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2.14x
11
29%
2.14x
4
11%
2.14x
11
29%
Other: 2.14x only
12
32%
 
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yorkiesnorkie
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#3601 Post by yorkiesnorkie »

James C wrote:The iso file on my hard drive is 118,360 Kb as well, just checked 30 seconds ago, and when I mouseover it shows 115 mb. Difference between kb and mb and rounding off...... :lol:

I concur with Aitch, it could be the burning speed.

I generally try to burn as slow as possible,usually 4X , however I recently changer burner drive and anything I burned at 4X was a coaster........started burning at 16x and the discs boot again. Just a thought. :)
Ok, I ran the md5sum again:

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# md5sum 214X-RC5.iso
ccb062095518592f1917bd6a72c17464  214X-RC5.iso
It matches! Therefore the iso must be good? Your filesize is the same as mine so...

I guess we can't rule out bad burns and lousy media, what should I expect for 99 cents? I'll try a burn at a higher speed than 4x and report back here tomorrow.

y.
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zilch...

#3602 Post by yorkiesnorkie »

Hi,
  • I downloaded the rc5 iso on our desktop, which is running a frugal install of 4.3.1
    I downloaded the iso file to an ext2 partition we have.
    I ran md5sum, it checks out.
    I burned the cd at 8x, checked it, its a good burn
As if to justify the existance of Gremlins the live CD will not boot on my laptop which has a 4x/8x cdrom. I just get the same error.
Gremlin => :twisted: - see the little %$##@* laughing at me.

I don't understand this, the laptop will boot a 4.3.1 CD which was made using the exact same process... It defies logic.

Anyway, I ran out of time and my spouse's patience for now :wink: , (I got one of those what are you doing looks) but when I get a chance I'll give the same live CD a try in the desktop.

Until later...

y.
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#3603 Post by dejan555 »

Hey ttuuxxx, I'm running your latest RC atm on this PC which is relatively new but it's onboard intel gfx freezes with newer puppies so I thought I might try how it works on 2.x series. Well, strange bit is I made frugal install manually on ntfs partition with grub 4 dos and booted it copied to ram but upon boot it used almost all of memory - I had about 20 MB left out of 256 MB? And now have only 4.2 MB left

Is this grub entry ok

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title 214

kernel (hd0,0)/214/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 psubdir=214 pfix=ram

initrd (hd0,0)/214/initrd.gz 

puppy.b0x.me stuff mirrored [url=https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_Mb589v0iCXNnhSZWRwd3R2UWs]HERE[/url] or [url=http://archive.org/details/Puppy_Linux_puppy.b0x.me_mirror]HERE[/url]

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Hugh
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Classic Pup 2.14X-RC5

#3604 Post by Hugh »

There is something about my 'older' machine
that doesn't like the RC5 CD as well. After
numerous attempts to 'boot live' it was
necessary to manually install the needed
files to a hard drive partition and boot up
with Grub. Problems solved!

Be sure, however, that any existing pup_save
files on your system are disabled by re-naming;
RC5 will hunt them down and use anything it
finds that resembles a likely candidate! Once
you've created a proper pup_save following
your initial session then there'll be no further
problem with its 'grabbing' the wrong one.

Using RC5 now to create this posting and it
is working splendidly. Again, my hat is off to
ttuuxxx and the gang for their excellent work!
Various Old Computers 100MHz - 1.9GHz
First Puppy: 2.00 Presently: TahrPup 6.0.3
HDD Filesystem: FAT32/ext3; Frugal Always

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#3605 Post by sinc »

dejan555 wrote:Hey ttuuxxx, I'm running your latest RC atm on this PC which is relatively new but it's onboard intel gfx freezes with newer puppies so I thought I might try how it works on 2.x series. Well, strange bit is I made frugal install manually on ntfs partition with grub 4 dos and booted it copied to ram but upon boot it used almost all of memory - I had about 20 MB left out of 256 MB? And now have only 4.2 MB left

Is this grub entry ok

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title 214

kernel (hd0,0)/214/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 psubdir=214 pfix=ram

initrd (hd0,0)/214/initrd.gz 

dejan, try to put the distro files in /mnt/home and take psubdir out of grub. then if you create a save file use a grub stanza sort of like this

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title	2.14X
rootnoverify	(hd0,4)
kernel	/214X/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 SFSFILE=ext3,hdc5,/214X/pup_214X.sfs ZDRV=ext3,hdc5/214X/zdrv_214X.sfs PUPSAVE=ext3,hdc5,/214X/pup_save.3fs
initrd	/214X/initrd.gz
I'm not sure if that will solve the issue for you but since you were asking about grub thats pretty much how we have to use it with 214x. I have never been able to boot with the psubdir command at all.

hope that helps at all.

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#3606 Post by wdm »

Is there a OpenOffice 3 or later .sfs for 214X? I know that sullysat has OpenOffice3.1.1.pet on his site but since I use a frugal install I would like to use a .sfs. So far I have not found anything later than OpenOffice2.3.1.sfs that will run on 214X.

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#3607 Post by sinc »

wdm,

i'm not sure how to make an SFS file but i just went to openoffice.org and downloaded the new 3.2.1 version. and saved it to /mnt/home. i then went to /mnt/home directory and opened a new terminal there and ran

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tar -xvzf OOo_3.2.1_LinuxIntel_install.tar.gz
form the terminal.

i then went into the new file created and in the rpms folder and ran

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for FILENAME in *.rpm; do exec rpm2cpio "$FILENAME" | cpio -i -d; done 
now you have a folder named opt that has the working program files in it. i copied the opt file directly to /mnt/home and deleted the rest and changed my defaultwordprocessor and defaultspreadsheet to point to their direction. now my defaults go to openoffice. not what you are looking for but i hope that helps.

if you need me to be more "step by step" let me know.

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#3608 Post by wdm »

sinc,

Thanks for the help. I will save this for later, I have never made a sfs file either but it might be fun to try. I just wanted to see if someone had already made one. If I need more help with your method I will get back to you.

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#3609 Post by MinHundHettePerro »

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sh-3.00# mksquashfs --help
SYNTAX:mksquashfs source1 source2 ...  dest [options] [-e list of exclude
dirs/files]...
:)/
MHHP
[color=green]Celeron 2.8 GHz, 1 GB, i82845, many ptns, modes 12, 13
Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz, 1 GB, nvidia quadro nvs 285[/color]
Slackos & 214X, ... and Q6xx
[color=darkred]Nämen, vaf....[/color] [color=green]ln -s /dev/null MHHP[/color]

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#3610 Post by wdm »

@sinc
now you have a folder named opt that has the working program files in it. i copied the opt file directly to /mnt/home and deleted the rest and changed my defaultwordprocessor and defaultspreadsheet to point to their direction. now my defaults go to openoffice. not what you are looking for but i hope that helps.
Thanks for the suggestion, it works great.

A viable alternative (and easier for me) to making a sfs file. :D

I linked the writer and calc program files to /usr/local/bin. I assume that is what you meant.

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#3611 Post by ttuuxxx »

Hi Guys Been working a lot and with a head cold and found some free time today, Sunday, While catching up with things, I noticed Barry found a new Html viewer on his blog <-- Not Browser, it doesn't have URL Bar, So I compiled libgtkhtml 2 on 2.14X and added it to his Quirky package so it would work on 2.14X then I added a mime for html to surfer and packaged it up, It doesn't have a menu listening because its made to open html via mimes, not drop and drag and does doesn't have file open menu, so using mimes is the best way. anyways below is the complete install.
You can test it by clicking on /usr/share/doc/pnethood.html etc
just something to play with :)
ttuuxxx
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http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#3612 Post by James C »

Great to see you back. :)

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#3613 Post by ttuuxxx »

here's a real small text editor that doesn't even have a print function, but you can still change fonts and open and save/edit text files.
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Editor-0.1.1-i386.pet
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http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#3614 Post by ttuuxxx »

James C wrote:Great to see you back. :)
Thanks James When I work on Linux usually I like to spend 12-18hrs straight on it, during the week I just haven't had the time, Plus my wife started a new job that uses 24hr shifts so she's gone all day and night 2 days a week and with So then I'm doing construction during the day and being mr Mom at night with the kids etc.

Anyways Barry mentioned deforaOS at his blog so the last 2 apps I found the sources at deforaOS website and compiled them, here a list of sources they have, they look like custom version just for defora. So I'm trying a few out :)
http://www.defora.org/os/project/list
ttuuxxx
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#3615 Post by Colonel Panic »

I've noticed a couple of people here saying they had trouble running / booting up Classic Pup.

I hope ttuuxxx won't mind me saying this but maybe the answer is to use a slightly earlier one? I've recently "liberated" (ahem) a copy of 2.14X v16 from the local community centre (I made a copy of it though so it's going back very soon) and I find it works better on my somewhat elderly system than my later one (2.14X R3).

So maybe that's the answer for people who've had problems with one of the later Classic Pups?

Sorry if that's depressing but I'm here typing away happily on V16 with no sign of the lockups I had in either the earlier or the later versions of Classic Pup.

Best,

CP .
Gigabyte M68MT-52P motherboard, AMD Athlon II X4 630, 5.8 GB of DDR3 RAM and a 250 GB Hitachi hard drive running Ubuntu 16.04.6, MX-19.2, Peppermint 10, PCLinuxOS 20.02, LXLE 18.04.3, Pardus 19.2, exGENT 200119, Bionic Pup 8.0 and Xenial CE 7.5 XL.

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#3616 Post by ttuuxxx »

Here's the latest FileRoller plus extra formats. :)
ttuuxxx
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lrzip-0.46-i386.pet
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lzo-2.03-dev.pet
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lzo-2.03-i386.pet
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http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#3617 Post by ttuuxxx »

here's a Very quick and small search tool called SGSearch, I also preconfigured it to use Geany and Rox.
LOL the screenshot is almost 3 times the size of the package,
ttuuxxx
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http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#3618 Post by James C »

Downloaded and installed all of these new pets and all appear to be working correctly. :)

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#3619 Post by ttuuxxx »

The Cursor theme changer issue that 2.14X has had, is almost solved, lol
I've never had much of a issue adding cursor themes but many of you had, But finally the light-bulb went on so to speak.
I was messing around with this mouse pointer theme changer Mu made back in 2005 and it was working fine but it would restart X server to change the theme and after about 6 different theme changes my pc hung while resetting X. So I restarted the pc and reinstalled the theme changer and it didn't work, haaaaaaaaaaa I knew straight away what the issue was, the difference is that before I had the devX installed and this time I didn't. And sure as heck I installed the devx and it worked. So that means its missing either a lib or a bin file from the devx.
Then I modified Mu's theme changer to just restart JWM and not X-Server and it worked without freezing and is about 50 times faster at changing a theme.
Then I removed 2 of his nag screens about 50% of his code was removed and it works fine as long as the devX is installed.
Tomorrow When/If I have time I'll figure which bin/lib is missing
ttuuxxx
below is the theme changer but you need the devx installed plus it comes with 3 themes.
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Cursor-214x.pet
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http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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gparted

#3620 Post by AndrewG »

Hi.
May anyone help me with Gparted issue?
I have a Wyse terminal with 256MB flash disk onboard.
Gparted 0.3.x included in classic Puppy 2.14 RC5 has some trouble to recognize it properly. I can set up partition with Puppy 4.31 but when I try again to install classic, Puppy installer says there is no partition. Does this mean classic 2.14 will not work with my flash drive at all? Please help me out, coz classic version is the fastest one I found. regards

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