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JustGreg

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PostPosted: Thu 22 Apr 2010, 19:36    Post subject:  NVidia Official Installer and Kernel 2.6.33.2
Subject description: Question on how to get the installer to recognize the kernel source version
 

I have an Acer Aspire Revo computer that has Nvidia motherboard called the NVidia Ion LE (note the LE version is for XP, Ion alone is for Windows 7). It uses the NVidia MCP79 processor or GEForce 9400M. Pupscan Interface tool identifies the Video as a Nvidia 0x087E device.

I have been trying to get Quirky 018 to display in a 1366 by 768 resolution. Unfortunately, Quirky can not because it wants to use the VESA video driver and limits to 1024 by 768.

I have tried to get both the supplied nv_dvr and optional nouveau_dvr. Both fail to work. For example, trying to get nv_dvr to start fails with this in xorg.log:
Quote:
NV: driver for NVIDIA chipsets: RIVA 128, RIVA TNT, RIVA TNT2,
Unknown TNT2, Vanta, RIVA TNT2 Ultra, RIVA TNT2 Model 64,
Aladdin TNT2, GeForce 256, GeForce DDR, Quadro, GeForce2 MX/MX 400,
GeForce2 MX 100/200, GeForce2 Go, Quadro2 MXR/EX/Go,
GeForce2 Integrated GPU, GeForce2 GTS, GeForce2 Ti, GeForce2 Ultra,
Quadro2 Pro, GeForce4 MX 460, GeForce4 MX 440, GeForce4 MX 420,
GeForce4 MX 440-SE, GeForce4 440 Go, GeForce4 420 Go,
GeForce4 420 Go 32M, GeForce4 460 Go, Quadro4 550 XGL,
GeForce4 440 Go 64M, Quadro NVS, Quadro4 500 GoGL,
GeForce4 410 Go 16M, GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X,
GeForce4 MX 440SE with AGP8X, GeForce4 MX 420 with AGP8X,
GeForce4 MX 4000, GeForce4 448 Go, GeForce4 488 Go, Quadro4 580 XGL,
Quadro4 NVS 280 SD, Quadro4 380 XGL, Quadro NVS 50 PCI,
GeForce4 448 Go, GeForce4 MX Integrated GPU, GeForce3,
GeForce3 Ti 200, GeForce3 Ti 500, Quadro DCC, GeForce4 Ti 4600,
GeForce4 Ti 4400, GeForce4 Ti 4200, Quadro4 900 XGL, Quadro4 750 XGL,
Quadro4 700 XGL, GeForce4 Ti 4800, GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8X,
GeForce4 Ti 4800 SE, GeForce4 4200 Go, Quadro4 700 GoGL,
Quadro4 980 XGL, Quadro4 780 XGL, GeForce FX 5800 Ultra,
GeForce FX 5800, Quadro FX 2000, Quadro FX 1000,
GeForce FX 5600 Ultra, GeForce FX 5600, GeForce FX 5600XT,
GeForce FX Go5600, GeForce FX Go5650, Quadro FX Go700,
GeForce FX 5200, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra, GeForce FX 5200,
GeForce FX 5200LE, GeForce FX Go5200, GeForce FX Go5250,
GeForce FX 5500, GeForce FX 5100, GeForce FX Go5200 32M/64M,
Quadro NVS 55/280 PCI, Quadro FX 500/600 PCI,
GeForce FX Go53xx Series, GeForce FX Go5100, GeForce FX 5900 Ultra,
GeForce FX 5900, GeForce FX 5900XT, GeForce FX 5950 Ultra,
GeForce FX 5900ZT, Quadro FX 3000, Quadro FX 700,
GeForce FX 5700 Ultra, GeForce FX 5700, GeForce FX 5700LE,
GeForce FX 5700VE, GeForce FX Go5700, GeForce FX Go5700,
Quadro FX Go1000, Quadro FX 1100, GeForce 6800 Ultra, GeForce 6800,
GeForce 6800 LE, GeForce 6800 XE, GeForce 6800 XT, GeForce 6800 GT,
GeForce 6800 GT, GeForce 6800 GS, GeForce 6800 XT, Quadro FX 4000,
GeForce 6800 GS, GeForce 6800, GeForce 6800 LE, GeForce 6800 XT,
GeForce Go 6800, GeForce Go 6800 Ultra, Quadro FX Go1400,
Quadro FX 3450/4000 SDI, Quadro FX 1400, GeForce 6600 GT,
GeForce 6600, GeForce 6600 LE, GeForce 6600 VE, GeForce Go 6600,
GeForce 6610 XL, GeForce Go 6600 TE/6200 TE, GeForce 6700 XL,
GeForce Go 6600, GeForce Go 6600 GT, Quadro NVS 440, Quadro FX 550,
Quadro FX 550, Quadro FX 540, GeForce 6200, GeForce 6500,
GeForce 6200 TurboCache(TM), GeForce 6200SE TurboCache(TM),
GeForce 6200 LE, GeForce Go 6200, Quadro NVS 285, GeForce Go 6400,
GeForce Go 6200, GeForce Go 6400, GeForce 6250, GeForce 7100 GS,
GeForce 6800, GeForce 6800 LE, GeForce 6800 GT, GeForce 6800 XT,
GeForce 6200, GeForce 6200 A-LE, GeForce 7800 GTX, GeForce 7800 GTX,
GeForce 7800 GT, GeForce 7800 GS, GeForce 7800 SLI, GeForce Go 7800,
GeForce Go 7800 GTX, Quadro FX 4500, GeForce 7350 LE,
GeForce 7300 LE, GeForce 7300 SE, GeForce Go 7200, GeForce Go 7300,
GeForce Go 7400, GeForce Go 7400 GS, Quadro NVS 110M,
Quadro NVS 120M, Quadro FX 350M, GeForce 7500 LE, Quadro FX 350,
GeForce 7300 GS, GeForce 7650 GS, GeForce 7600 GT, GeForce 7600 GS,
GeForce 7300 GT, GeForce 7600 LE, GeForce 7300 GT, GeForce Go 7700,
GeForce Go 7600, GeForce Go 7600 GT, Quadro NVS 300M,
GeForce Go 7900 SE, Quadro FX 550M, Quadro FX 560, GeForce 7900 GTX,
GeForce 7900 GT, GeForce 7900 GS, GeForce 7950 GX2, GeForce 7950 GX2,
GeForce 7950 GT, GeForce Go 7950 GTX, GeForce Go 7900 GS,
GeForce Go 7900 GTX, Quadro FX 2500M, Quadro FX 1500M,
Quadro FX 5500, Quadro FX 3500, Quadro FX 1500, Quadro FX 4500 X2,
GeForce 6150, GeForce 6150 LE, GeForce 6100, GeForce Go 6150,
Quadro NVS 210S / NVIDIA GeForce 6150LE, GeForce Go 6100,
GeForce 6150SE, GeForce 6100 nForce 405, GeForce 6100 nForce 400,
GeForce 6100 nForce 420, GeForce 8800 GTX, GeForce 8800 GTS,
GeForce 8800 Ultra, Quadro FX 5600, Quadro FX 4600, GeForce 8600 GTS,
GeForce 8600 GT, GeForce 8600 GT, GeForce 8600 GS, GeForce 8400 GS,
GeForce 9500M GS, GeForce 8600M GT, GeForce 9650M GS,
GeForce 8700M GT, Quadro FX 370, Quadro NVS 320M, Quadro FX 570M,
Quadro FX 1600M, Quadro FX 570, Quadro FX 1700, GeForce 8400 SE,
GeForce 8500 GT, GeForce 8400 GS, GeForce 8300 GS, GeForce 8400 GS,
GeForce 8600M GS, GeForce 8400M GT, GeForce 8400M GS,
GeForce 8400M G, Quadro NVS 140M, Quadro NVS 130M, Quadro NVS 135M,
GeForce 9400 GT, Quadro FX 360M, GeForce 9300M G, Quadro NVS 290,
GeForce GTX 295, GeForce GTX 280, GeForce GTX 260, GeForce GTX 285,
GeForce GTX 275, GeForce GTX 295, Quadro CX, Quadro FX 5800,
Quadro FX 4800, Quadro FX 3800, GeForce 8800 GTS 512,
GeForce 9800 GT, GeForce 8800 GT, GeForce 9800 GX2, GeForce 9800 GT,
GeForce 8800 GS, GeForce GTS 240, GeForce 9800M GTX,
GeForce 8800M GTS, GeForce GTX 280M, GeForce 9800M GT,
GeForce 8800M GTX, GeForce 8800 GS, GeForce 9600 GSO,
GeForce 8800 GT, GeForce 9800 GTX, GeForce 9800 GTX+,
GeForce 9800 GT, GeForce GTS 250, GeForce 9800M GTX,
GeForce GTX 260M, Quadro FX 3700, Quadro FX 3600M, Quadro FX 2800M,
Quadro FX 3700M, Quadro FX 3800M, GeForce 9600 GT, GeForce 9600 GS,
GeForce 9600 GSO 512, GeForce GT 130, GeForce GT 140,
GeForce 9800M GTS, GeForce 9700M GTS, GeForce 9800M GS,
GeForce 9800M GTS, Quadro FX 1800, Quadro FX 2700M, GeForce 9500 GT,
GeForce 9400 GT, GeForce 9500 GT, GeForce 9500 GS, GeForce GT 120,
GeForce 9600M GT, GeForce 9600M GS, GeForce 9600M GT,
GeForce 9700M GT, GeForce 9500M G, GeForce 9650M GT, GeForce GT 130M,
GeForce 9500 GT, Quadro FX 380, Quadro FX 580, Quadro FX 1700M,
Quadro FX 770M, GeForce 9300 GE, GeForce 9300 GS, GeForce 8400 GS,
GeForce 9300M GS, GeForce G100, GeForce 9200M GS, GeForce 9300M GS,
Quadro NVS 150M, Quadro NVS 160M, GeForce G 105M, GeForce G 103M,
Quadro NVS 420, Quadro FX 370 LP, Quadro NVS 450, Quadro NVS 295,
GeForce GT 220, GeForce 210, GeForce GT 230M, GeForce GT 240M,
GeForce G210, GeForce 205, GeForce 310, GeForce 210, GeForce 310,
GeForce G210M, Quadro FX 380 LP, GeForce GT 240, GeForce GTS 260M,
GeForce GTS 250M
(II) Primary Device is: PCI 03@00:00:0
(WW) NV: Ignoring unsupported device 0x10de087e at 03@00:00:0
(EE) No devices detected.
Fatal server error: no screens found

I get a similar error with nouveau_dvr.

The video processor is not supported even though it is a standard NVidia product. With Puppy 4.3.1, I use the official Nvidia 190.53 Linux driver, thank you very much Gray for the Pet package, for the 1366 by 768 resolution. It works great.

I have been trying to get the same driver to work using the official Nvidia installer. Using the Quirky 018 devx.sfs and kernel source file, I get this
error from the installer:
Quote:
ERROR: Unable to determine the version of the kernel sources located in
'/usr/src/linux-2.6.33.2'. Please make sure you have installed the
kernel source files for your kernel and that they are properly
configured; on Red Hat Linux systems, for example, be sure you have the
'kernel-source' or 'kernel-devel' RPM installed. If you know the
correct kernel source files are installed, you may specify the kernel
source path with the '--kernel-source-path' command line option.


I did use the '--kernel-source-path' command line option and --kernel-name
option without any success.

Is there a missing file or environmental variable that specifies the kernel version? I checked with uname -r and it lists the correct version 2.6.33.2.

Has anyone done a pet for the offical Nvidia driver that is compatible with 2.6.33.2 kernel? Thanks in advance for any help on this one.

I see that Barry has released Wary 020. I will try that to see it helps.

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Hesse James


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PostPosted: Tue 27 Apr 2010, 13:45    Post subject:  

There seem to be a solution by Barry and others ->see this:
http://www.bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01536
I will try it tonight.
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PostPosted: Tue 27 Apr 2010, 16:47    Post subject:  

Good news: Nvidia-Closed Source driver 195.36... worked for me with Wary020 using the "make prepare" command. Quirky 018 needs more than "make prepare". I will continue my investigations.
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PostPosted: Tue 27 Apr 2010, 19:45    Post subject:
Subject description: Advanced Head Banging
 

Thank you, Hesse Jesse for the information. I have been trying to get Quirky 018 to use it. It has been not working well. After building the nvidia kernel, I get messages like this:

Code:
WARNING: Could not open 'kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-core.ko': No such file or directory
WARNING: Could not open 'kernel/drivers/char/agp/agpgart.ko': No such file or directory
FATAL: Could not open 'kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko': No such file or directory

The modules are in the proper location.

I was starting think I could not follow Barry's instructions. I am off to try Wary 020.

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PostPosted: Wed 28 Apr 2010, 01:29    Post subject:  

To your information: the Wary020 DEVX-sfs is not yet available. Therefor I took the 019 version and renamed it to 020. That worked for the installation.
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PostPosted: Wed 28 Apr 2010, 03:44    Post subject:  

Wish I get what you guys talks about. I have nvidia too but not sure how to tell it on the level you two specify such.

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01564837&tmp_track_link=ot_faqs/top_issues/en_se/c01564837/loc:2&lc=en&dlc=sv&cc=se&lang=sv&product=3813802

Compaq Presario SR5622SC Desktop PC Product Specifications
Athlon X2 (B) 4450e 2.3 GHz (45W)

Chipset GeForce 6150SE nForce 430

Video Graphics
GeForce 9300 GE (256 MB)

* 256 MB GDDR2 memory


When Puppy looks at it it says it is NVidia. But Dpup and Upup give extremely bad video despite having 3GB RAM

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PostPosted: Wed 28 Apr 2010, 19:00    Post subject:
Subject description: No Luck, but some information
 

I have tried multiple times to get the NVIDIA installer to work with the latest 2.6.33.2 kernel without any success. I did learn some facts that I wish to share.

My testing was done on Puppy 4.3.1, Wary020 and Quirky018 on Acer Aspire Revo. It has a NVIDIA mother board with NVIDIA coprocessor CP19 that has a NVIDIA VGA compatible device with a number of 0x087E. It is also identified as Ion LE. Other sources on the internet identify it (device number) also as a GeForce 9400M.

I used frugal installation with the addition of the development (devx.sfs) file system and the kernel source package available from Barry's web site. I did find the NVIDIA driver did use some storage space (about 85 Megabytes). I found you should use at least a 256 Megabyte sized save file in testing this.

First I need to thank Barry, who took the time to explain what the original problem that started this post. The 2.6.33.2 kernel source package needs a minor update. To see if you need to do the update, one needs to check to see if there is a version.h file located in: /usr/src/linux-2.6.33.2/include/linux directory. If it is not there then one needs to; exit to the command prompt using the shutdown menu (first entry)
Enter at the command prompt(#);
Code:
 cd /usr/src/linux-2.6.33.2

Enter at the command prompt(#);
Code:
make prepare

Enter at the command prompt(#);
Code:
cd /root

Barry instructions are at: http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01536
This will take care of the initial problem.

One needs to delete the link /sbin/depmod to Busy Box and create a new link for depmod pointing to /sbin/depmod-FULL for correct operation of the Nvidia installer.

One needs to download the latest driver (version 195.36.15) from Nvidia support site. You should place the downloaded driver into the /root directory. To install it, xorg server needs not to be running. One exits to the command prompt using the shutdown menu (first entry). At the command prompt(#) enter first, pwd, this checks to make sure you are in the root directory. If you are then
Code:
sh ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-195.36.15-pkg1.run -a

(note -a is option to accept the license agreement automatically, and name is for the latest driver installation package at this time). Just answer yes to all the questions. Type xwin to restart the xserver and you should have the driver running.

I found that with Puppy 4.3.1 2.6.30.5 kernel source (did not need the make prepare operation), the NVIDIA installer worked well with no problems. It works and looks nice. The forum member Gray has a NVIDIA driver Pet package that provides the same package (smaller, too) with a lot less work. Thanks, Gray!

The problem area is the new kernel 2.6.33.2. The NVIDIA installer on my system causes the kernel module loading process to fail. Here is the error messages from xwin at startup:

Code:
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
   (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
   (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Wed Apr 28 16:58:13 2010
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(EE) Failed to load module "type1" (module does not exist, 0)
(EE) Failed to load module "glx" (module does not exist, 0)
(EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)
(EE) No drivers available.


I also found the sound card and WIFI (RT73USB) were not present. Once I restored the original xorg.conf, I found I could not manual load the needed modules with modprobe. The use of modprobe resulted in an error message of needed modules not being found. It also happen with the ls command. If I entered in a console terminal window, ls /lib/modules/2.6/33.2/drivers/video/nvidia*, ls would report "no such file". However, if I navigated to specific directory and use the ls command then the file and its information was listed. This problem may be specific to my system. Hesse Jesse has reported the driver works fine for his equipment.

There may be a problem with NVIDIA drivers and xorg 7.5. The Quirky 018
xorg.conf file has these line in it:
Code:
# This loads the GLX module (if present). xorg 7.4/5, need explicit disable to disable...
    Disable       "glx" #LOADGLX

The problem is NVIDIA driver (195.36.15) instructions for the manual configuration of xorg.conf requires the "glx" module to loaded. The disabling of glx may be a source of a problem, if one gets a working configuration for NVIDIA driver.

I will be sending a bug report to NVIDIA to see what they say about the problem. I did notice that for Ion product, NVIDIA only has Window$ drivers. I got the Linux driver by using GeForce 9400 product listing.

This has been interesting, but frustrating due to my lack of knowledge of kernel module building.

To those that tried to help me, thank you!

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PostPosted: Wed 28 Apr 2010, 19:05    Post subject:
Subject description: For Nooby
 

nooby,

If you are using Puppy 4.3.1 then just find Forum Member Gray post with his NVIDIA (190.53) driver. It works great and uses the normal Pet package installation. It should work and you get nicer video.

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PostPosted: Fri 30 Apr 2010, 20:58    Post subject:
Subject description: Quirky 022
 

Barry's latest Quirky, number 022 has a stripped down version of the nvidia 195.36.15 driver and kernel 2.6.33.2. It works nicely on my system. One does have to manually select the driver (name nvidia) in the choose option. It does not have the nivida-settings tool. Have fun.
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PostPosted: Sat 01 May 2010, 05:25    Post subject:
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JustGreg wrote:
nooby,

If you are using Puppy 4.3.1 then just find Forum Member Gray post with his NVIDIA (190.53) driver. It works great and uses the normal Pet package installation. It should work and you get nicer video.

Thanks, I consider it later because just now I am totally immersed trying to keep up with the fast pace of dev of Lupu 114, 000, Quirky 021. 022 and so on. Also looking into the great success of Macpup latest and why that one is so popular. Smile

But sooner or later I get back to puppy431 and then I make use of the Gray pet.

Hey, my neighbor want a puppy with all the menu in Swedish.
The Exton puppy remaster are too old for his computer. We have to use acpi=force or something.

ooops ranting outside topic. I end while I am aware or what I am doing.

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PostPosted: Sat 01 May 2010, 06:18    Post subject:
Subject description: Quirky 022
 

JustGreg wrote:
Barry's latest Quirky, number 022 has a stripped down version of the nvidia 195.36.15 driver and kernel 2.6.33.2. It works nicely on my system. One does have to manually select the driver (name nvidia) in the choose option. It does not have the nivida-settings tool. Have fun.


but that doesn't work in lupu114 does it?
And I need the full GL version despite it being 25mb big. I installed the latest Barry pet that he changed. It did not work in pupu114

I am now in lupu114 but have no clue on if I use the full nvidia or the lesser one. I guess I have the full?

Greg thanks indeed for your suggestion how to get the speaker going.

But it was way above my capacity to know how to do it. So hopefully you or somebody else solve it to next upload of lupu

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