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Nathan Wallpaper Gone After Pwidgets

#1 Post by pascallj »

Hello Everybody,

After removing Pwidgets on my Lucid Puppy, the Nathan Wallpaper setter is gone. I can't click it in the menu, or run it via JWM -> Desktop -> Wallpaper.

So is there an easy way to restore it? There is now also that 'fade black' on the right side which is also really annoying.

I hope anyone has a solution.


Greetz,
Pascal

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#2 Post by pascallj »

Really quiet here,,,

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#3 Post by zigbert »

You can reinstall the original Wallpaper setter

ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributio ... -0.5.3.pet

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#4 Post by pascallj »

Nope, it's not that easy. I tried it (but then with the 0.5.5 version), and the icon in the menu is actually back but when I click it, it won't start.

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#5 Post by zigbert »

what's the output if you start 'wallpaper' from terminal?


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#6 Post by pascallj »

Oh thanks man! When I typed it into the terminal, it said something like missing English things. That reminded me, that I used the 'Trim the fat' option for the first time, didn't know what it's goal was, and just tried something.
So after reinstalling it Without using the 'Trim the fat' option. It worked.

Stupid mistake...

Btw, Wallpaper setter went directly through the directory /root/.pwidgets, which is also left after uninstalling pwidgets.So I can delete that too.

Thanks man, and maybe this will help other which are as stupid like me too :roll:

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#7 Post by zigbert »

Great to hear that everything works as it should

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Nathan Wallpaper Gone After Pwidgets

#8 Post by Sky Aisling »

Hello Zigbert,
I am running lupu-520 as a *full* install on a Compaq Presario 2100 with 256 RAM, Celeron 1.60GHz.

I *installed* PWidgets 2.3.1 using Puppy Package Manager.
I *uninstalled* PWidgets 2.3.1 (after trying it out) using Puppy Package Manager.

Now, Nathan Wallpaper is gone.

Here is what I tried to regain Nathan Wallpaper Settings:
Reboot - No success.
I placed
ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributio ... -0.5.3.pet
into address line of Firefox 3.6.13. No such directory.
I placed
ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributio ... -0.5.3.pet
into *find* box of Puppy Package Manager. Not found.
I placed *wallpaper* into terminal screen. No such directory.

Here are screenshots of:
User/share/applications
Terminal Entry *wallpaper*
Firefox address entry results
Puppy Package Manager Search Box entry results

What else can I do to regain Nathan Wallpaper Settings?

Thank you in advance for any assistance you can give.

Sky
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#9 Post by rjbrewer »

Sky:

"The curse of the widgets"

That's been a hazard with full installs since Puppy421 when the
widgees' first appeared.

Try booting the cd you used to install; rerun the full install and choose
"upgrade" instead of "wipe" on that partition.
No need to rerun grub.

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#10 Post by Sky Aisling »

Oh, Gasp!

That install is all fitted out ... customized after hours of work. :(

Perhaps we should rename *Widgets* to *Wedgies*!

Sky

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#11 Post by rjbrewer »

Sky Aisling wrote:Oh, Gasp!

That install is all fitted out ... customized after hours of work. :(

Perhaps we should rename *Widgets* to *Wedgies*!

Sky
Doing what I said fixes broken links and files and leaves the other
things I've installed alone for the most part.
Nowhere near as radical as replacing a frugal save file.

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#12 Post by Sky Aisling »

OK, thank you, rjbrewer. I'll give it a try, maybe in the morning...

If I run into install situations that require more questions on the forum, seems like I should find a different thread to post questions? Any suggestions for threads?
Or, because this relates to activity around PWidgets should I continue here?

Also, I suggest that PWidgets in Puppy Package Manager Description come with a warning label to those who have *full* installs.

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#13 Post by rjbrewer »

Sky Aisling wrote:OK, thank you, rjbrewer. I'll give it a try, maybe in the morning...

If I run into install situations that require more questions on the forum, seems like I should find a different thread to post questions? Any suggestions for threads?
Or, because this relates to activity around PWidgets should I continue here?

Also, I suggest that PWidgets in Puppy Package Manager Description come with a warning label to those who have *full* installs.
I have a Luci246 among my full installs. I'll go mess around with it and
let you know if I run into any upgrade install fix problems.

No need to switch threads at this point.

Edit:

Installed pwidgets on luci246.
Removed pwidgets in ppm.
Nathan had left the building. :)
Booted the 246 cd straight to desktop, changed nothing.
Ran full install to that partition, "upgrade".
Rebooted; Nathans back; everything is fine, nothing else changed.

I used to spend a lot of time hunting for missing files and broken
links, but this upgrade takes about 2 minutes so it's usually my
first option now when something breaks on a full install.

Edit:

The hunt and peck method.
In this particular case; removing pwidgets empties the folder
at usr/local/apps/wallpaper.

Mount the cd and its' lupu.sfs and copy its' wallpaper folder to the
above spot.

Inspiron 700m, Pent.M 1.6Ghz, 1Gb ram.
Msi Wind U100, N270 1.6>2.0Ghz, 1.5Gb ram.
Eeepc 8g 701, 900Mhz, 1Gb ram.
Full installs

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#14 Post by Sky Aisling »

rjbrewer writes:
Booted the 246 cd straight to desktop, changed nothing.
Ran full install to that partition, "upgrade".
So, I will use *Puppy Universal Installer* to run the Lucid- Puppy-520 *full* install (again)...
PUI tells me that Puppy 520 is installed on sda1: ext2 25.94 GiB.
My choice is to *install Puppy to sda1*.
Will a choice to *upgrade* be presented when I choose *install Puppy to sda1*?

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#15 Post by rjbrewer »

Sky Aisling wrote:rjbrewer writes:
Booted the 246 cd straight to desktop, changed nothing.
Ran full install to that partition, "upgrade".
So, I will use *Puppy Universal Installer* to run the Lucid- Puppy-520 *full* install (again)...
PUI tells me that Puppy 520 is installed on sda1: ext2 25.94 GiB.
My choice is to *install Puppy to sda1*.
Will a choice to *upgrade* be presented when I choose *install Puppy to sda1*?
Yes, the installer gives a choice between "wipe" the partition or
"upgrade".

My last edit above means it isn't necessary to run the reinstall;
just replace the missing file from the mounted cd. (doesn't need
to be booted) your choice, works both ways

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Nathan Wallpaper Gone After PWidgets

#16 Post by Sky Aisling »

rjbrewer writes:

The hunt and peck method.
In this particular case; removing pwidgets empties the folder
at usr/local/apps/wallpaper.

Mount the cd and its' lupu.sfs and copy its' wallpaper folder to the
above spot.
Works like a charm! Thank you, rjbrewer.

(Lot less stressful than doing a reinstall)

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Sky Aisling wrote:rjbrewer writes:

The hunt and peck method.
In this particular case; removing pwidgets empties the folder
at usr/local/apps/wallpaper.

Mount the cd and its' lupu.sfs and copy its' wallpaper folder to the
above spot.
Works like a charm! Thank you, rjbrewer.

(Lot less stressful than doing a reinstall)
It took longer for me to find the missing file than to do the upgrade
method, and I'm not completely sure whether pwidget had more
files dependent on it that were removed.

It's not a bad idea to make another little practice install.

There are a few widgets that I'm going to use now that it's not
a big deal anymore.

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#18 Post by Sky Aisling »

rjbrewer writes:
I'm not completely sure whether pwidget had more
files dependent on it that were removed.


Right! I wondered how I'd know if anything else was effected by PWidgets.
This may sound crazy but is there a way to do a *checksum* on a system when it closes down? Then the next time something like this happens and a repair is made a comparison could be made to make sure the system has same number of bytes as before the event?

OK, so later in the day, maybe...I'll experiment with second install *upgraded*.

:D

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#19 Post by rjbrewer »

Sky Aisling wrote:rjbrewer writes:
I'm not completely sure whether pwidget had more
files dependent on it that were removed.


Right! I wondered how I'd know if anything else was effected by PWidgets.
This may sound crazy but is there a way to do a *checksum* on a system when it closes down? Then the next time something like this happens and a repair is made a comparison could be made to make sure the system has same number of bytes as before the event?
different subject....different thread

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#20 Post by Sky Aisling »

rjbrewer writes:
There are a few widgets that I'm going to use now that it's not
a big deal anymore.
What's not "a big deal anymore?"

Is there a fix into PWidgets to correct this issue of deleting shared resource files in *full* installs when *uninstalling* PWidgets?
Edit: Actually, seems like the fix is needed in Puppy Package Manager not PWidgets. Other apps may also take out shared files when *uninstalled*. A table check of shared files seems in order when working with a *full* install? But, what do I know...
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