problem when running kde screensaver locker? Auth system fails, I've read about this on net - kcheckpass is not a problem since it's already running as root so it has all permissions it needs so I guess it's a problem in pam daemon/configuration I have no idea how to write one.

willem1940NLD · #91 Post by **willem1940NLD** » Sun 25 Jul 2010, 12:14

I suffered under konqueror before (SUSE) and am not longing for some repeat; totally useless on Web.

Just tried 484 beta downloaded last night, as CDlive and am now preparing to install on HD. Looks fine and it DOES PRINT (hp deskjet 3650).

Thx so far.

dejan555 · #92 Post by **dejan555** » Sun 25 Jul 2010, 12:27

Glad it works for you so far Willem and I keep konqueror more because of it's file manager functions and integration with kde.
Have fun!

willem1940NLD · #93 Post by **willem1940NLD** » Sun 25 Jul 2010, 12:53

Problem: cannot use 484 without the CD; at restart, it does not find the saved files on my sda2 partition, though duly saved and GRUB (same partition) working.

willem1940NLD · #94 Post by **willem1940NLD** » Sun 25 Jul 2010, 15:46

Thanks for hints in puppychat. Found "puppy installer" in KDE menu.

Could not reboot or poweroff, till I added in grub kernel line
acpi=force
which somebody taught me earlier in chat.

Firefox behaving strange; terribly long startup and does not obey to "show my home page" setting.

willem1940NLD · #95 Post by **willem1940NLD** » Sun 25 Jul 2010, 19:28

So sorry, will remove 484 because I cannot make it work orderly.

Could it be it has not yet been tried deepgoing for HD full install?

Two more clean reinstalls.

- Grub deteriorates within 2 restarts: no more reboots, no more poweroff, just restarting X instead but then laming Firefox (server not found); grub menu.lst looks o.k, though
- Firefox {I suspect: bugged by konqueror/KDE} does not obey to ordered home page
- messengers {bugged by konqueror/KDE?} cannot open e-mail (hotmail)

Edit: slight change: Grub seems to behave now, after 3x using mains switch and ignoring comments on reboot; does poweroff and reboot now. Firefox still as bad.

dejan555 · #96 Post by **dejan555** » Sun 25 Jul 2010, 21:41

Firefox doesn't open home page because of different .desktop files format, can fix that by editing /usr/share/applications/FireFoxox.desktop
Open it as text, remove the "$@" after the firefox command then save.

I'm running full install, works for me, messengers also both work, not sure what's the problem, did you configure your internet connection first?

willem1940NLD · #97 Post by **willem1940NLD** » Sun 25 Jul 2010, 22:18

Found the firefox thing you indicated and saw mij way to erase "$@" using Geany.

Restarted computer, still nothing changed.

Triple checked, "$@" stays away.

Firefox still does not obey home page.

Pidgin, Kopete, aMSN .... cannot open hotmail (e-mail) messages but all can chat. They do NOT see Firefox.

Think something else or more needs correction, maybe in KDE settings .... remember a comparable problem in KDE4.5 SUSE but forgot how it was resolved.

Note: Pidgin, at clicking, first tries to lead me to freenode chat .... which has an own entry as well in menu (Weechat) .... confusing.

Yes, net connection o.k, I am using the machine this moment to type here and it was second thing I installed (firewall first).

willem1940NLD · #98 Post by **willem1940NLD** » Sun 25 Jul 2010, 23:50

Mount and Startmount (drives) both do not work properly; must do all by hand.

Grub failing again, "repaired" my way, will not last more than 3 reboots then again rendering unsollicited X-restart only.

Keyboard variant USA-intl (so, WITH the accents/diacritics) duly chosen but disappears in 2-3 restarts. this to me is a known KDE-bug. Often the proper setting remains visible in Control Center but must be re-opened and repeated/manipulated to get to work again for so long or short as it lasts.

I am really sorry, as 484 has a lot of attractive things for me, but cannot go on using it this way.

willem1940NLD · #99 Post by **willem1940NLD** » Mon 26 Jul 2010, 00:04

Grub now totally beyond repair, keeps restarting "tty" or something instead of following reboot/poweroff. Does appear after mains switch forced restart, then needing twice control-alt-delete repeat to login.

Will now remove 484, waiting for a newer version.

dejan555 · #100 Post by **dejan555** » Tue 27 Jul 2010, 18:00

Made some graphics last night, I added pic to second post tell me what you think.

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