TXZ_pup 4.5

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8-bit · #21 Post by **8-bit** » Sat 10 Jul 2010, 20:51

Just booted TXZ and I noticed two things.
The desktop text is extra large and outside of of the desktop the text in the terminal is extra small.
Also, my Nvidia ethernet is not recognized.
It uses the forcedeth driver.
So until I get those working, it is a nogo for me.

#22 Post by **BÃ©Ã¨m** » Sat 10 Jul 2010, 21:00

I went in rox options to adjust the size.
I went also in global size to adjust.

big_bass · #23 Post by **big_bass** » Sat 10 Jul 2010, 21:27

Hey 8-bit

what happened is because this is a package build
the order in which packages get installed is important and the old network wizard
over wrote the fixed one because it came later on the list of packages to install
in alphabetical order

could you try installing these then check if the force death module comes up in the list of modules in the GUI

UPDATED the network wizard2 7-13-2010 to include shinobars fix
http://puppy2.org/slaxer/network-wizard ... 3_SLXR.txz
http://puppy2.org/slaxer/netmodules-sla ... 3_SLXR.txz

thanks

about the big size of the text I noticed the age group puppy has the largest users in and thought to be kind to those who may have a hard time reading small text

thanks for posting
Joe

01micko · #24 Post by **01micko** » Sat 10 Jul 2010, 21:30

Hi Joe

Remarkable job you've done here.

Lately I have been diving into the guts of Linux and I know what kind of work and smarts have gone into this neat little distro.

I have found that Slackware deals with packages, especially libraries, completely differently to Debian. I wrote a little script here that converts debs, tgz and txz to pets (and it does deal with the 'doinst.sh' nicely). I do not expect you or anyone else to use it for TXZ pup! It's just a script I mainly made for myself, and I just tarted it up a bit to share. You know, to make it 'look' like I know what I'm doing!

Of course compiling is my favoured method of making packages, just sometimes I don't get the time to chase down the errors, and I haven't got much smarts when it comes to patching source! (I made another script to help me with that, but that's another story).

I tend to agree with Lobby that this is more than a 'puplet'. Have you thought about registering on Distrowatch? I'm sure Patrick would be interested, as many other Slackers would too, or do they already know

???

All the best mate,

Cheers

Mick

8-bit · #25 Post by **8-bit** » Sat 10 Jul 2010, 22:12

I can find nothing in the menus to setup or manage printing!
The SETUP-WIZARDWIZARD although it has an entry for CUPS fails.
Also, I cannot seem to access CUPS from the browser either.
I tried "localhost:631" and also my ipaddress:631 with no results.

Am I missing something here?

big_bass · #26 Post by **big_bass** » Sun 11 Jul 2010, 00:20

yes no cups pre installed on this version yet

I removed cups completely because cups itself was pieced together
with multiple fixes that werent included in the cups packages
available as official packages

and its easier to start clean with an updated version of cups
then it could be used in any other version easily as an upgrade

I discovered this when building with packages
the good news is though I also have packaged cups up
with an updated version number making it much easier to maintain when an upgrade is needed it would better to test the upgraded cups by installing the packages it also keeps the iso size down for those that dont need it
pre installed

I adjusted them to work with firefox since seamonkey was also completely removed
I just dont like the look of the html of cups in firefox

I'll up load the packages this week
*the slackware cups has always worked well for me

Joe

big_bass · #27 Post by **big_bass** » Sun 11 Jul 2010, 01:55

Hey Mick

Thanks for your post
many nice things said there (friend)

thanks for sharing the work you did with the package converts
you attached in the post
I'll check it out

and thanks for your slaxer logo I used for the desktop
on the cooking version

thanks mate
I always wanted to say that
Joe

big_bass · #28 Post by **big_bass** » Tue 13 Jul 2010, 01:48

I updated cups to 1.39

it does make the iso 40mb larger
I only had to really hack at the cups package itself
I also removed seamonkey for firefox
so there were additional fixes for that
all the support packages I left standard
the thing is there are also a lot of locales
if cut out all the other languages it would be smaller
and packaged the locales separately

since I already added many fixes and added cups to the iso
to make sure that it would work

do we have a lot of people who need or use cups

I can do it but is there a demand for it or not let me know please

well since I know it will work live cd I can remove cups again
and offer the packages to install 40mb is a bit heavy if you
dont have to print

Joe

big_bass · #29 Post by **big_bass** » Tue 13 Jul 2010, 14:48

I fixed all the minor bugs that were listed in this thread
and I am uploading the next iso ATM it will be ready in 2 hours to download

A few people tried to define what TXZ is

TXZ is built with TXZ packages everyone knows that puppy is built with pets
different pets for different versions which gets more complex with different
possible versions using different distros as a base

TXZ uses its own package management not only to install , remove ,view and check for dependencies it is also the "build tool used to build itself"
so it was a long process to code the entire front end of package tools in Xdialog
then build the packages in the TXZ format ( over 400 packages )

I used Xdialog to keep it light and fast and since it was compiled for gtk2 it follows the theme well

but now there is no need for a "fat free" type of iso
all the pre installed packages and their contents are listed and removable
removing a lot of guess work keeping things more transparent to what has changed from package to package

it takes an incredible about of time to dominate all the packages files, configurations and unique locations "puppy uses" for each new version
most people dont care they just download an iso

but slackware users are the rarest most careful of linux users they have to be able to know how everything works( TRANSPARENTLY) because most of them care for their system so much that most of them compile all their own packages
or only use official packages

thats why I am doing things differently but not differently for those that do use slackware they would be at home

a slackware package is a standard (it is known world wide)

what has always made slackware difficult for new users is just to get started

TXZ pup bridges that learning gap and lets you get started learning how linux
works without the pain involved setting it all up learning is part of the fun
it doesnt have to be painfully difficult

================how to ===================================

just click on a TXZ package it asks if you want to install it (thats easy)

just right click on a TXZ package and in rox an option for unzipper drag N drop 5
comes up what that does is auto name and decompress the package in a folder for you so you can see whats inside it before installing " if you wanted to check "

lets say you wanted to install any files you could place them in root
then click on slaxer_pkg_tools2.2

or if you like to be clean and have all the packages are in a special folder just copy slaxer_pkg_tools2.2 into that folder it will put all those packages and only them in the GUI nice hugh thats why slaxer_pkg_tools2.2 is just a script its portable its a front end tool
you can place it anywhere (thats easy )

same thing goes for uninstalling you can do multiple uninstalls from the GUI
just check the boxes (thats easy )

(thats easy too) Im not trying to make it complex I want it easy . I want it puppy
I want it stable. I got it now

P.S Note: no "pets" were injured during the making of this build

everyone does a different part I can only do my part
I cant even define that part yet it is moving and growing

Joe

#30 Post by **BÃ©Ã¨m** » Tue 13 Jul 2010, 23:11

I already found out to put the slaxer_pkg_tool eventually in an other directory where txz packages can be stored.

What I don't see, maybe missed the point, is where is there a repository and how can I connect to it if I have the need for a package.

gronos04 · #31 Post by **gronos04** » Tue 13 Jul 2010, 23:45

Hi Beem

Here is the slackware package search

http://slackfind.net/en/packages/search ... tversion=5

Warren

big_bass · #32 Post by **big_bass** » Wed 14 Jul 2010, 01:29

I uploaded the new iso the server is slow ATM for downloads
must be getting a lot of downloads at the same time
so I havent checked the md5sum on the download yet

if you have the 7-7-2010 iso you need this fix
http://www.puppy2.org/slaxer/mime-tgz-f ... 3_SLXR.txz

for the click on tgz package to install the 7-13-2010 has the fix built in

89f44e890470e19267f4cd329c5d29c0 TXZ_Pup-4.50-7-13-2010.iso

the next iso is called 7-13-2010 I post the link when I confirm the iso

if anyone confirmed the iso md5 let me know I'll try again tomorrow

Sylvander · #33 Post by **Sylvander** » Wed 14 Jul 2010, 07:52

Why is it that some of the recently released Puppies [including TXZ_Pup] won't boot on my 2002 hardware?

#34 Post by **BÃ©Ã¨m** » Wed 14 Jul 2010, 08:25

Because it boots on my 2002 hardware.

#35 Post by **BÃ©Ã¨m** » Wed 14 Jul 2010, 08:29

I have a usb connected HDD and a USB flash drive.
Some days ago I booted with the USB HDD connected and got the sda1-sda7 partitions (sda3 being the extended one)

Now I added the USB flash one which only has one partition.

The USB HDD became sdb1-sdb7 (sdb3 being the extended one)
So far so good.

But the USB flash was sda1-sda7, but only sda1 can be mounted as the others don't exist.

What is going on here?

big_bass · #36 Post by **big_bass** » Wed 14 Jul 2010, 12:50

Hey Béèm

check the first post for the new iso
the server is cooking fast now get it while you can

are you on the 7-7-2010 version or the 7-13-2010?

I wrote a simple mount tool
you manually unmount using the ROX unmount that is displayed in
the standard rox menu to keep things safe
remember this is a simple test

the "ok" also works as a refresh the list if you plug in
a USB while the xmounter2 script is running

just click on the script called xmounter2
its only one script

**the only reason I want you try this script is to see
if the other USB's get listed

since it uses a different method of checking than the puppy script

that will help me narrow down the problem

Joe

James C · #37 Post by **James C** » Thu 15 Jul 2010, 06:20

big_bass wrote:Let the Lobster do the explaining

I just downloaded and installed the talking Lobsters...........really neat.

big_bass · #38 Post by **big_bass** » Fri 16 Jul 2010, 03:32

why not have an updated seamonkey too
the kids say its faster for the flash games

seamonkey-2.0.5

seamonkey-2.0.5-i486-3_SLXR.txz
---> download_now

Joe

#39 Post by **BÃ©Ã¨m** » Fri 16 Jul 2010, 14:32

big_bass wrote:Hey Béèm

check the first post for the new iso
the server is cooking fast now get it while you can

are you on the 7-7-2010 version or the 7-13-2010?

Joe

I boosted the server so as to give me 500KB/sec.

I was on the 07.07.2010 and will switch to 07.13
I had the desktop drive icons redrawn and it is now as it should be.
So no worry about that issue.
Bernard

big_bass · #40 Post by **big_bass** » Fri 16 Jul 2010, 15:37

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