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[playdayz]

tubeguy,

Sorry I didn't realize that your graphics had changed since 209. Of course something big had happened since then--we shifted to booting straight to the desktop. I have perhaps been remiss in my educational responsibility to explain this. When luci-209 booted "through" xorgwizard, then Barry's programming in xorgwizard was determining which drivers to use. When we now go straight to the desktop, it is Xorg that is determining the drivers. Sometimes Barry's script makes a better guess--particularly with older cards I am betting. However, when we boot straight to the desktop we *First* have the Xorg way, and then, if necessary we have the xorgwizard way. That is two chances to get it right and at the same time most people get a well-configured desktop right off the bat--and they like that--people have been very clear.

This has been something Xorg has been working toward since Xorg 7.3--since then Xorg has been able to auto config without an xorg.conf. We boot to a first run dialog that offers 2 buttons, OK and Make Some Changes. Those who choose to make changes can configure their Language and Locale, Keyboard Layout, and video driver and resolution by clicking two buttons.

The system does makes those changes immediately, reliably and persistently. If someone decides later that they would like to change their keyboard, and they use the Mouse/Keyboard Wizard--when they click to Change their Keyboard layout they are taken to the Video, Language and Keyboard Changer where it is explained that the keyboard and video driver must be set together. They are not taken to an error screen. If someone is determined to break the system they probably can. That seems like a long way to go though, when everything is right there on the opening screen in 3 simple clicks. If someone says, "the system doesn't work" that is wrong--and not very helpful either.

[James C]

Finally got around to trying Lupu-503 on the quad..............

Live pfix=ram. Initial boot brought a usable display,sound and internet. Install the Nvidia 256.36 pet from Quickpet.........following the instructions does not work........exiting to a prompt,entering "nvidia-xconfig" then "xwin" brings a distorted display with no acceleration. However, exit to prompt, "xorgwizard", "choose","nvidia" ,"1360x768x24" and "xwin".......followed by a trip to the "Nvidia X Settings Wizard" to get the correct 1368x768x24 resolution works.


# graphix_test
For your nVidia card, nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] (rev a2) we think the best add on driver is nvidia-173.14.25 or nvidia-256.36. It would be required for some programs and games with high graphcial content and your desktop might seem a bit more snappy. They are available in Quickpet under Drivers
nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] (rev a2)
nVidia
GeForce
7025
#




VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 503

Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: MCP61 - mcp61-86 Chip Rev

Driver used by Xorg:
nvidia

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#

# glxgears
7378 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1475.600 FPS
10368 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2073.600 FPS
10402 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2080.400 FPS
10406 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2081.200 FPS
10401 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2080.200 FPS
10403 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2080.600 FPS
14382 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2876.400 FPS
14803 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2960.600 FPS
14600 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2920.000 FPS
14809 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2961.800 FPS
14901 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2980.200 FPS
14897 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2979.400 FPS
14859 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2971.800 FPS



-OpenGL-
Vendor : NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer : GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a/PCI/SSE2/3DNOW!
Version : 2.1.2 NVIDIA 256.35
Direct Rendering : Yes

[Lobster]

I have noticed a tendency of Firefox in 503 to hang (freeze)
That was not there in the previous release (If Adope Flash messed up then only that tab was lost). Has anyone else experienced this? Has there been a change?
Ethernet is now persistent but I have to use setup wizard to set sound each time. ALSA config is not persistent.

Font changer for LCD worked well
Intern on hold - Puppy satellite considered priority (only in Lobsterian reality)
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=436401#436401

[playdayz]

[Billtoo]

I installed Lupu-503 to a 4gb SanDisk SD card using bootflash and I boot it
from the SD card on my eeepc 701.I installed the video driver,the devx,Chromium
browser,vlc,and after updating the puppy package manager I installed tunapie.

Vlc works great on this netbook and combined with tunapie I can watch internet
tv and it looks pretty good on the 7" screen.

I also have a full install of Puppeee RC7 on the 4gb internal hard drive so I
can boot into either distro so this netbook will actually get used more now.

Puppy is cool

[shinobar]

[tubeguy]

[Abnormalter]

shinobar: "...Add next lines at the tail of /etc/X11/xorg.conf0(or xorg.conf0XORG73 ?) and let it be xorg.conf, which should be preset on CD"

-- Yes, as much else, I would like to see is recorded and presented in the CD...
Because for a long time I have to use own package containing patches and add-ons immediately after the start / install Puppy (some of which I presented to the community of my small 2-3 packages, see about).

shinobar: "i found xwin should be modified to accomplish direct desktop at the first boot. i am investigating."
shinobar: "...expand lupu-503 in the working directory, and in the tree..."
"...If it is there, 'Xorg configure' fails, subsequently xorgwizard fails to make full xorg.conf..."

-- Use my code by typing in the first-run script and you'll be happy!

[shinobar]

modify WORKINGDIR/usr/bin/xwin. insert next code at line 295-

[Iguleder]

01micko, found some problem with the nvidia 256 PET from Quickpet: it asks you to run nvidia-xconfig, however:
1) some PETs don't require this
2) pkg-config is needed to run it, and pkg-config is part of the devx

So change the text, something like "run xorgwizard, select 'choose', type nvidia and select your desired display mode to utilize the driver and take full advantage of your computer's capabilities".

Another problem is CUPS. I couldn't enter the web interface, had to set up a loopback device which wasn't present, that's weird already. Then, I couldn't authenticate, so I opened /etc/cups/cupsd.conf and commented these lines:

[ICPUG]

Just to say that I have now tested 503 on my laptop with Intel 855 graphics.

I reran the tests I ran with 213 and everything worked OK. Live CD booted direct to desktop utilising Xorg autoconfig.

Frugal ran OK without the i915.modeset=1 bootcode. I retained the video=640x480 as it is my preference to have larger characters in terminal mode.

Changed keyboard and resolution and changed to intel driver. All OK except for the touchpad tapping and scroll. Use 'configure your touchpad' to set that correct.

All OK.

[shinobar]

nvidia-xconfig fails at the first boot, where the xorg.conf is not completed.
we need to run xorgwizard and 'choose' nvidia, but 'probe' fails as Iguleder desclibes.

I found. After the first run, install nvidia-glx, type on the virtual terminal:

[01micko]

shinobar

We have taken care of nVidia, please trust me on this

We are fully aware of the failure of nvidia-xconfig and have adjusted all the 'official' nVidia driver DOT_pets accordingly. There is also a help file in Quickpet that will open in the user's browser, (coming soon) giving the user full instructions and the chance to translate if their browser has the capability.

In saying that, I wonder how Ubuntu get around that issue? Though, I'm sure they have more developer resources in their stock pile.

Cheers

[Iguleder]

nvidia-xconfig needs the devx, shinobar. That's the problem. I didn't try probing without nvidia loaded, because I chose it.

The best thing to do is a pinstall.sh that does modprobe nvidia and shows a message that asks the user to choose nvidia.

EDIT: 01micko, is it possible to use sed and replace "nv" with "nvidia" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?

[01micko]