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Lobster
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PostPosted: Wed 08 Mar 2006, 21:03    Post subject:  Introduction to Puppy  

Cool
Text only beginners "Introduction to Puppy" manual in .rtf format (most WP including Word, Open Office and Abiword) available here:

man9.rtf

http://tmxxine.com/puppy/

Anyone with additional pages should send them to me for inclusion
Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sat 11 Mar 2006, 06:33    Post subject:  

I just had a glance at the first few pages - great work, Lobster. This will be very, very useful for a lot of new people.

Just one comment that came to mind - suggest the section on dial up modems have a sentence or two explaining what Winmodems are, that they may not work properly and that one will have to look for their drivers and try out the SL / Lucent pupget packages too. Dial up modems will probably be one of the biggest problems that most new Puppies face, I would think, so we should warn them about it....
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PostPosted: Tue 14 Mar 2006, 04:00    Post subject:  

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Watch this space. We predict that Puppy Linux is going to be very big, while remaining small, fast and elegant.

(from a recent review)

Hey many thanks for your kind words Wink

I think that is a good idea but do not know much about the issue. Perhaps you can add the required info and enclose the file? That would be easiest for me - I am just too lazy to do it . . .

Many thanks
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PostPosted: Tue 14 Mar 2006, 05:01    Post subject:  

This is good work, Lobster!

In a few places it seems to sort of miss its target audience a bit, such as suggesting non-menu-based ways to power off and reboot Puppy... why not use Start -> Shutdown -> Power off computer and Start -> Shutdown -> Reboot computer and keep the user in the nice graphical desktop world which Puppy offers to newcomers? Perhaps all the command line info (other than installation) should be relegated to an Appendix or a separate document, if this is really for newcomers?

Some of the details about BIOSes and such might be better as an Appendix, too, or on the Wikki, where the document can refer interested readers for details??

One more: regarding keyboards, "if you speak English, "us" should do for you" is incorrect... UK keyboards swap @ and ", for example. And some English-speaking people live and work in places where the default keyboard on a PC they buy locally is not the US one or anything close to it Smile This statement could easily feel very "USA-centric", and so be perceived negatively, if you see what I mean, when read by readers from (or readers living in) other cultures.

I've not read it all carefully yet, just skimmed. My "bottom line" suggestion is: don't get lazy/bored with this project of yours -- keep on refining it and it will become even better than it is already!

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PostPosted: Tue 14 Mar 2006, 09:57    Post subject: Definitely growing  

That DOC is definitely growing! I wonder how the work-in-process over at PLDP can be of use to you (or your work to PLDP Smile ).
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PostPosted: Tue 14 Mar 2006, 10:21    Post subject:  

Cool

Thanks for the feedback guys - will take some stimulants (probably a 12 volt battery connected to my whiskers) and add the suggested refinements . . .OK added the keyboard and linmodem suggestions and uploaded

Thanks again Smile

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PostPosted: Tue 14 Mar 2006, 11:21    Post subject:  

Lobster,
Did you see the updated new front page at:
http://www.puppylinux.com/
with a link to your slideshow.
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PostPosted: Tue 14 Mar 2006, 11:31    Post subject:  

I can conferm that i have to use an "US" keyboard in China as the shops i visited
did not Know there was an "UK" keyboard. there is a key board for Japan
you can buy here.

Michael an eccentric Englishman.
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PostPosted: Tue 14 Mar 2006, 11:46    Post subject:  

Embarassed
Yes - a new Pup image too - I updated page 6 of the slideshow to mark this honour. It includes mention of SimplePup, Gnome and Debian Puppy projects - probably others deserve mention too.

I had to stop using SimplePup for the silliest reason - no access to my bookmarks - pah! I have some of them at favoor.com

Talking of Gentoo (well OK we weren't but why let such details matter) I got the Kororaa MU mentioned working and it wobbles programs and rotates between desktops. For that I need over 300 meg of Ram and an Nvidia card. It was too slow to use with 256 ram.
Not for this cructacean . . .

New JWM 1.5 announced . . .in 1.0.9 perhaps?

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PostPosted: Tue 14 Mar 2006, 12:59    Post subject:  

Lobster wrote:


Hey many thanks for your kind words Wink

I think that is a good idea but do not know much about the issue. Perhaps you can add the required info and enclose the file? That would be easiest for me - I am just too lazy to do it . . .

Many thanks
Smile


Sorry, was this meant for me? I didn't see it until today as I was not at a computer...

The revised version looks good. Can I add these a few sentences to it? They are:

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Many computers these days include internal modems (you'll know this if you connect your phone wire directly to the back of your computer when you are trying to dial up to the Internet). In order to save hardware costs a lot of these modems unfortunately rely on software to do part of their work - software that often only works in Windows. These modems are called "Winmodems." Winmodems may not... (etc.... and end with) To figure out your modem, search the Web for "Linmodems."


You're doing a great, great job, Lobster. Thanks a lot.
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PostPosted: Thu 04 Sep 2008, 03:37    Post subject:  

Is there an updated version for Puppy 4.x?
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PostPosted: Thu 04 Sep 2008, 04:19    Post subject:  

NoNameAmI wrote:
Is there an updated version for Puppy 4.x?


Try http://www.puppylinux.org/manual

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PostPosted: Thu 04 Sep 2008, 04:24    Post subject:  

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Try http://www.puppylinux.org/manual


Cool, Thank you

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PostPosted: Thu 04 Sep 2008, 05:12    Post subject:  

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Lobster,
Did you see the updated new front page at:
http://www.puppylinux.com/
with a link to your slideshow.


Embarassed Yes - only just seen this
More presentations and tutorials here
http://tmxxine.com/wik/wikka.php?wakka=PuppyLinux

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