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#101 Post by ICPUG »

Thanks for the info Tazoc, re the Intel driver.

Here are the results of my further tests (with 5.0.0a).

My laptop has the Intel 855 chipset and a Synaptics touchpad.

Without any kernel boot parameters I get the black screen if I select choose XOrg autoconfigure or choose the intel driver. It eventually goes to the command line which allows recovery via the Xorgwizard and selection of vesa driver (nice touch Tazoc).

I setup my frugal install to have a kernel parameter i915.modeset=1

If I choose Probe from the Xorg setup it fails and you have to shut down the PC to recover.

If I choose XOrg autoconfigure it works! Also my touchpad allows me to tap a mouse click, which surprised me.

If I choose Xorg and choose intel it works. This time the touchpad does NOT allow me to tap a mouse click, as expected. Using the mouse config wizard I select enable touchpad tapping. I reboot. The xorg.conf file has changed so that maxtaptime is 220 BUT I still cannot tap a click. I appreciate this is not an intel driver problem. I just wanted to report that it would seem the xorg.conf is not being fully recognised (although it does have intel as its driver).

Summary:
1) With Intel855 you must have the kernel parameter i915.modeset=1 and you must autoconfigure Xorg or select the intel driver.
2) I still don't understand when Xorg uses an xorg.conf file and when it doesn't!

Note: i915.modeset=1 also gets Ubuntu 10.4 to boot up.

Tazoc - even though I have solved my problem without the need of the i810 driver i am still interested in where the drivers in the choose list are located and how the list is created - just so I understand the workings of this Puppy.

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#102 Post by Jim1911 »

Hi TazOC,

This is the output of the code you wanted to run. Still doesn't work and had to revert back to nv. The attached report was run before I ran xorgwizard again. I did use the ppm to uninstall the pet before I installed it again.

Hope this helps,
Jim

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For Console QuickStart type-> phelp <Enter>  Software versions-> ver <Enter>
<root> ~
bash-3.00# echo "`df -m / |tail -n1|tr -s ' ' | cut -d ' ' -f4`" MB Free
752 MB Free
<root> ~
bash-3.00# ls -Al /lib/modules/2.6.33.2/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10815854 2010-06-13 01:20 /lib/modules/2.6.33.2/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko
<root> ~
bash-3.00# lsmod | grep 'nvidia'
nvidia               9841383  0 
agpgart                19112  1 nvidia
i2c_core               11701  2 nvidia,i2c_i801
<root> ~
bash-3.00# depmod -a
<root> ~
bash-3.00# sync
<root> ~
bash-3.00# rmmod nouveau
ERROR: Module nouveau does not exist in /proc/modules
<root> ~
bash-3.00# rmmod ttm
ERROR: Module ttm does not exist in /proc/modules
<root> ~
bash-3.00# rmmod drm_kms_helper
ERROR: Module drm_kms_helper does not exist in /proc/modules
<root> ~
bash-3.00# rmmod drm
ERROR: Module drm does not exist in /proc/modules
<root> ~
bash-3.00# rmmod i2c_algo_bit
ERROR: Module i2c_algo_bit does not exist in /proc/modules
<root> ~
bash-3.00# rmmod agpgart
ERROR: Module agpgart is in use by nvidia
<root> ~
bash-3.00# modprobe agpgart
<root> ~
bash-3.00# modprobe i2c-core
<root> ~
bash-3.00# modprobe nvidia
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#103 Post by tazoc »

ICPUG wrote:Tazoc - even though I have solved my problem without the need of the i810 driver i am still interested in where the drivers in the choose list are located and how the list is created - just so I understand the workings of this Puppy.
Sure, xorgwizard scans the directories drivers, drivers-backup and drivers-alternate in /usr/lib/xorg/modules/. The code is in LHP's /usr/sbin/xorgwizard-puppy, search for my comment date code 100515 (YYMMDD).

LHP's xorgwizard is actually 3 files:

* xorgwizard the front end (text mode) menus for commonly used (Option 2 calls xorgwizard-puppy) and proprietary drivers (if installed) and an Options/Tools menu,

* xorgwizard-puppy, based on Woof/Quirky's xorgwizard and

* xorgwizard-puppy-alt (see below)

The Autoconfigure option in LHP's xorgwizard creates a skeleton xorg.conf with a hardware profile comment #PuppyHardwareProfile=${PROFILECHIP}${PROFILEMONITOR}" using the short script /usr/sbin/xorgwizard-puppy-alt from BK's blog a while back. With recent hardware Xorg will even start without any xorg.conf at all, though /usr/bin/xwin still checks for at least the skeleton file, and keyboard layouts and other input devices still need it to save their configuration. Proprietary drivers also need xorg.conf.
Jim1911 wrote:Hi TazOC,

This is the output of the code you wanted to run. Still doesn't work and had to revert back to nv. The attached report was run before I ran xorgwizard again. I did use the ppm to uninstall the pet before I installed it again.

Hope this helps,
Jim
Yes, the new X log in report-video-full indicated libwfb.so (from the NVIDIA package) failed to load. I rebuilt the pet with the version of that library from xorg-xserver. Should work now... crossing my fingers. :wink: I updated my earlier post with new links and more info.
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ATI Catalyst 10.6 driver PET for Lighthouse Pup 5.00

#104 Post by tazoc »

Here is the proprietary ATI Catalyst 10.6 driver PET package for Lighthouse Pup 5.00. Includes catalyst control center, full GLX/3D support and updated Lighthouse Video Wizard. Will not work in Quirky/Lucid or other Puppies as it was compiled with xorg-xserver 1.7.7 and mesa-7.8.1. Good idea to boot LHP with pfix=ram first to try it out with your hardware, especially if you have a full install.

You'll need at least 120M free space, and one of these Supported Chipsets to use the pet.

Be sure to backup your pupsave before installing this pet. Can be uninstalled with Puppy Package Manager, though it may be necessary to reboot when switching from the proprietary driver back to an Xorg driver.

ATI_Catalyst-10.6-LHP-k2.6.33.2-xserver-1.7.7.pet 34M md5.txt

Part of the size is 13M of Qt4 libs used by the CCC--which looks and feels more refined than it was in Catalyst 9.9. For me this Catalyst also fixed an annoying bug with the graphics in the Stellarium add-on when used with the Xorg radeon driver and DRI, so now I can enjoy Stellarium with hardware acceleration. :D

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#105 Post by Jim1911 »

Hi TazOC,

The new Nvidia driver is working great. It did trash my test save file, however, it worked great with a new save file. Nice that running xorgwizard will now provide the latest driver as a selection.

Thank you for this driver and all of the other cool software that you keep adding to Lighthouse.

Jim

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#106 Post by ICPUG »

Many, many thanks Tazoc for the explanation of the workings of Xorg wizard in LHP. That should keep me busy for a while in improving my education.

This LHP is going to be a fixture on my laptop now as the Puppy to use when you want a bit more than the basic Puppy (in my case Wine, Open Office and the ability to play as many video codecs as possible).

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wow

#107 Post by Q5sys »

so I take about a month off and i'm left in the dust. lol
Guess I need try to catch up on whats been done through the A version into the B version.
TazOC, any ideas on when the KDE expansion will be completed? A bunch of my apps use a ton of KDE libs, just looking forward to when I can jump in the deep end with v5 and splash around with it. :P
(no rush, just curious)

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Re: wow

#108 Post by tazoc »

Q5sys wrote:so I take about a month off and i'm left in the dust. lol
Guess I need try to catch up on whats been done through the A version into the B version.
TazOC, any ideas on when the KDE expansion will be completed? A bunch of my apps use a ton of KDE libs, just looking forward to when I can jump in the deep end with v5 and splash around with it. :P
(no rush, just curious)
Hi Q5sys,
Sure, I found that KDE 4 was unstable with the radeon Xorg driver, on my hardware, at least--and I wasn't sure if that was the cause or if something else amiss. But since I compiled the ATI Catalyst driver and switched over to it, KDE 4 is now very stable, even with desktop effects and shadows enabled. The last piece I've been working on is the latest Moblock IP range blocking packages, that work well with KDE. It requires an updated iptables which is in the base ISO. So I'm debugging LHP 5.00 C with hplip-3.9.12 HP Scanner Driver (thanks to Jim1911), iptables-1.4.7, libnl-1.1 (thanks to BK), Flash-10.1.53.64, atk-1.30.0, gslapt-0.5.3b, PPM from Spup 0.2, SeaMonkey 2.05 and a few bugfixes. I hope to release that next week and then Mariner and a large KDE 4.4.4 SFS with many updates.
-TazOC
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Re: wow

#109 Post by Q5sys »

tazoc wrote:Sure, I found that KDE 4 was unstable with the radeon Xorg driver, on my hardware, at least--and I wasn't sure if that was the cause or if something else amiss. But since I compiled the ATI Catalyst driver and switched over to it, KDE 4 is now very stable, even with desktop effects and shadows enabled. The last piece I've been working on is the latest Moblock IP range blocking packages, that work well with KDE. It requires an updated iptables which is in the base ISO. So I'm debugging LHP 5.00 C with hplip-3.9.12 HP Scanner Driver (thanks to Jim1911), iptables-1.4.7, libnl-1.1 (thanks to BK), Flash-10.1.53.64, atk-1.30.0, gslapt-0.5.3b, PPM from Spup 0.2, SeaMonkey 2.05 and a few bugfixes. I hope to release that next week and then Mariner and a large KDE 4.4.4 SFS with many updates.
-TazOC
Sweet, I'll work with than then and move forward. I compilied the newest intel driver for A... but that was back before we figured out the problem. Once I get C up and running I'll recompile it and if everything works smoothly, i'll upload it for everyone who is using Intel Gfx.

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intel driver compiling

#110 Post by tazoc »

Q5sys wrote:I compilied the newest intel driver for A... but that was back before we figured out the problem. Once I get C up and running I'll recompile it and if everything works smoothly, i'll upload it for everyone who is using Intel Gfx.
That sounds good, what website has the source you used? Was it http://intellinuxgraphics.org/install.html and http://xorg.freedesktop.org/archive/ind ... r/?C=M;O=D? If and when you recompile the Intel drivers it would be great if you could make a few notes to share in case you're away and we might want to repeat the task.
Thanks,
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Re: intel driver compiling

#111 Post by Q5sys »

tazoc wrote:That sounds good, what website has the source you used? Was it http://intellinuxgraphics.org/install.html and http://xorg.freedesktop.org/archive/ind ... r/?C=M;O=D? If and when you recompile the Intel drivers it would be great if you could make a few notes to share in case you're away and we might want to repeat the task.
Thanks,
TazOC
When I did it last time, I grabbed it from the Intel site, along with all of the requirements that the intel site said it needed (mesa, cairo, etc). Granted you already had mesa in A, but I went and did it anyway. This time I'll probably just try to do the driver only and see if it works well, then if it doesnt add in something and try again. That way its the smallest package possible and doesnt possibly introduce any issues into LHP.
So out of the list, what does LHP v5 already have?
3D driver: mesa 7.8.1 release
Libdrm: libdrm-2.4.20 release
Cairo: cairo-1.9.6 release
Clutter: clutter-1.2.4 release

I will have to go with the 2010 Q1 driver since the Q2 driver requires a 2.6.34 kernel.

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Re: intel driver compiling

#112 Post by tazoc »

Q5sys wrote:So out of the list, what does LHP v5 already have?
3D driver: mesa 7.8.1 release
Libdrm: libdrm-2.4.20 release
Cairo: cairo-1.9.6 release
Clutter: clutter-1.2.4 release

I will have to go with the 2010 Q1 driver since the Q2 driver requires a 2.6.34 kernel.
Libdrm-2.4.20 is fully in the base ISO.

LHP Base has all of mesa-7.8.1 except the huge dri modules in /usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri/. Those are in Mariner SFS except for the generic swrast_dri.so, which is in the Base ISO. So the full mesa requires the Mariner SFS due to size constraints.

Cairo is 1.8.8. Clutter is missing.

Pkg names and versions for the base ISO are in /initrd/pup_ro2/var/log/packages; open one with a text editor for description of pkg. Most pkgs currently installed, inc. SFS add-ons are in /var/log/packages. Gslapt shows these also.

Sidenote: In LHP 5C I'm including /bin/bash4, compiled by BarryK for testing. I edited /usr/bin/Console-LHP

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SHELL=/bin/bash4
to use bash4. So far it's OK now in Sakura. To switch everything to bash4.1, rename /bin/bash4 to /bin/bash. Please indicate if you have done that and found a bug with a script.
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#113 Post by drblock2 »

tazoc,

First let me thank you for the most impressive Puppy ever. Most of the discussion so far has understandably centered around getting X to work. I could report some adventures with this as well, but fundamentally, as soon as I added nomodeset to the kernel line in my grub menu, the display appeared and the rest was a question of adjusting things to my liking.

There are, however, two major bugs lingering on from earlier Pups. Here they are with solutions:

1. pnethood does not connect to a Windows XP share unless you type something (even one character) in the login name and password boxes. Shinobar created a fix for this:

http://208.109.22.214/puppy/viewtopic.p ... 5388963ba1

2. CUPS, even when installed from the Wizard, does not offer the option "Windows Printer via SAMBA". Without this, you will not be able to use a printer connected to a Windows machine via smb. Growler provided a sure-fire solution for Puppy 4.2.1. Copy /opt/samba/bin/smbspool to /usr/lib/cups/backend/smb. For reasons unknown, the link smb in /backend/ does not work. Delete it, copy smbspool and rename it "smb".

Now, you will be able to access remote files and print on a Windows server along with all the other wonderful features that work right out of the box.

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#114 Post by tazoc »

Hi drblock2,
Thank you for the feedback and helpful bug fixes. I will incorporate them into the next release, as I'm almost done uploading 5.00 C and am busy with web site updates. I've been working since early this morning and I'm beat... it looks like I won't be able to finish up this release today. :( I wish I could say it's already done, but it'll just have to wait until tomorrow.
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Lighthouse Pup 5.00 C released

#115 Post by tazoc »

Lighthouse Pup 5.00 C Base ISO

* Abiword, Gnumeric, SeaMonkey, Flash plugin and Transmission updated
* Added hplip-3.9.12 HP Scanner Driver (thanks to Jim1911) and ttf-thai-arundina (Thai font rendering).

Mariner ISO 5.00 C

* Base ISO plus Mariner, Xfce, OpenOffice, Opera and VirtualBox SFS add-ons.
* Mariner SFS updated to 5C_490; (others unchanged)
updated Firefox 3.6.6, JavaRE-6u20 and added wqy-zenhei free font (Asian font rendering)

KDE 4.4.4 C SFS

* KDE 4.4.4 plus Amarok 2.3.1b1, K3b Disc Burning, KDE Edu pack
* Interactive globe wallpaper
* Updated CdKase and Sidebar desktop applets
* Alternative Plasma Netbook interface

If you experience a slowdown or freeze in KDE, disable Desktop Effects: System Settings | Desktop | Desktop Effects | uncheck Enable Desktop Effects | Apply | Close & restart X. Do the same if CdKase or Sidebar's background is washed out or bright.

-TazOC
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#116 Post by Jim1911 »

Hi TazOC,

Your new Lighthouse Pup 5.00 C is really superb. The auto-setup is flawless with my system. All that was necessary for a complete setup was to install your nvidia 195 pet and setup my HP printer. CUPS detected it properly and the scanner works without any extra setup.

Minor oversight, Bibletime is missing these dependencies in the current sfs: libgssapi-krb5.so.2, libkrb5.so.3, libk5crypto.so.3, libkeyutils.so.1, libkrb5support.so.0, libkutils.so.1 which were probably in your older KDE sfs. Also, BibleTime 2.7 was just released, so you may want to update it when you add the missing dependencies. Thanks for adding e-Sword to the WBAR setup.

Although, KDE is loaded, I haven’t tried it yet, having too much fun exploring the other features. :lol:

Thanks again for another excellent distribution,
Jim :D

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What does this installation note really mean?

#117 Post by gcmartin »

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What does this installation note really mean?

#118 Post by gcmartin »

Can anyone provide an example of this instruction for Lighthouse installation.
On the Lighthouse website at this location ===> http://www.lhpup.org/tips-lhp.htm#Installation
One of the notes is
Note 2: All files except for the last (extra SFS files) can be placed in a directory one level deep so that multiple installs can be placed in the same partition.
Above the note, the paragraph is talking about folder /mnt/Home. I need help understanding what is meant by this note.
  1. Can anyone supply an example of the folder that this should reside in?
    AND
  2. Is the mention of "extra SFS files" referring to the line 'Optional: SFS files e.g., 5-LHP-Mar-4f_443.sfs'?
It occurs that a excerpt of the discussion from that website would be appropriate, here: So...

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After rebooting into your newly saved Lighthouse environment, click on the Pmount Drives icon on the desktop or Wbar launcher, and the 'Mount' button for your CD/DVD drive. A window should open showing the files below. Then click on the File System icon, click on 'mnt' and 'home'. Drag and drop the following files from the Lighthouse CD-Rom to this /mnt/home folder (where the spupsave.3fs file is located.) When prompted to copy or move the files, select copy. This is the recommended Frugal Install:

    * spup-nnn.sfs (where nnn is the version e.g., spup-480.sfs)
    * initrd.gz
    * vmlinuz
    * click-to-verify-lhp or click-to-verify-mariner
    * Optional: SFS files e.g., 5-LHP-Mar-4f_443.sfs

Note 2: All files except for the last (extra SFS files) can be placed in a directory one level deep so that multiple installs can be placed in the same partition. This is ideal when using a GRUB bootloader (Menu | System | Utility | GRUB Bootloader Config.)
Lastly, if I wanted to do a 2nd installation of a different version (from iso), what would I do differently?

Thanks in advance for your explanation(s)

gcmartin

Boot failure - Downloaded Mariner ISO and burned to CD

#119 Post by gcmartin »

This may be a common problem, but I've got it again. This is what I did leading up to the problem
  1. Downloaded Mariner 5.00C ISO and the md5 file as well.
  2. I md5sum the ISO and it matches with the md5 file.
  3. Burned ISO to a blanked CDRW.
I'm getting boot failures on each PC I attempt. What does the LAST message, in the list below, really mean? Messages are

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Loading drivers needed to access disk drives ...	done
Locating main file and session files...	done
 Loading spup-490.sfs (sr0)
 MinRAM to copy: 413M free RAM: 1772M... copying to ram..........	done
Setting up the layered filesystem...	done
Performing a 'switch_root' to the layered filesystem...Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
The systems stopped at the last message above with a flashing cursor.

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Re: What does this installation note really mean?

#120 Post by Jim1911 »

gcmartin wrote:Can anyone provide an example of this instruction for Lighthouse installation.
On the Lighthouse website at this location ===> http://www.lhpup.org/tips-lhp.htm#Installation
One of the notes is
Note 2: All files except for the last (extra SFS files) can be placed in a directory one level deep so that multiple installs can be placed in the same partition.
Above the note, the paragraph is talking about folder /mnt/Home. I need help understanding what is meant by this note.
  1. Can anyone supply an example of the folder that this should reside in?
mnt/home refers to the partition that the pup is installed on and is the only partition that must be mounted on bootup. For example on partition sda2 on my computer I have multiple frugal pups installed each in it's own directory.

mnt/home or the sda2 partition, is the root level where all extra sfs files should be placed except the base distribution sfs file. Extra SFS files for all pups can be located here and they will not be loaded unless specified to be loaded by the Boot Manager.

mnt/home/Lighthouse is a directory one level deep, this directory must contain the Lighthouse files including the base sfs file which for the latest version is spup-490.sfs.

mnt/home/Lucid is another directory one level deep and includes the base sfs file luci-207 along with the other Lucid files

You may add as many pups as you like without them interfering with each other as you have available space.

An example menu.lst entry is:

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Linux bootable partition config begins
  title Lighthouse  (on /dev/sda2)
  root (hd0,1)
  kernel /Lighthouse/vmlinuz pmedia=satahd pfix=fsck pdev1=sda2 psubdir=Lighthouse
  initrd /Lighthouse/initrd.gz
# Linux bootable partition config ends

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