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slaxer_pup "cooking version" released 5-19-2010
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big_bass

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PostPosted: Thu 20 May 2010, 11:07    Post subject:  slaxer_pup "cooking version" released 5-19-2010
Subject description: non woof build stable next generation slaxer_pup!! alot of support packages
 




Slackware is the oldest surviving linux distro

uses the 2.6.27.7 kernel patched with lzm support not using the puppy
kernel config file which makes this unique
*the 2.6.27.7 kernel is what slackware 12.2 uses as the default kernel




cooking 5-19-2010 101 MB

http://www.puppy2.org/slaxer/Slaxer_Pup-4.12-cooking-5-19-2010.iso

5a89adf12cf9b11e4997419ec03b761d Slaxer_Pup-4.12-cooking-5-19-2010.iso


after downloading a package you just click on it to install it
no command line code needed
live cd ? no problem packages will install also


=========================================
upgrade browser firefox 3.64
firefox-3.6.4-i486-3_SLXR
---> download_now



dbus-glib *needed for firefox
dbus-glib-0.80-i486-4_SLXR
---> download_now

========================================







upgrade pwireless
pwireless-0.8.4-i486-3_SLXR.txz
---> download_now





wifi ebox 2300

VT6655-driver-v1.20.02-i486-3_SLXR.txz
---> download_now




sound driver ebox 2300
module-snd-sis7019-2.6.27.7-i486-3_SLXR.txz
---> download_now



wifi driver ath5k
madwifi-r3878-20081204_2.6.27.7-i486-3_SLXR.txz
---> download_now




wifi driver martian
martian-full-20080625-i486-3_SLXR.txz
---> download_now




wifi driver broadcom-hybrid
broadcom-hybrid-5.10.91.93-k2.6.27.7-i486-3_SLXR.txz
---> download_now


video drivers
updated to include nvidia drivers

Version: 180.
Legacy GPU version (71.86.xx series):
Legacy GPU version (96.43.xx series):
Legacy GPU version (173.14.xx series):


nvidia -180.29 series for the 2.6.27.7 kernel

nvidia-driver-180.29-i486-3_SLXR.txz
---> download_now
nvidia-kernel-180.29_2.6.27.7-i486-3_SLXR.txz
---> download_now




nvidia-legacy71 series for the 2.6.27.7 kernel

nvidia-legacy71-driver-71.86.09-i486-3_SLXR.txz
---> download_now
nvidia-legacy71-kernel-71.86.09_2.6.27.7-i486-3_SLXR.txz
---> download_now





nvidia-legacy96 series for the the 2.6.27.7 kernel

nvidia-legacy96-driver-96.43.11-i486-3_SLXR.txz
---> download_now
nvidia-legacy96-kernel-96.43.11_2.6.27.7-i486-3_SLXR.txz
---> download_now





nvidia-legacy173 series for the the 2.6.27.7 kernel

nvidia-legacy173-driver-173.14.18-i486-3_SLXR.txz
---> download_now
nvidia-legacy173-kernel-173.14.18_2.6.27.7-i486-3_SLXR.txz
---> download_now


multi media players

mplayer
luxury powerful media plays everything *plays real player
3 skins so you can select the look you want
*if a file doesnt play you could dragN drop it in the viewer

MPlayer-1.0rc2-i486-3_SLXR.txz
---> download_now


extra plug ins for mozilla

mplayerplugin-3.5.0-i486-3_SLXR.txz
---> download_now


real player
if you just need to use real player video and audio this what you need

REALPLAYER-11-i486-3_SLXR.txz
---> download_now


xmms
super light media player still a classic

xmms-1.2.11-i486-3_SLXR.txz
---> download_now


=================special =================
devx compiler lite 40MB
for compiling most packages
*removed qt,python was xz compressed for a smaller package

412-devx-i486-3_SLXR.txz
---> download_now


kernel sources lite 40MB
extra support for compiling special packages and drivers

kernel-slxr-2.6.27.7-i486-3_SLXR.txz
---> download_now

=====================================

src2pkg build packages from source code for the best compatibility
special thanks to Gilbert Ashley forum member amigo


updated 5-22-2010

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/amigolinux/download/src2pkg/src2pkg-2.2-noarch-3.tgz

************************************************************
Now all the fixes and new support in a live cd !

Wow ! finally Very Happy

there's no looking back
************************************************************

*note all packages for cooking will be in *.txz format
with a "-3_SLXR.txz" suffix will upload soon

* Idea you can slaxer pup to repair and install packages on the official slackware 13 using the built in package tools a great rescue repair disk


Slackfind
a slackware package finding tool
http://slackfind.net

Joe

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vovchik


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PostPosted: Thu 20 May 2010, 17:06    Post subject:  

Dear Joe,

I like Slackware and am now downloading your iso. In fact, on my desktop machines, I still use 3.01 because it is Slackware-based and extremely stable. Congratulations. I expect to be upgrading my machines soon.

With kind regards,
vovchik

PS. Do you have a devx somewhere?
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raffy

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PostPosted: Thu 20 May 2010, 21:15    Post subject: features  

Hey, this is good!

Hope you can list the features of this puppy.

Is it XO-1-ready (having kernel 2.6.27.7)?

Will be great to have its core ready for net-booting and then load one's choice applications via NFS or Samba shares. (No other puppy does it, not even Quirky.)

Also, I was looking for a way to access Slackware packages through Slaxer. How is this done? (Yes, dumb question. Embarassed )

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big_bass

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PostPosted: Fri 21 May 2010, 13:41    Post subject:  

Hey raffy

I am uploading some txz packages so you can try out the package management


if you know the package is good you can just click on the package and it will install
it first asks a yes or no with the package name

updated the server with more packages
all the nvidia drivers and more

the cooking packages are txz
***************txz cooking***********




another feature I built in was package 2 folder
if you right click on the package you get an option to decompress and make a folder using unzipper_dragndrop5 in the ROX right click box

thats for seeing whats inside a package before installing it
a safety step or you can edit it and rebuild it


if you wanted to install official packages you have to be more careful here
because of dependencies
thats why I added in a dependency checker

but an example would be
http://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/slackware/

then you could select 12.2
or 13

http://repository.slacky.eu/slackware-13.0

*if "I can" add in any support you need I will

Joe

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big_bass

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PostPosted: Fri 21 May 2010, 13:48    Post subject:  

Hey vovchik

glad you are taking a spin on the new iso


now is a good time to setup pikona
and build some beautiful icons Very Happy



Joe

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Roy

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PostPosted: Sat 22 May 2010, 20:31    Post subject:  

big_bass,

Thank you for the update on Slaxer_Pup! Unfortunately, this is a mute Pup on my Dell Inspiron 910 netbook, even after adding "options snd-hda-intel index=0 model=dell" at the end of your /etc/modprobe.conf file. (This worked on your previous Slaxer_Pup version.)

I am wondering if the missing "Speaker" volume setting in Alsaconfig is the culprit, but have no way to verify my suspicions.

Regardless, please consider me a fan!

-Roy
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big_bass

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PostPosted: Sat 22 May 2010, 21:14    Post subject:  

Hey Roy

thanks for posting
I didn't change anything that would effect the sound
so please try again with the
Code:
puppy pfix=ram

and confirm if you still have sound and the speaker slider in jwm up

because after running alsaconf the slider for the speaker volume gets reset to zero slide it up

*the initrd is the same also

thanks

since I updated the sfs the new sfs has to be used the names are the same the sizes are different


Quote:


I am wondering if the missing "Speaker" volume setting in Alsaconfig is the culprit, but have no way to verify my suspicions.


click on the top of the first bar then use the up and down arrows to change the volume


Joe
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Roy

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PostPosted: Sat 22 May 2010, 23:35    Post subject:  

Thanks, Joe.

Silly me, my problem was that I was using the 'puppy pfix=ram' boot parameter! I had forgotten that the "options snd-hda-intel model=dell" addition at the end of /etc/modprobe.conf file would not take just by re-starting X; one has to create a save-file and reboot without pfix=ram for the change to be recognised.

This statement is valid for all Linux distro's I know of which are using versions of Alsa prior to v1.0.20. Sound works with Slaxer_Pup's earlier version of Alsa after modifying modprobe.conf and rebooting with a save-file.

Again, my apologies for not remembering the necessary steps with Alsa v1.0.16!

-Roy
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PostPosted: Sun 23 May 2010, 09:31    Post subject:  

.
Roy
Quote:
Sound works with Slaxer_Pup's earlier version of Alsa after modifying modprobe.conf and rebooting with a save-file.


Quote:

I had forgotten that the "options snd-hda-intel model=dell" addition at the end of /etc/modprobe.conf file would not take just by re-starting X; one has to create a save-file and reboot without pfix=ram for the change to be recognised.



Hey Roy
Cool Cool

that will be a big help to anyone that has a special fix for sound
on Alsa v1.0.16



there is a good reason I didnt update alsa on the first cooking
because from here on .... everthing will be updated and I had to establish a reference point with all the built in package management support making it slackware 13 package compatible

remember all this work is pre woof I added in and coded the Xdialog
package management from scratch since there is no how to for that

with all that new power at hand its just a small step away from
a major packages update Very Happy

*thanks for posting the sound fix for your box Roy !



updated the server with more packages
all the nvidia drivers and more
the cooking packages are txz


Joe

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Roy

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PostPosted: Sun 23 May 2010, 11:09    Post subject:  

Thanks for being so understanding / forgiving, Joe. I still fell like a bit of a heel.....

Can you explain a bit about how your package management system works? After getting sound to work, I downloaded your Broadcom wireless driver to a thumb drive from another computer, transferred it over to the Dell, and installed it by right clicking on it (same method as any other .pet). That put my Dell netbook on line.

But, even with an active internet connection, clicking on ~/slaxer_pkg_tools2.2 doesn't seem to accomplish anything. It does bring up the Xdialog box of options, and clicking on xinstaller shows any .txz package I have previously (manually) downloaded and placed in the ~ directory, but then returns to the main Xdialog screen. Nothing gets installed, nothing shows up in Puppy Package Manager (Menu > Setup > Puppy package manager). Even the Broadcom driver package -- although clearly installed and functioning -- doesn't show up as "installed".

I am certain that this is simply an education issue and am not doing something quite right on my end.

Oh, by the way, booting from a CD with a save file on a thumb drive is giving me an initial desktop which is strictly black -- no icons, no background,... restarting the X-server (ctrl-alt-backspace) from there fixes it -- so I might have other problems on my end.

-Roy
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PostPosted: Sun 23 May 2010, 11:59    Post subject:  

Roy
Quote:
It does bring up the Xdialog box of options, and clicking on xinstaller shows any .txz package I have previously (manually) downloaded and placed in the ~ directory, but then returns to the main Xdialog screen. Nothing gets installed, nothing shows up in Puppy Package Manager (Menu > Setup > Puppy package manager). Even the Broadcom driver package -- although clearly installed and functioning -- doesn't show up as "installed".


Very Happy Very Happy

Yes! you have discovered that you can install packages
without petget Idea

you just installed the packages and updated the Broadcom wireless driver using the Xdialog slaxer installer which officially registers the package without petget in the middle to handle things

if you play a bit with the installed package you could check dependencies

you could see every file that was installed
you could search for packages
you could uninstall it too

and you dont have to be a slaxerware user
because its set up to be easy



this means that you can install /uninstall and register
packages using my built in support with the Xdialog slaxer management
which also means many more things
you now have a distro that can handle


tgz, (sackaware's) old standard
txz (slackware's new standard )
tbz and tlz (slackware spin offs distros use )

*lzm from slax can be converted first then repackaged
lzm support is built in too




so I dont convert slackware packages to work with puppy's petget
I use slackware packages that work with slackware's package tools as the backend

which makes you linux compatible with the rest of the word Cool

nobody else is doing anything like that on "puppy"

man there are so many things more to say about that
but it will unfold layer by layer

*since slackware uses kde alot I custom build the packages for slaxer_pup keeping it light



Joe

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Roy

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PostPosted: Sun 23 May 2010, 20:18    Post subject:  

pwireless-0.8.3 does not automatically create a profile when asked to. Upgrading to pwireless-0.8.4 from the thread http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=23121&start=45 solves this problem.

No need to uninstall anything to my knowledge. Just download pwireless-0.8.4.pet and install it over version 0.8.3.

-Roy

BTW, it looks like some of the issues I had earlier were caused by a problem with my save file... I am learning to dislike the thumbdrives with the unmarked little read/write switch on the side of them!
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PostPosted: Sun 23 May 2010, 21:09    Post subject: DVB-T  

Hi Joe
Installed the updated files and set this machine up from scratch with DEVX and kernal sources. All is working well got VBox up and running easliy
I got a bit carried away thought about installing some TV recording scripts and VLC.
I have TV set up on the same machine using a vanilla puppy 4.3 so ran dmesg and surprisingly there was no DVB-T device.

This is from lupu-500 but missing on slaxer_pup on the same machine

Quote:


dvb-usb: found a 'KWorld USB DVB-T TV Stick II (VS-DVB-T 395U)' in warm state.
dvb-usb: will pass the complete MPEG2 transport stream to the software demuxer.
DVB: registering new adapter (KWorld USB DVB-T TV Stick II (VS-DVB-T 395U))
Adding 514072k swap on /dev/sda2. Priority:-1 extents:1 across:514072k
af9013: firmware version:4.95.0
DVB: registering adapter 0 frontend 0 (Afatech AF9013 DVB-T)...
Quantek QT1010 successfully identified.
input: IR-receiver inside an USB DVB receiver as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:12.2/usb1/1-2/input/input5
dvb-usb: schedule remote query interval to 150 msecs.
dvb-usb: KWorld USB DVB-T TV Stick II (VS-DVB-T 395U) successfully initialized and connected.
usbcore: registered new interface driver dvb_usb_af9015



Great to see your long term commitment to this normalizing derivative.
I have a 20,000 record + access control system running on xp in vbox in slaxer_pup at an organisation that I do voluntary work for. Running perfectly, up time now 6 weeks since I shifted it over from 'parallels' and centos 4.6.

Cheers

Warren

This machine-

AMD Phenom(tm) II X2 545 Processor : 3013.30MHz
Gigabyte ma785g-ud3h mobo
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PostPosted: Mon 24 May 2010, 00:41    Post subject:  

Tried to install skype-2.0.0.72-i486-1jsc.txz from http://slackware.schoepfer.info/13.0/slackware/misc/ Slackware 13.0 directory by using slaxer_pkg_tools2.2, but something went wrong.

First attempt didn't seem to install, but my bottom right tray Freememoryapplet ended up in the upper left-hand corner of my screen in a Gtk-dialog (?) box.

A second attempt to install Skype from the download found Skype under Network in the main menu chain. Never could restore the Free Memory applet, so just performed a hard shutdown via the power button and started over.

Ended up installing skype-2.0.0.72.pet which I had downloaded from the forum ages ago.

Should I be using Slackware 12 stuff for now instead of Slackware 13.0 stuff?

-Roy

ADDED as an afterthought: Maybe it would be a good idea for me to read the earlier Slaxer_Pup threads to get a better handle on the additional software issue....!
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PostPosted: Mon 24 May 2010, 11:11    Post subject:  

Quote:
Ended up installing skype-2.0.0.72.pet which I had downloaded from the forum ages ago.

you said that you installed a pet from the forum for skype
and that version was compiled "static"
if it works for you use it


but what is not known to the end user that way is what is required to
fill the correct dependencies "its all rolled in one package" but its not [one] package
so you could be mislead into thinking if I just download a skype package it should work
without any other dependent packages (it keeps the user in the dark to have any chance to use a full blown linux system )

skype which requires at least as add on dependencies

--> dbus-glib-0.80
--> glib2-2.18.4
-->qt-r1008952 a special qt

there is also a dependency check in the package tools
slaxer_pkg_tools2.2

if you run the dependency check on that program
a list is saved in
/var/lib/pkgtool/dependencies/


that if all the dependencies were met you wouldn't have this line

-----------------------------------------------
has these missing library files:
libQtDBus.so.4 libQtGui.so.4 libQtNetwork.so.4 libQtCore.so.4






many complex packages that require various other packages
to be complete it is important to know what is needed first


I will be building more packages as I go

thanks for the wireless fix I uploaded the fix as a txz package
pwireless-0.8.4-i486-3_SLXR.txz

Joe

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