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#141 Post by jemimah »

DC wrote:xorgwizard screen lists the laptop resolution with the option of more which then lists all resolutions.
also affects windows zooming to full screen. they only zoom to laptop resolution and top left of screen.
That is a JWM bug/feature. I suspect you won't have that problem with any other window manager.
DC wrote: Is the fluppy way easy to transfer to other puppies?
I'm not doing anything special. I just copied Xorg, xorgwizard, and xwin from Quirky and fixed all the problems that doing that introduced. It's fairly surprising that that worked at all. What is different is that all the supporting libs and binaries are still mostly 4.3.1 versions.

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#142 Post by jemimah »

JustGreg wrote:Yes, xvesa in Fluppy does show the "standard" vesa modes. I kept trying the listed modes until I found the highest resolution that work and looked good.

I was hoping to find all modes including the non-standard ones that might be in BIOS. It might be possible to get 1366 by 768 mode (if present) used by many laptops. I will keep looking! Thank you for the reply
The problem, at least with Intel, is that the BIOS maker didn't bother to put the correct resolutions into the BIOS in the first place.

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#143 Post by DC »

re:- terminal window

Can not open a terminal window from a rox window
With either - right click / window / terminal here
or back tic key.

maybe something to do with xterm not installed ?

DC

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changed rox/options/menus/behaviour/terminal emulator program to rxvt
now opens a rxvt terminal with "right click / window / terminal here" or back tic key

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#144 Post by gerry »

Using Fluppy 002 on my Acer Aspire One. I installed Firefox 3.6.3, because my ISP's webmail doesn't work properly with Chrome. "We're working on it." I just downloaded the tar file from Firefox, and followed the instructions. Firefox did not get added to the menu, but I've changed the "Browse" icon to point to FF.

One thing that is bugging me is that in ROX, when I left click on a folder icon, the folder does not open. I can't see anything in "Options" to change this- how do I change it?

gerry

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#145 Post by jemimah »

To change it back to single-click, go into the Rox Options->Filer Windows and click Single Click navigation.

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#146 Post by rjbrewer »

Fluppy; faster than "Flipper"! :)

Inspiron 700m, Pent.M 1.6Ghz, 1Gb ram.
Msi Wind U100, N270 1.6>2.0Ghz, 1.5Gb ram.
Eeepc 8g 701, 900Mhz, 1Gb ram.
Full installs

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#147 Post by JustGreg »

I finally got a complete listing of all the video modes supported by
Nviida Ion chipset in Fluppy002. I used ddcprobe. Here is the output:

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vbe: VESA 3.0 detected.
oem: NVIDIA
vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
product: MCP79 Board - hornet-0 Chip Rev
memory: 14336kb
mode: 640x400x256
mode: 640x480x256
mode: 800x600x16
mode: 800x600x256
mode: 1024x768x16
mode: 1024x768x256
mode: 1280x1024x16
mode: 1280x1024x256
mode: 320x200x64k
mode: 320x200x16m
mode: 640x480x64k
mode: 640x480x16m
mode: 800x600x64k
mode: 800x600x16m
mode: 1024x768x64k
mode: 1024x768x16m
mode: 1280x1024x64k
mode: 1280x1024x16m
edid: 
edid: 1 3
id: 1900
eisa: AOC1900
serial: 000017d1
manufacture: 36 2008
input: sync on green, analog signal.
screensize: 41 23
gamma: 2.200000
dpms: RGB, active off, no suspend, no standby
timing: 720x400@70 Hz (VGA 640x400, IBM)
timing: 720x400@88 Hz (XGA2)
timing: 640x480@60 Hz (VGA)
timing: 640x480@67 Hz (Mac II, Apple)
timing: 640x480@72 Hz (VESA)
timing: 640x480@75 Hz (VESA)
timing: 800x600@60 Hz (VESA)
timing: 800x600@75 Hz (VESA)
timing: 832x624@75 Hz (Mac II)
timing: 1024x768@87 Hz Interlaced (8514A)
timing: 1024x768@70 Hz (VESA)
timing: 1024x768@75 Hz (VESA)
timing: 1280x1024@75 (VESA)
ctiming: 640x640@70
ctiming: 1024x768@72
dtiming: 1366x768@69
dtiming: 1360x768@70
monitorrange: 30-81, 55-75
monitorname: F19
One of the things that I found out was the Xvesa driver provided more
more of the vesa bios mode than the xorg standard vesa driver. Xvesa
would give all th listed resolutions from 640 to 1280. The 1280x1024
looks fairly good and is better than 1024x768. The standard xorgwizard
detected and listed all the modes, including 1360x768. However the
standard xorg vesa driver would not support the 1360x768, only 640x480, 800x600 or 1024x768. Checking
xorg log listed the following:

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(II) VESA(0): Modeline "1360x768"   85.50  1360 1424 1536 1792  768 771 777 795 +hsync +vsync
However, at the end of the log, one gets:

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(II) VESA(0): Not using mode "1360x768" (no mode of this name)
I tried to manually insert the Modeline for "1360x768" in both the
monitor section and the modes section per the man page of xorg.conf.
However, the xorg vesa driver would not go into that mode.

To get the maximum resolution of the Ion chipset, either one has to use
the official Nvidia driver or come up with hack for the vesa driver similar
to 915resolutionfix. I will keep looking, but, so far no luck.
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#148 Post by JustGreg »

I guess the changes of Fluppy 003 fixed the xorg.conf problem. I found using the nv driver allows the Ion chipset to produce 1360x768. The nvidia driver does not work. This is the opposite of what I found with Lucid and Quirky, nv driver had problems there. But, it does work. I am posting this with Fluppy 003. Thanks, jemimah for the new version. It does look nice now. I do like the Haku Pup icon set.
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#149 Post by jemimah »

Can you check if the nvidia kernel module loaded? Or did the nv module load?

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#150 Post by JustGreg »

Hi jemimah,

I have 1360x768 video resolution using the xorg nv driver. The nvidia (provided) kernel object is in the kernel per the listing from lsmod. But, the provided nvidia xorg driver does not work. Glxgears gives a frame rate of 72 to 80 frames per second. It is interesting.

I will have another go at installing the latest (195.33.24) nvidia package. If I have any luck, I will post a pet.
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#151 Post by JustGreg »

I tried again to compile the nvidia latest official package. It failed. Here are the major errors from the installer log.

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-> The CC version check failed:
   
   The compiler used to compile the kernel (gcc 4.4) does not exactly match the
   current compiler (gcc 4.2).  The Linux 2.6 kernel module loader rejects 
   kernel modules built with a version of gcc that does not exactly match 
   that of the compiler used to build the running kernel.

-> Kernel module compilation complete.
ERROR: Unable to load the kernel module 'nvidia.ko'.  This happens most
       frequently when this kernel module was built against the wrong or
       improperly configured kernel sources, with a version of gcc that differs
       from the one used to build the target kernel, or if a driver such as
       rivafb/nvidiafb is present and prevents the NVIDIA kernel module from
       obtaining ownership of the NVIDIA graphics device(s), or NVIDIA GPU
       installed in this system is not supported by this NVIDIA Linux graphics
       driver release.

-> Kernel module load error: insmod: error inserting './usr/src/nv/nvidia.ko':
   -1 Unknown symbol in module
   nvidia: disagrees about version of symbol pci_enable_device
   nvidia: Unknown symbol pci_enable_device
   nvidia: disagrees about version of symbol pci_enable_msi_block
   nvidia: Unknown symbol pci_enable_msi_block
   nvidia: disagrees about version of symbol pci_get_device
   nvidia: Unknown symbol pci_get_device
   nvidia: disagrees about version of symbol pci_disable_msi
   nvidia: Unknown symbol pci_disable_msi
   nvidia: no symbol version for preempt_schedule
   nvidia: Unknown symbol preempt_schedule
   nvidia: no symbol version for _raw_spin_unlock_irq
   nvidia: Unknown symbol _raw_spin_unlock_irq
   nvidia: disagrees about version of symbol pci_set_master
   nvidia: Unknown symbol pci_set_master
   nvidia: disagrees about version of symbol pci_get_class
   nvidia: Unknown symbol pci_get_class  
I first add the puppy 508 kernel configuration. Second ran "make prepare" and then ran nividia installer package. Any thoughts would be appreciated. However, Fluppy 003 nv driver does work.
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#152 Post by 106498 »

hi Jemimah,

Thanks for making fluppy! All the essentials are working great on my toshiba nb200 so far, the first successfull puppy!

A little problem that I've noticed. In the acpi-control i assume the brightness tab is to set the screen brightness associated with each cpu mode. Only the one for powersave works though. (As in, I can't tell whether the cpu is doing its thing, or the fan. But I can tell the brightness isn't changing when changing cpu modes.)

Also the function keys for changing the volume don't work.

Not huge deals but maybe you know whats going on.

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you tube downloader

#153 Post by timremy »

hello

can anyone help me. when i use the you2pup you tube downloader, i get a message "bad address "youtube.com".

should i download some other pet to get it to work?

thank you

timremy

aarf

Re: you tube downloader

#154 Post by aarf »

timremy wrote:hello

can anyone help me. when i use the you2pup you tube downloader, i get a message "bad address "youtube.com".

should i download some other pet to get it to work?

thank you

timremy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59sZj76gzQM
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if you use opera to view the video the flashxxxx will be in /tmp but you will need gnomeplayer (in quirky) to view it.
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#155 Post by timremy »

hello aarf

maybe i mis worded my post. i can watch youtube videos.

when i use the youtube downloader, it does not download. it

gives the message "bad address" and then shuts down.

when i use another puppy version, like bruno pup, it works.

thank you.

timremy

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#156 Post by aarf »

take a screen shot of just before you click the download and post it here.
the above screenshot works for me in fluppy03

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you2pup

#157 Post by timremy »

hello aarf

you got me on that one. where is the screen shot button in fluppy 3?

timremy

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#158 Post by 106498 »

Screenshot is in graphic - mtpaint-snapshot.

Just noticed the icon changers changes the icons on the desktop but not those in the menu. In either Icewm or openbox/rox.
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youtube

#159 Post by timremy »

hello aarf

everything is ok. thank you.

i just go to a version that works for me.

right now i use 431.1 to cloud and youtube

downloader works.

maybe my system.

thanks again

timremy

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screen shot

#160 Post by timremy »

hello 106498

thank you for screen shot help.

you got a number for a name, why?

none of my business, but i thought i would ask.

no hard feelings ok.

timremy

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