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Roy

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PostPosted: Thu 17 Jun 2010, 01:17    Post_subject:  

jemimah,

Just now got to a Windows machine to test Fluppy003 -- bootinst.sh didn't work for my thumbdrive (using Linux).

I am not seeing any wireless access points... oh wait... I think I see why. If you look at the b43 folder now located in /lib/firmware/, you will notice that the next level down in that b43 directory is a directory named 'lib' -- and inside that directory is a directory called 'firmware' -- and inside that directory is the base b43 directory. So the base directory located at /lib/firmware/b43/lib/firmware/b43 really should be /lib/firmware/b43. Might also need the tar.gz in /lib/modules/all-firmware to function, although this is a personal gut feeling rather than a firm statement ATM. Does the b43.tar.gz have to be in /lib/modules/all-firmware to register or something? I seem to recall an issue with an earlier kernel where the tar.gz was supposed to automatically extract from /lib/modules/all-firmware to /lib/firmware/ .... or something to that effect. Maybe I don't know enough about it.

The good news is that creating a 128MB save file on the thumbdrive did not wipe out the ability to reboot this time around.

Let me play with this a bit longer....

-Roy

EDIT: dmesg is still telling me
Code:
b43-phy0: Loading firmware version 410.2160 (2007-05-26 15:32:10)
b43-phy0 ERROR: Fatal DMA error: 0x00000400, 0x00000000, 0x00000000, 0x00000000
b43-phy0 ERROR: This device does not support DMA on your system. Please use PIO instead.
b43-phy0 ERROR: CONFIG_B43_FORCE_PIO must be set in your kernel configuration.
#


All of the above is with a Dell Mini-9 and stock broadcom 4312 wireless card.
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DC


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Location: Maidenhead, England

PostPosted: Thu 17 Jun 2010, 04:15    Post_subject:  

re:- full screen video, 20" screen plugged into laptop

fluppy 003 vs lucid 204 ( and other 431 puppies)

fluppy 003 xorgwizard screen lists all resolutions.

lucid 204 xorgwizard screen lists the laptop resolution with the option of more which then lists all resolutions.
also affects windows zooming to full screen. they only zoom to laptop resolution and top left of screen.

It seems to be in the initial detection of the screen or available choices. Problem is trying to automatically choose screen resolutions for new uses vs possible resolutions available.

Is the fluppy way easy to transfer to other puppies?

DC
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DC


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PostPosted: Thu 17 Jun 2010, 04:34    Post_subject:  

are the devx and kernel sources available for compiling ?

DC
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jemimah


Joined: 26 Aug 2009
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Location: Tampa, FL

PostPosted: Thu 17 Jun 2010, 09:48    Post_subject:  

DC wrote:
are the devx and kernel sources available for compiling ?

DC


Yes. I just updated the first post with links. Smile
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jemimah


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PostPosted: Thu 17 Jun 2010, 09:51    Post_subject:  

Roy wrote:


EDIT: dmesg is still telling me
Code:
b43-phy0: Loading firmware version 410.2160 (2007-05-26 15:32:10)
b43-phy0 ERROR: Fatal DMA error: 0x00000400, 0x00000000, 0x00000000, 0x00000000
b43-phy0 ERROR: This device does not support DMA on your system. Please use PIO instead.
b43-phy0 ERROR: CONFIG_B43_FORCE_PIO must be set in your kernel configuration.
#



I didn't recompile the module yet. But what's odd is that it supposedly works on Quirky with the current configuration. I'll probably have a go at compiling the wl module.
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jemimah


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PostPosted: Thu 17 Jun 2010, 09:56    Post_subject:  

DC wrote:
xorgwizard screen lists the laptop resolution with the option of more which then lists all resolutions.
also affects windows zooming to full screen. they only zoom to laptop resolution and top left of screen.

That is a JWM bug/feature. I suspect you won't have that problem with any other window manager.

DC wrote:

Is the fluppy way easy to transfer to other puppies?


I'm not doing anything special. I just copied Xorg, xorgwizard, and xwin from Quirky and fixed all the problems that doing that introduced. It's fairly surprising that that worked at all. What is different is that all the supporting libs and binaries are still mostly 4.3.1 versions.
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jemimah


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PostPosted: Thu 17 Jun 2010, 09:59    Post_subject:  

JustGreg wrote:
Yes, xvesa in Fluppy does show the "standard" vesa modes. I kept trying the listed modes until I found the highest resolution that work and looked good.

I was hoping to find all modes including the non-standard ones that might be in BIOS. It might be possible to get 1366 by 768 mode (if present) used by many laptops. I will keep looking! Thank you for the reply


The problem, at least with Intel, is that the BIOS maker didn't bother to put the correct resolutions into the BIOS in the first place.
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DC


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PostPosted: Fri 18 Jun 2010, 04:31    Post_subject:  

re:- terminal window

Can not open a terminal window from a rox window
With either - right click / window / terminal here
or back tic key.

maybe something to do with xterm not installed ?

DC

edit
changed rox/options/menus/behaviour/terminal emulator program to rxvt
now opens a rxvt terminal with "right click / window / terminal here" or back tic key
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gerry

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PostPosted: Fri 18 Jun 2010, 10:21    Post_subject:  

Using Fluppy 002 on my Acer Aspire One. I installed Firefox 3.6.3, because my ISP's webmail doesn't work properly with Chrome. "We're working on it." I just downloaded the tar file from Firefox, and followed the instructions. Firefox did not get added to the menu, but I've changed the "Browse" icon to point to FF.

One thing that is bugging me is that in ROX, when I left click on a folder icon, the folder does not open. I can't see anything in "Options" to change this- how do I change it?

gerry
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jemimah


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PostPosted: Fri 18 Jun 2010, 11:10    Post_subject:  

To change it back to single-click, go into the Rox Options->Filer Windows and click Single Click navigation.
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rjbrewer


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PostPosted: Fri 18 Jun 2010, 12:52    Post_subject:  

Fluppy; faster than "Flipper"! Smile
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JustGreg

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PostPosted: Fri 18 Jun 2010, 20:42    Post_subject:
Sub_title: Nvidia Ion Chipset Modes
 

I finally got a complete listing of all the video modes supported by
Nviida Ion chipset in Fluppy002. I used ddcprobe. Here is the output:
Code:
vbe: VESA 3.0 detected.
oem: NVIDIA
vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
product: MCP79 Board - hornet-0 Chip Rev
memory: 14336kb
mode: 640x400x256
mode: 640x480x256
mode: 800x600x16
mode: 800x600x256
mode: 1024x768x16
mode: 1024x768x256
mode: 1280x1024x16
mode: 1280x1024x256
mode: 320x200x64k
mode: 320x200x16m
mode: 640x480x64k
mode: 640x480x16m
mode: 800x600x64k
mode: 800x600x16m
mode: 1024x768x64k
mode: 1024x768x16m
mode: 1280x1024x64k
mode: 1280x1024x16m
edid:
edid: 1 3
id: 1900
eisa: AOC1900
serial: 000017d1
manufacture: 36 2008
input: sync on green, analog signal.
screensize: 41 23
gamma: 2.200000
dpms: RGB, active off, no suspend, no standby
timing: 720x400@70 Hz (VGA 640x400, IBM)
timing: 720x400@88 Hz (XGA2)
timing: 640x480@60 Hz (VGA)
timing: 640x480@67 Hz (Mac II, Apple)
timing: 640x480@72 Hz (VESA)
timing: 640x480@75 Hz (VESA)
timing: 800x600@60 Hz (VESA)
timing: 800x600@75 Hz (VESA)
timing: 832x624@75 Hz (Mac II)
timing: 1024x768@87 Hz Interlaced (8514A)
timing: 1024x768@70 Hz (VESA)
timing: 1024x768@75 Hz (VESA)
timing: 1280x1024@75 (VESA)
ctiming: 640x640@70
ctiming: 1024x768@72
dtiming: 1366x768@69
dtiming: 1360x768@70
monitorrange: 30-81, 55-75
monitorname: F19

One of the things that I found out was the Xvesa driver provided more
more of the vesa bios mode than the xorg standard vesa driver. Xvesa
would give all th listed resolutions from 640 to 1280. The 1280x1024
looks fairly good and is better than 1024x768. The standard xorgwizard
detected and listed all the modes, including 1360x768. However the
standard xorg vesa driver would not support the 1360x768, only 640x480, 800x600 or 1024x768. Checking
xorg log listed the following:
Code:
(II) VESA(0): Modeline "1360x768"   85.50  1360 1424 1536 1792  768 771 777 795 +hsync +vsync

However, at the end of the log, one gets:
Code:
(II) VESA(0): Not using mode "1360x768" (no mode of this name)


I tried to manually insert the Modeline for "1360x768" in both the
monitor section and the modes section per the man page of xorg.conf.
However, the xorg vesa driver would not go into that mode.

To get the maximum resolution of the Ion chipset, either one has to use
the official Nvidia driver or come up with hack for the vesa driver similar
to 915resolutionfix. I will keep looking, but, so far no luck.

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JustGreg

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PostPosted: Sat 19 Jun 2010, 22:21    Post_subject:
Sub_title: Upgraded to Fluppy003, 1360x768 works!
 

I guess the changes of Fluppy 003 fixed the xorg.conf problem. I found using the nv driver allows the Ion chipset to produce 1360x768. The nvidia driver does not work. This is the opposite of what I found with Lucid and Quirky, nv driver had problems there. But, it does work. I am posting this with Fluppy 003. Thanks, jemimah for the new version. It does look nice now. I do like the Haku Pup icon set.
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PostPosted: Sun 20 Jun 2010, 12:15    Post_subject:  

Can you check if the nvidia kernel module loaded? Or did the nv module load?
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JustGreg

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PostPosted: Sun 20 Jun 2010, 13:53    Post_subject:
Sub_title: Fluppy 003 and Nvidia Ion Chipset
 

Hi jemimah,

I have 1360x768 video resolution using the xorg nv driver. The nvidia (provided) kernel object is in the kernel per the listing from lsmod. But, the provided nvidia xorg driver does not work. Glxgears gives a frame rate of 72 to 80 frames per second. It is interesting.

I will have another go at installing the latest (195.33.24) nvidia package. If I have any luck, I will post a pet.

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