Lucid Puppy 5.1- A Full-Featured Compact Distro

[Stripe]

Hi All
frugal install 212

no problems with instalation and set up
(Never auto connected to net (presume turned off))

downloaded everything, no missed dependencies listed
audacity not in puppy-lucid repo and would not download from quickpet

just going to start testing programs

Don

[James C]

One more time................................

Running Luci- live pfix=ram on my main Linux box. Booted to correct resolution,sound and internet. Installed Opera and Xorg_High................


VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 212

Chip description:
oem: S3 Graphics ProSavage DDR Family BIOS
product: VBE 3.0 Rev 0.0

Driver used by Xorg:


Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth:

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#


Vendor : S3 Graphics Inc.
Renderer : Mesa DRI ProSavageDDR 20061110 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE
Version : 1.2 Mesa 7.7.1
Direct Rendering : Yes

# glxgears

2130 frames in 5.0 seconds
2362 frames in 5.0 seconds
7862 frames in 5.0 seconds
7841 frames in 5.0 seconds
8351 frames in 5.0 seconds
8267 frames in 5.0 seconds
8150 frames in 5.0 seconds
8021 frames in 5.0 seconds
7908 frames in 5.0 seconds

[playdayz]

Thanks rjbrewer. We think we will be able to catch that in luci-213 and in Lucid Puppy 5.1. Thanks for your help. It would be good if we could figure out which Intel graphics chips are the problem so we could let the others boot directly to the desktop.

You were using luci-212 when it crashed to black--just want to make sure.

Do you happen to know what driver is used when it goes through xorgwizard--or do you choose one? Does it work well after that?

Could you opena terminal and enter lspci--the scroll through and look for a line with vga, and then the name and number of the graphics card--that way we will know how to search for it when booting.

[playdayz]

(Never auto connected to net (presume turned off))

Hey stripe, If you have an ethernet connection with simple dhcp, it should auto connect--but nothing tells you that except the connect icon blinky in the bottom right corner. Luci-212 does not offer the first run connect dialog like luci-207-210--that seemed like it would be too many things popping up all at once! For a wireless connection you need to start connect yourself. Thanks.

audacity not in puppy-lucid repo and would not download from quickpet

Hmm, I'll check.

[playdayz]

bash: glxgears: command not found

glxgears is in xorg_High and maybe the nvidia pets. I should move it to the default iso I think, just so it would always be there.

[James C]

Installed icewm w/ PPM and VLC and Pwidgets w/Quickpet........

[rjbrewer]

Thanks rjbrewer. We think we will be able to catch that in luci-213 and in Lucid Puppy 5.1. Thanks for your help. It would be good if we could figure out which Intel graphics chips are the problem so we could let the others boot directly to the desktop.

You were using luci-212 when it crashed to black--just want to make sure.

Do you happen to know what driver is used when it goes through xorgwizard--or do you choose one? Does it work well after that?

Could you opena terminal and enter lspci--the scroll through and look for a line with vga, and then the name and number of the graphics card--that way we will know how to search for it when booting.

Yes; I was trying to boot luci-212. Haven't tried one for a while.
With previous lupu-luci I used the tip from Ariel in order to boot
into vesa.

puppy pfix=nox
xorg-setup.old
vesa
xwin

Doesn't work this time; apparently trying xorg automatically.

This is the problematic card:

DESCRIPTION: Intel Corporation 82852/82855 GM/GME/PM/GMV Processor to I/O Controller
VENDOR: 8086 DEVICE: 3580 KERNEL MODULE: intel-agp

DESCRIPTION: Intel Corporation 82852/82855 GM/GME/PM/GMV Processor to I/O Controller
VENDOR: 8086 DEVICE: 3584 KERNEL MODULE: unknown

DESCRIPTION: Intel Corporation 82852/82855 GM/GME/PM/GMV Processor to I/O Controller
VENDOR: 8086 DEVICE: 3585 KERNEL MODULE: unknown

DESCRIPTION: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device
VENDOR: 8086 DEVICE: 3582 KERNEL MODULE: unknown

I use xvesa or vesa with this card for any puppy version.

[James C]

Quick live test of Luci-212 on one of my old Nvidia boxes.

Same as other tests, booted to a correct display with working sound and internet.No acceleration as expected. Installed Opera and CatDude's 93.46.16 Nvidia pet.....................................


VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 212

Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: NV18 Board - p119s0nz Chip Rev A4

Driver used by Xorg:
nvidia

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#

-OpenGL
Vendor : NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer : GeForce4 MX 4000/AGP/SSE2
Version : 1.5.8 NVIDIA 96.43.16
Direct Rendering : Yes


# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
4429 frames in 5.0 seconds
5715 frames in 5.0 seconds
5679 frames in 5.0 seconds
5679 frames in 5.0 seconds
5715 frames in 5.0 seconds
5680 frames in 5.0 seconds
5668 frames in 5.0 seconds


14348 frames in 5.0 seconds
15758 frames in 5.0 seconds
13892 frames in 5.0 seconds
15607 frames in 5.0 seconds
15654 frames in 5.0 seconds


EDIT: A with a little test tweak,it got better......



17985 frames in 5.0 seconds
17752 frames in 5.0 seconds
17897 frames in 5.0 seconds
17838 frames in 5.0 seconds
17012 frames in 5.0 seconds
17304 frames in 5.0 seconds
15344 frames in 5.0 seconds
10769 frames in 5.0 seconds
13685 frames in 5.0 seconds
15980 frames in 5.0 seconds
15623 frames in 5.0 seconds
15903 frames in 5.0 seconds
15811 frames in 5.0 seconds
16119 frames in 5.0 seconds
16011 frames in 5.0 seconds
15854 frames in 5.0 seconds
15292 frames in 5.0 seconds
16169 frames in 5.0 seconds
15251 frames in 5.0 secon

[scsijon]

sorry guys, but already came across these:-

-boot from cd
1/ noticed depmod took 15sec+, been 5-6 in past for first run
2/ started video (intel) but at the max for chipset /monitor (1600x1200), no questions asked, was unuseable, should be set 800x600 or 1024x768
3/ when first shutdown I forgot to install, it created a savefile where I wanted it, but on reboot it didn't pick it up, had to do everything again.

- installed frugal

4/ had to reboot w/o cd and create a savefile before I could start quickpets, nothing would happen on icon or via menu.
5/ started browser, stretched video (vertically) as in last version so just closed it.
6/ tried to download ffox and "xorg-high" for video, popup said please wait for your....., then cleared to nothing, then after a time "connection timed out.....". tried both again via ppm, no problems downloading and installing.

gone back to 431 for now, will try further later and add a part 2.

Update Note: decreased video speed from 85 to 75hz, video in browsers are now useable although the glxgears doesn't seem to have changed ?????. I can actually work with it, no stretch marks. The fonts are still ?discusting and thin walled though.


scsijon

hope this helps
lspci>
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82915G/P/GV/GL/PL/910GL Memory Controller Hub (rev 04)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 04)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 04)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 04)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #1 (rev 04)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #2 (rev 04)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #3 (rev 04)
00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #4 (rev 04)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 04)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev d4)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FR (ICH6/ICH6R) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 04)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FW (ICH6/ICH6W) SATA Controller (rev 04)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 04)
03:01.0 Ethernet controller: D-Link System Inc DGE-530T Gigabit Ethernet Adapter (rev 11) (rev 11)

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VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 212

Chip description:
Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller

Driver used by Xorg:
intel

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

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glxgears>
range between 3171 to 3187 per 5 seconds

[darwinev0lved]

There is one thing that would help us a lot darwinev0lved. If you could open a temrinal and run 'lspci >> darwinsbox' it and then copy that file to a message we can see exactly which Intel card is giving the problem. Once we know that then we can intercept it before the badness happens. Thanks.

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# lspci >> testfile

The name of the file at the end doesn't matter (testfile, darwinsbox, etc.).[/quote]

Hi, attached the testfile
Here is the graphics line
Display controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)

About to try 212.

Regards,
Jon.

[darwinev0lved]

Hi again, well I'm posting this from Luci212 running Xorg.
Tried to boot as normal - but hit the blackscreen.
Booted with pfix=nox and this time choosing the i810 driver worked. Will start testing / trying to break other things.

Regards, Jon

[darwinev0lved]

Well, that's weird. Tried the java quickpet. It worked absolutely fine for 501 this time, it simply fails to copy the files to ~/home
It does copy other files, so in ~/.packages there is a jre-1.6.0.20.files and all the files in /usr/bin and /usr/lib are copied.
So, odd.

Edit: was able to get round this by copying the jre-1.6.0.20.tar.gz whilst the pet was extracting (this seems like a really stupid way of doing things - but XArchive won't open pet files - which is also stupid, is there a more sensible way of looking into / extracting specific files from .pets ?)
So java is working, but not as smoothly as it should.
Could there be something odd about my /mnt/home? Can't think what it would be though.

[pemasu]

luci-212 works fine so far.

VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 212

Chip description:
Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller

Driver used by Xorg:
intel

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

Streamtuner and shoutcast has stopped working for me with streamtuner pet.

So I installed streamtuner2 deb from their homepage. I installed python lucid pet. First pygtk module was missing, but I was able to enable it. Update-python-modules and from python console import pygtk did the trick.

But glade module was something I wasnt able to install. From python console: import gtk.glade was unsuccessful. I tried installing many kind of glade and libglade and python-glade packages from ubuntu repository without luck.

[Billtoo]

Running Live

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 212

Chip description:
Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller

Driver used by Xorg:


Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth:

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
bash: glxgears: command not found
#
Download and install Xorg High -GLX from quickpet

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 212

Chip description:
Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller

Driver used by Xorg:


Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth:

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
4350 frames in 5.0 seconds
4811 frames in 5.0 seconds
4811 frames in 5.0 seconds
4817 frames in 5.0 seconds
#
OpenGL
Vendor Tungsten Graphics, Inc
Renderer Mesa DRI Intel(R) G33 GEM 20091221 2009Q4 x86/MMX/SSE2
Version 1.4 Mesa 7.7.1
Direct Rendering Yes

[stu90]

frugal install of 212 with xorg-high:

Gtk-record-my-desktop.pet appears not to be working correctly. Doesn't encode after making a recording, switching to encoding on the fly produced a recording but it is unwatchable just a bunch of fuzzy colors.

[smokey01]

XArchive won't open pet files - which is also stupid, is there a more sensible way of looking into / extracting specific files from .pets ?)

To look inside a pet called filename.pet simply add .tar.gz to the pet package.

EG: filename.pet.tar.gz

Now XArchive will let you look inside.

[ICPUG]

Here is my report of 211 with Intel 855 graphics.

I run my test on a laptop frugal install dual boot with Windows (Lin'N'Win).

As reported by others with other Intel boards you get the black screen of death.

The solution is not pfix=nox, running with VESA or running with i810 like previously.

In order to get the solution you have to understand what the problem is.

Thanks to Tazoc of Lighthouse Puppy fame the problem was isolated to Kernel Mode Setting.

THE SOLUTION IS:
Boot up the kernel with the following boot code:
i915.modeset=1

i.e in your menu.lst if booting from grub:
kernel (hd0,0)/luci211/vmlinuz PMEDIA=idehd PDEV1=sda1 psubdir=luci211 i915.modeset=1 (this is not a separate line - its a continuation)
initrd (hd0,0)/luci211/initrd.gz

Now, I know you guys are busy but I wish you would read Barry's blog at least. I identified this to Barry a little while ago and he is running with it.

There is one side issue when you do the above. The framebuffer used when you go to a terminal or when you close down Luci is scrunched up - it does not use the standard VGA terminal. Some say you cannot use a standard VGA terminal but Lighthouse Puppy 5.00C seems to look better.

Another issue: When I booted up letting Xorg configure automatically I then decided to change the keyboard settings etc. cos I thought it would be set to US if I didn't. I was a little surprised to have to configure Xorg as well but even worse I did not have an option to let Xorg automagically configure again

The only options were Probe Choose (and VESA?). Probe will crash - even with the kernel parameter set so I would have to select Choose and then pick Intel. While this works the touchpad does not behave so the automatic option is nice to have.

Sorry I only tested with 211. I tested last night and come back to report today and find there is a 212! Anyways i810 is not the solution.

[Lobster]

frugal install of 212 with xorg-high:

Gtk-record-my-desktop.pet appears not to be working correctly. Doesn't encode after making a recording, switching to encoding on the fly produced a recording but it is unwatchable just a bunch of fuzzy colors.

Fuzzy colours are an art feature
This is the mediaplayer
Try installing the vlc player and see if that works (it did for me)
- still no sound for me with Gtk-record-my-desktop

Straight to desktop -
Ethernet connection - (and I think persistent - paws crossed)
Firefox installed - done!
Graphic card test - yep worked - installed XorgHi - a fish could do it
Google Earth installed - yeah baby!
VLC installed - worked better than mediaplayer for the .ogv files produced - see above

[pemasu]

ICPUG and others using i915.modeset=1 with intel driver.

You can get better console resolution using video=640x480 as bootparameter

title Luci210
find --set-root --ignore-floppies /Luci210/initrd.gz
kernel /Luci210/vmlinuz pmedia=atahd psubdir=Luci210 i915.modeset=1 video=640x480 pfix=fsck
initrd /Luci210/initrd.gz

My luci-212 bootparameters from menu.lst. I havent renamed it yet to luci212.

[01micko]

Hi Everybody

I have fixed the kernel source for lucid puppy. It is now a more respectable 84MB

Here it is:

http://www.smokey01.com/01micko/lupu_ke ... atched.sfs 84M

78a989b17552d10bd2d7ba2f2c3c1217 kernel_src_L4-2.6.33.2-patched.sfs

Text file >- http://www.smokey01.com/01micko/lupu_ke ... atched.txt

I would appreciate if anyone can mirror this mainly as it is an open source requirement to post source code, and we wouldn't want it to go awol in a server disaster. Thank you.

Playdayz, can you post a prominent link to this and perhaps in the release note. Thank you.

As instructed by BarryK I ran

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# make clean
# make prepare

..

So it should be suitable for compiling any driver.

Cheers