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big_bass


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PostPosted: Wed 07 Jul 2010, 15:42    Post_subject:  TXZ_pup 4.5
Sub_title: slackware package managment used		  
http://puppylinux.info/topic/txz
http://puppy2.org/slaxer/
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Jul 2010, 16:17    Post_subject:  
With a desktop background like that, I can't resist trying it! Smile
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Jul 2010, 20:18    Post_subject: txz_pup
Sub_title: great!		  
It's working great on the 10.5 year old puter. I like the sakura term, xmms, mplayer, and firefox additions. Packaging system is very slick.

Great work, Joe!
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Jul 2010, 23:27    Post_subject: speedy  
A speedy pup in this 900-mhz Pentium III ! Thanks, big_bass.

The first instance of X failed to show the taskbar and right-click menu. I exited to command prompt and redid xorgwizard, and they showed up, finally.

The drive icons from your setup still appeared in my desktop (a problem that also occurs in my remasters, I wonder how to prevent this).

(BTW, hardinfo says OS = Slackware 12.2.0, but /etc/puppyversion = 4.5. )
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Jul 2010, 23:47    Post_subject:  
Works really well in my old P3 (733 mhz/256 mb ram/1gb swap) test machine.

I just swapped in a bigger hdd, and cloned contents of the old drive, earlier today so when I saw this I did a quick frugal install.Looks really good so far, nice work. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu 08 Jul 2010, 10:13    Post_subject: Re: speedy  
raffy wrote:
A speedy pup in this 900-mhz Pentium III ! Thanks, big_bass.

The first instance of X failed to show the taskbar and right-click menu. I exited to command prompt and redid xorgwizard, and they showed up, finally.

The drive icons from your setup still appeared in my desktop (a problem that also occurs in my remasters, I wonder how to prevent this).

(BTW, hardinfo says OS = Slackware 12.2.0, but /etc/puppyversion = 4.5. )



Hey Raffy

Thanks for posting I did a last minute edit to the desktop and the modified globicon and PupyPin
got copied I manually did that so my error good thing its easy to fix I included the cleaned files in the attachment copy


over write the old files here with the new ones I attached *a tmp fix until I add it to the iso
/root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin
/root/Choices/ROX-Filer/globicons


/root/.config/rox.sourceforge.net/ROX-Filer/globicons



I'll fix that in the iso


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(BTW, hardinfo says OS = Slackware 12.2.0, but /etc/puppyversion = 4.5. )

Very Happy

*there are three nice skins for Mplayer you could change some surprises to find

thanks for the report

P.S I haven't been able to rest since I started using puppy I thought about another way to build it all the time starting with stripping it down with the fat free series then patching it up with slaxer pup in a progressive way
I set out a long time ago to get puppy to be more linux standardized
back to a basic simpler way there were too many changes
to too many things it became a full time job
thus TXZ pup came to be I could have called it version 6 because it has its own build system but it is also an advanced 4 series so 4.5 fits the name well

I finally achieved that personal goal and feel at peace (a really good feeling )
there are always things to fine tune but now this is a proof of concept

using an official package format and package management system
this will allow long term slackware users around the world to quickly adjust to building packages the way they know how and helping out



and still have the "extra ability" to install pets too Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu 08 Jul 2010, 12:59    Post_subject:  
Congratulations, Big_Bass!

Would you have a list of the main softwares handy?
Thanks in advance!
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PostPosted: Thu 08 Jul 2010, 13:30    Post_subject:  
Hey musher0
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Would you have a list of the main softwares handy?



clik on slaxer_pkg_tools2.2
then select view


==========some extra info thats important==================
all those packages keep a data base in /var/log/packages

and a history is saved of all the packages you check the dependencies in
/var/lib/pkgtool/dependencies

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PostPosted: Thu 08 Jul 2010, 15:24    Post_subject:  
Many thanks!
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PostPosted: Fri 09 Jul 2010, 11:06    Post_subject:  
Hello, again, Big_Bass.

Still exploring your new "slaxer_pup". Generally quite fine, but I got bogged down with the following:

Is it possible that some options of the wallpaper changer are not working properly? I couldn't get it to stretch my chosen backdrop. (I prefer forests over butterflies!) Smile Or maybe I understood something wrong.

I had to disable the clicks on background through ROX (first two ticks in "compatibility" options in ROX), and use the alternate ROX menu to stretch the background. And then of course restore ROX's options as they were to access jwm from the backdrop again.

Other misadventures with this:
* the new ROX wallpaper facility at the roscidus site doesn't work ( http://roscidus.com/desktop/Wallpaper ) in TXZ;
* TXZ froze even the ctrl+alt+backspace key combo when I tried to open the TeenPup 2010 sfs to import the old wallpaper app.

Oh, well, nothing's perfect! Shucks. Smile Rolling Eyes

On the positive side, I got conky 1.8 with qiv (!), as in puppy 3, and rox 2.10, to work properly.

Thanks in advance for any help or pointers
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PostPosted: Fri 09 Jul 2010, 13:01    Post_subject:  
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Is it possible that some options of the wallpaper changer are not working properly? I couldn't get it to stretch my chosen backdrop. (I prefer forests over butterflies!) Smile Or maybe I understood something wrong.




I liked the viewer part about the wallpaper setter later I'll look at the code seems easy to add a stretch button to it but its also easier to just resize the images too

1.)use mtpaint open the image you want
2.) select image
3.)scale canvas
4.) un check the Fix Aspect Ratio
5. resize according to your screen size 1024 x 768
6.save it /copy it to /usr/share/backgrounds


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I had to disable the clicks on background through ROX (first two ticks in "compatibility" options in ROX), and use the alternate ROX menu to stretch the background. And then of course restore ROX's options as they were to access jwm from the backdrop again.


that depends on python and ROX-LIB I compiled python also but thats a big dependency demand for such a small app not really practical unless you need python for some other app and its already installed better to use a simple viewer

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Other misadventures with this:
* the new ROX wallpaper facility at the roscidus site doesn't work ( http://roscidus.com/desktop/Wallpaper ) in TXZ;
* TXZ froze even the ctrl+alt+backspace key combo when I tried to open the TeenPup 2010 sfs to import the old wallpaper app.


the reason I went with the other wallpaper viewer was( I did try ) the packaged official wallpaper program is broken there may have been some manual tweaks to the "base" not the package and those tweaks got left out of the package I guess just a thought cant confirm that though

since its a small app better to fix the one that works


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PostPosted: Fri 09 Jul 2010, 13:42    Post_subject:  
Hi, Big_Bass.

Many thanks for your reply. Looking forward to your wallpaper utility update!

Still exploring TXZ,
1) I was wondering if you had a more recent version of Abiword up your sleeve Smile or where I can find the plugins for the Abiword 2.6.6 that's there. I really need the docx plugin to import recent Word docs.

2) Is there a devx package for TXZ, if I want to compile someting?

Again, great job!
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PostPosted: Fri 09 Jul 2010, 18:18    Post_subject:  
Altho looking attractive, doesn't work on my laptop.
I have the well known issue of the keyboard problem where f.e. the u i and o aren't accessible but give 4 5 6 etc..
In fact instead of the normal keys, I have the numeric keys like accessed in windows by the fn key.
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PostPosted: Fri 09 Jul 2010, 19:15    Post_subject:  
Isn't that just because 'numlock' is on by default? Try disabling the numberlock_on script in the Startup folder.
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PostPosted: Fri 09 Jul 2010, 20:18    Post_subject:  
When I had that issue, I think it was in some version of dpup.
If I remember well, it wasn't a simple matter of a numlock script, but it was indeed related to num lock.

I renamed the numberlock script and made it non-executable.

Indeed now the keyboard is behaving as it should.

But I wonder why a slaxer version like this (12.2). hda is introduced again. oops
There are already several versions of LightHouse, the latest 490
Barry just announced a slaxerpup. (slackware 13.2)

Maybe I miss some point, but the Puppy Package Manage only references puppy applications.
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