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#21 Post by Sylvander »

The locations on the desktop, of the icons for the partitions...
Are not good.

How should I move these to preferred locations?
When I try to move an icon by drag 'n drop...
When I drop it...
It just moves back from where it came. :( :?

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#22 Post by Sage »

Just one little matter. I've noticed that several distros/apps don't like 'combo' CD-R&W/DVD-R drives. A man of your calibre, gray, may be able to fix this?
Otherwise, it's purring along - oh, sorry, barking along.

And, something dodgy with Firefox - gives all sorts of flicker, dropping out and other spurious behaviours regradless of Xorg/XVESA. Ignore my previous advocacy of Opera, but really that browser, (maybe also Chrome?) now seems to the next big thing since professional criminals are so actively hitting FF as well as their longer target of IE.

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#23 Post by Henry »

Good morning,

Here's the way I have organized the desktop. Very conventional. And why not?

http://henrystrobel.com/linux.htm

EDIT - It's all working and in use except for VirtualBox, which I just noticed gray had posted for Quirky. I'm downloading it now.

Regards to all, and thanks to gray!

Henry
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Quirky NOP 1.2

#24 Post by Billtoo »

I downloaded the nvidia driver from the same site as the NOP iso and installed it.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Quirky, version 120

Chip description:
07:02.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)

Driver used by Xorg:
#card0driver

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
49870 frames in 5.0 seconds = 9973.878 FPS
49893 frames in 5.0 seconds = 9978.476 FPS
49975 frames in 5.0 seconds = 9994.876 FPS
49961 frames in 5.0 seconds = 9992.128 FPS
50011 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10002.080 FPS
50002 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10000.369 FPS
#
Display
Resolution 1920x1080 pixels
OpenGL Renderer GeForce 8600 GT/PCI/SSE2
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
#
OpenGL
Vendor NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer GeForce 8600 GT/PCI/SSE2
Version 3.3.0 NVIDIA 256.35
Direct Rendering Yes
#
Current Session
Computer Name puppypc
User Name root (root)
Home Directory /root
Desktop Environment XFCE 4

another great puppy to use :)

Edit:

I downloaded Opera 10.60 and use that.
I added the devx and compiled two small apps, weechat and moc.
Having fun, thanks

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VirtualBox in Quirky 1.2

#25 Post by Henry »

I downloaded the new VirtualBox .pets and installed them (in /opt/).

Oracle VM VirtualBox appears in the menu. Space decreased by about 68Mb.

But it doesn't start. I note that I already have a GuestAdditions.iso from Nop in /mnt/home/. Also a 3Gb win2k.vdi.

It's been a while since I set up that .vdi. Nearly forgot about it. It's been completely trouble free. Can it be reused?

It looks like time for a weekend break . . .

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#26 Post by gray »

Henry,

You jumped the gun a bit mate. Just re-uploaded the pet.

To fix your problem try the entering the depmod-FULL command in the terminal and then re-start the computer.

VB depends on SDL and OpenGL.

Have you installed an SDL pet from the quirky repo ?

For OpenGl you need either the mesa pet or if you have an NVIDIA card then my NVIDIA pet includes OpenGL.

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#27 Post by Sylvander »

Discovered that it's possible to drag 'n drop desktop icons to certain locations but not to others.
Seems each icon has some kind of invisible force field around it that occupies quite a big area.
Hence the icons will only go to locations that are quite widely spaced.
e.g. They are about 1.25 inches up from the taskbar and 1 inch separation from each other.
That spacing seems to me to be too wide. [I have 12 partition/drive icons right now]

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#28 Post by sc0ttman »

Sylvander wrote:Discovered that it's possible to drag 'n drop desktop icons to certain locations but not to others.
Seems each icon has some kind of invisible force field around it that occupies quite a big area.
Hence the icons will only go to locations that are quite widely spaced.
e.g. They are about 1.25 inches up from the taskbar and 1 inch separation from each other.
That spacing seems to me to be too wide. [I have 12 partition/drive icons right now]
You can go into the ROX options menu and change this.. I cant' remember exactly where, but you can change the spacing to 'fine', which is much less annoying!
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#29 Post by DaveS »

sc0ttman wrote:
Sylvander wrote:Discovered that it's possible to drag 'n drop desktop icons to certain locations but not to others.
Seems each icon has some kind of invisible force field around it that occupies quite a big area.
Hence the icons will only go to locations that are quite widely spaced.
e.g. They are about 1.25 inches up from the taskbar and 1 inch separation from each other.
That spacing seems to me to be too wide. [I have 12 partition/drive icons right now]
You can go into the ROX options menu and change this.. I cant' remember exactly where, but you can change the spacing to 'fine', which is much less annoying!
Dont think so sc0ttman......... NOP uses XFCE + Thunar desktop and filemanager, not Rox. In the latest XFCE you can right click on the desktop, uncheck 'keep aligned', and then put the icons where you want, as in Mint, but not available in this version.
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#30 Post by DaveS »

Latest Gnumeric, Firefox with Compactmenu and Chromifox theme, monofont url, desktop image 'borrowed' from Mint, window theme modified by myself, based on Curve. Also lates patched Abiword. NO bugs so far.

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#31 Post by Sylvander »

Read posts #254 through #257 on page 11 of my Puppy Linux thread at the PC-Guide.

#257 explains how I changed the size of the partition/drive icons. :D

Now need to know how to change the spacing. :?

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#32 Post by DaveS »

Sylvander wrote:Read posts #254 through #257 on page 11 of my Puppy Linux thread at the PC-Guide.

#257 explains how I changed the size of the partition/drive icons. :D

Now need to know how to change the spacing. :?
Not promising, see here:
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=110&t=16666
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#33 Post by Sylvander »

Thanks Dave, but wary of attempting such stuff.
Like to keep things so they seem simple to me.

New problem:
1.
(a) This is the only Puppy that won't save the internet connection settings for eth0 once established and functioning during a session.
Other Puppies that work OK:
Lighthouse-4.43f
Teenpup mini 2010 beta
Lupu-501
Boxpup-431
qrky-120

(b) It's almost acceptably easy and quick to go through the procedure at the beginning of each new session, but I'm not prepared to ask family members to do that, nor do it myself.

2. Just yesterday fitted for the 1st time a wireless router [D-Link DIR-615 ver.D4].
It has been routine and easy to set that up.
Easiest in Win2000Pro because the supplied CD ran a wizard.
Couldn't find a wizard in any Puppies that would do the job.
In each Puppy, had to use the IP address for the router in a web-browser, but that was then pretty easy to complete.

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#34 Post by DaveS »

Sylvander wrote:Just yesterday fitted for the 1st time a wireless router [D-Link DIR-615 ver.D4].
It has been routine and easy to set that up.
Easiest in Win2000Pro because the supplied CD ran a wizard.
In each Puppy, had to use the IP address for the router in a web-browser, but that was then pretty easy to complete.
Could you not just use the internet connection wizard? menu>setup>internet connection wizard>internet by wired or wireless LAN>simple network setup>wlan0 ?

Not saving network settings comes up often. I think you have to add a boot parameter, something like acpid=force, but I am not sure.
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#35 Post by Sylvander »

1. "Could you not just use the internet connection wizard? menu>setup>internet connection wizard>internet by wired or wireless LAN>simple network setup>wlan0 ?"
If I try:
(a) "Simple Network Setup"...
It shows right now that:
"Currently there is a working internet connection, on interface "eth0"".

(b) "Classic Network Wizard"...
Says, "Puppy has identified the following network interface on your computer, but it still needs to be configured"...
Actually it doesn't because it has already been configured, and is functioning.

(c) Seems these wizards only set up the NIC, NOT the ROUTER!
I had to set up the router by using a web-browser.
Type the IP address into the address bar and hit enter, and ALMOST every time it brought up a window [generated by the router?] that was the beginning of the procedure to configure the router's internal settings.
Didn't find that difficult. :D

2. "Not saving network settings comes up often. I think you have to add a boot parameter, something like acpid=force"
Exactly how is that done?
Which file must be edited?

3. New question:
I notice that sometimes there is a big difference between CPU usage on the CPU-graph widget, and the CPU display in the system tray at bottom right.
When the widget is showing little CPU usage, the tray display can be maxed out [purple = solid to the top].

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Connection holds as expected

#36 Post by Henry »

Sylvander wrote: . . .
New problem:
1.
(a) This is the only Puppy that won't save the internet connection settings for eth0 once established and functioning during a session. . .
Just to note that I don't see any such problem (if I understand it right). But I use the same wired eth0 I always have.

Henry

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#37 Post by Sylvander »

1. "I don't see any such problem"
Think I've solved the problem.
(a) I have my system configured to not save during the session, and I installed SavePuppy.pup, and made a save2flash icon for the program on the desktop/pinboard, and use that to MANUALLY save during the session.

(b) Also made additional changes so that the session isn't automatically saved at shut-down, but instead I'm asked [at shut-down] whether I want to save the session [yes/no].

(c) Further:
In this Puppy, there is a tick-box [tick to save the session for future logins] in the "log out root" window.

(d) When I use all 3 ways to save...
Manually
Tick-box
Yes to save the session at shut-down.
...The web-connect configurations are saved apparently, because they function during the following session.
I'm wondering...
If I leave the tick-box unticked...
Does that prevent a further save during shut-down, even if I answer yes to a save at shut-down?
i.e Must BOTH be set to save, else it doesn't?

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Re: Virtualbox

#38 Post by Henry »

gray wrote:Henry,

You jumped the gun a bit mate. Just re-uploaded the pet.
To fix your problem try the entering the depmod-FULL command in the terminal and then re-start the computer.
VB depends on SDL and OpenGL.
Have you installed an SDL pet from the quirky repo ?
For OpenGl you need either the mesa pet or if you have an NVIDIA card then my NVIDIA pet includes OpenGL.
Good morning, gray,

I uninstalled, redownloaded, and reinstalled both .pets (did not see any change to their date or size. Did I jump the gun? :-))

I installed sdl-1.2.11 and mesa-7.6-q1. Rebooted, depmod-FULL, but no start.

Something odd here: VirtualBox appears in the menu. When I search for virtualbox.desktop, it finds two locations, i.e. /usr/share/applications/virtualbox.desktop and /opt/ virtualbox/virtualbox.desktop. But when I navigate to those locations it's not there!

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Question on Xfce details?

#39 Post by Henry »

In the upper right corner of windows there's an inverted v just left of the minimize -. I didn't have it in Nop. It's just clutter for me, since I never use "rollups." Can this be removed?

In the lower panel, minimized applications are shown by an icon. In Nop these were shown by a small icon and the name of the application. Is this a matter of choice? I sometimes overlook an available setting.

Nothing earth-shaking here.

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#40 Post by magerlab »

these two things can be easily changed by adjusting xfce4 settings

firstly find Settings in menu - xfce4 Settings manager. find window manager button and you'll see that you can do there :)

then right click on panel , find Add New Item and you can add a " conventional" task list to panel
and also remove Icon box if you want( i keep it on netbook and do not use it on desktop)

Also there are many things inside Xfce4 settings manager ( composite effects and focus model for example) :D

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