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#321 Post by James C »

playdayz wrote:
Exited to prompt and entered "new-wizard", clicked probe and picked 1024x768x16 and got ......800x600.Repeated with same result. Tried Vesa and got 800x600 again....
Hi James C, I swear I thought I had tested that it would have worked as you described. But that was a half-way kind of kludge and we are going the full monte in 010 ;-)
Good deal. Guess that's why we do all the testing........... :)

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#322 Post by nooby »

glxgears works fine here???


# glxgears
1546 frames in 5.0 seconds
1483 frames in 5.0 seconds
1536 frames in 5.0 seconds
1527 frames in 5.0 seconds
1527 frames in 5.0 seconds
1537 frames in 5.0 seconds
1530 frames in 5.0 seconds
1547 frames in 5.0 seconds
1557 frames in 5.0 seconds
XIO: fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0.0"
after 27935 requests (27091 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
#


it show the graphics good and the streaming videos on cnn too.

But when I scroll using the mouse dragging the vertical bar then the screen split up in many many horisontal parts. Very annoying.

it also place the whole screen 5 mm to the left compared to quirky 013

Edit: forgot to comment on this:
Hey Nooby, did that mean that the video behaved properly when it had been choppy? it is not using the lowest common denominator vesa drivers, but it is using the good dri/glx drivers. You can open a terminal and type 'glxgears' to confirm (hopefully) that DRI/GLX is working.


My english fails to get grammar properly in that text.

1. Maybe you refer to horizontal split up. I don't remember.
2. if you mean if the choppyness goes away if one choose Vesa instead of Xorg.
Yes it does

What else could you refer to? I don't know!
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not an ideal solution though

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#323 Post by cifa »

great work guys - worked straight out of the box! thank you :D
booted up (on frugal install) perfect on my ASUS mobo with Intel g41 graphics chipset - running @ 1280 x 1024!! happy days!
opera 10.2 installed - no problems
pwidgets installed no problem
glxgears works fine here too.
dri is active

only problem I have is with gxine
it just freezes/crashes the whole system on me when I try to play a video (mp4/avi) or even just try to boot it up without playing a video
cant do anything but reset (ctrl, alt & backspace no effect)

keeping a close on this & will keep testing

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#324 Post by tronkel »

Re: Lupu 009

Video card is ATI Radeon 3450

This got configured automatically on first boot, but German DE keyboard didn't get recognised. I know this problem has already been discovered, so just confirming that it's also the case here with this hardware combination.

There's apparently also a problem with CUPS 1.4.2 in Lupu 009.
My Brother DCP-7030 printer/scanner gets configured perfectly using the OEM Brother drivers, but nevertheless CUPS won't print a test page. It starts the job OK but hangs with a message "File might not be a PDF Type" ?????. Never seen this before in CUPS. I can print perfectly from earlier versions of Lupu and also from Quirky 018.

Something missing to do with CUPS in the Woof pet packages maybe? Anyone else seen this problem?

I'll start up Lupu 009 again later today and play further with it.

I like the new Quickpet idea. It's not actually downloading for me as yet, but I imagine that'll get sorted out at some point before the final release.

Otherwise cool.
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#325 Post by smil99 »

Can confirm tronkel's printing problems here too. That is, CUPS is unable to print to my Canon MP640 in lupu 007, 008 and 009. I still use lupu006 because it has CUPS 1.42 which prints just fine. The latter lupus have CUPS 1.43 and I have no idea why printing breaks down.

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Printing problems

#326 Post by mories »

The printing problems with messages in /var/log/cups/error_log:
[Job 1] GPL Ghostscript 8.71: Can't find initialization file gs_init.ps.
[Job 1] Set job-printer-state-message to "May not be a PDF file (continuing anyway)", current level=ERROR

are caused by missing content of folder
/usr/share/ghostscript/8.71/Resource/Init
of package "ghostscript"

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#327 Post by tronkel »

@mories,@smil99

I have just installed Ghostscript via the Package Manager in Lupu 009 Alpha1.

Printing then works except for the inability to print a test page. For some reason this test page file itself is missing in this Lupu. So this is at least a temporary workaround.

I also managed to get my keyboard recognised by copying over my keyboard options into Lupu's basic xorg.conf from the xorg.conf in Quirky 018. It can sit at the bottom of the xorg.conf file. Again only a workaround.

It also might give playdayz a start on how to get rid of these two bugs.

Might be that the Ghostscript version in Lupu needs to be the Ubuntu version rather than the version included in Woof at the moment. Seems that way anyway.

Good detective work from mories. Kudos!
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Sound & font size

#328 Post by P123 »

:lol: First I have to say I love Lucid 009 very usable & gxine works (in all the other puplets I have tried it hasn't expect TeenPup).

Just using the live cd.

But to get the sound to work (on my Toshiba Satellite L30-101 laptop upgraded to 2Gb of ram) I had to plug in an external speaker (X-mini second generation).

& Whenever I tried to change the font size it would not save the changes.

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#329 Post by pa_mcclamrock »

This is my first time trying LucidPuppy--008 yesterday, 009 today. I like a lot of it: choice of browsers, quickpet, Sylpheed 2.7.1 as default e-mail manager, .PETs seem to install even faster than before, Puppy is not turning into Ubuntu, even though you can now install .deb packages from Ubuntu as easily as .PETs (so far as I can see).

Printing didn't work until I installed Ghostscript 8.6.4 from the Woof repository. I didn't know what category it would be in, and the new PPM doesn't have an "All" radiobutton, so I had to go to ibiblio.org with the browser and download it. Lupu 010, I think, must have Ghostscript included, and the test page problem fixed--please!!

My only other big problem so far is screen resolution with Xorg in 009 (it was fine in 008). In 009, I clicked "Setup X video" in Puppy Setup, and nothing happened. Same when I tried it from the menu. I don't want the resolution I automatically got, I want good old 1024 x 768 (fewer pixels, but bigger text and icons). How am I supposed to get it? I would really like to start using the Lucid Puppy pre-releases and give them a thorough test, but I'm going to use Puppy 4.3.1 with the screen resolution I like, rather than lupu 009 with the one I don't.
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#330 Post by playdayz »

, I want good old 1024 x 768 (fewer pixels, but bigger text and icons). How am I supposed to get it? I would really like to start using the Lucid Puppy pre-releases and give them a thorough test, but I'm going to use Puppy 4.3.1 with the screen resolution I like, rather than lupu 009 with the one I don't.
I believe that Lucid Puppy 111, just posted, might have what you are looking for ;-)

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#331 Post by pa_mcclamrock »

playdayz wrote:I believe that Lucid Puppy 111, just posted, might have what you are looking for ;-)
Sorry, but I'm running it right now, and it doesn't. :(

1. Printing still doesn't work, at least if I don't install Ghostscript from the Puppy 5 repository. On 4.3.1, it worked right from the start.

2. I did get a choice of screen resolutions, unlike in 009. I selected 1024 x 768, tested it, and it supposedly worked OK. Then I got a confusing dialog box telling me I probably shouldn't make it permanent, but use it only for this session, and use Xorgwizard (if I recall correctly) to select a permanent resolution. Xorgwizard still doesn't do anything. Now I've got 1024 x 768 resolution, all right--but I don't have a taskbar or drive icons at the bottom of the screen! Also, I'm running Opera 10.10, and the scrollbar is halfway off the screen.

Frankly, if you have to choose between the old-fashioned method of setting the video resolution before starting X, which works right, and this newfangled way of setting the resolution while X is running, which so far doesn't work right . . . well, you can easily guess what my recommendation would be. Likewise, the printing really needs to work right from the first. I started trying to use Puppy with version 1.0.7 in about 2005 (I think), but I couldn't use it every day until about 2008 (with version 4.1.1), all because the printing didn't work for me before then. I'm really looking forward to a Lucid Puppy without these faults, but unfortunately I'm going to have to reboot 4.3.1 again right after I get done with this message.

Persevere--and thanks in advance for finally succeeding!

P.S. Hey, this is progress, kind of. I took the lupu-111 CD out of the drive, put the 4.3.1 CD in to prepare to reboot, and the CD drive icon showed up! The hard-drive icons still didn't, though--and you know what, Pmount wouldn't mount the hard-drive partition I tried to get it to mount, either. :cry:
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bug report

#332 Post by raffy »

Bug report from the news site:
Re: LuPu 006 - I have 8 storage devices. On boot, the icons are misaligned. Manually aligned icons but they are again misaligned on reboot..

Added a flash device: no icon appears but shows up in the pmount dialog.

mhWaveEdit has the same problems as in 005; does not record from line.

Pmusic problem of playing item not displayed and no indication of time elapsed now resolved.

When source is open and the + button to add a file to playlist is clicked, another instance of the source is generated. Bug or by design?

Pmusic: pressing the icon to go back 30 secs in fact goes back to the beginning of the track.

What happened to the Browser menu?
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#333 Post by James C »

Fresh manual frugal install of Lucid 111 on the trusty P3 test box. I do have my preferred 1024x768 resolution but getting there was an adventure.

Booted the fresh install and automatically got......800x600. The gui came up, tried xrandr and was presented with 2 choices (800x600 and 600x480).Exited to a prompt and ran xorg-setup........I finally got 1024x768.

But, the 7 drive icons were piled up on the "quick pet" icon and moving the drive icons I now had no "quick pet" icon.Installed Firefox and Pwidgets with no problems, but.......

To make room for the Pwidgets I moved the trash, lock and zip icons. Upon the first reboot, all the drive icons moved back to the wrong location while the others returned to their original location under the Pwidgets.

Plugged in a flash drive and the icon landed on top of sda1. Mounted it and moved the files I chose but then pmount would not unmount i, tried repeatedly.

Will do some further testing. :) .

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#334 Post by 8-bit »

For the drive icons, try MENU/Desktop Settings/Desktop drive icons manager.
On the first tab at the bottom, there is an option to erase, realign, and redraw the desktop drive icons.
Maybe having that selected will help.

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#335 Post by James C »

8-bit wrote:For the drive icons, try MENU/Desktop Settings/Desktop drive icons manager.
On the first tab at the bottom, there is an option to erase, realign, and redraw the desktop drive icons.
Maybe having that selected will help.
Thanks, that took care of one problem. :)

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#336 Post by darwinev0lved »

Lupup 111 is actually worse:
008 offered Barry's solution of picking the right Intel driver
009 removed this option - but at least I could boot with vesa, remove the offending Intel driver and restart Xorg.
This version simply doesn't boot.

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#337 Post by Sylvander »

Lucid Puppy 111

1. Installed my usual long list of packages.
e.g. Firefox, Fox, Xfe, cursor-themes, HTOP, nmap, dotpuphandler, puppybasic, FoxitReader, Pwidgets.
More to be installed.
All working well except...

2.
(a) When I tried to change the desktop wallpaper...
Got an error warning about being unable to find file:
/root/.pwidgets/Pwidgets_background
I checked, and it doesn't exist anywhere.

(b) The background wallpaper no longer displayed, but managed to fix that by making config changes to prevent [re:pupsave on Flash Drive] auto-save [changed it to 0], and to be able to choose to not save at shut-down.
Re-booted, and once back in, all was back as it had been, but still unable to change the background.

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#338 Post by tronkel »

Coming along nicely so far.
Few small glitches:

Printing:
Ghostscript needs to be installed from Package Manager.
Prints from word processor but no test page.
Does not print to PDF from CUPS

Desktop:
Quickpet icon only shows as mime type - i.e. no normal Puppy icon.

X Windows:

Keyboard not recognised even if set with the initial Lupu setup program.
Keyboard gets recognised only by running xorg-setup and then restarting X.

The xorg-setup ncurses screen is skewed off towards the bottom of my 1400x900 LCD monitor - therefore important dialog choice options cannot be seen. Borders show as characters instead of discreet lines.

Would it be possible to have the correct resolution set early enough at startup so that the ncurses screen gets properly displayed? LOL - difficult I think.

Good things:

Screen quality has improved over that of Lupu 009 once the desktop appears. I tried downloading Opera 10.10 instead of Seamonkey this time. Compared with the default MACPUP2 Opera, web-page fonts look far better in Lupu 111 - but this may be due to the fact that I had to use MU's flgrx ati driver for MACPUP which may not be configured correctly. This is a case where the ATI Radeon open-source driver module provided by the 2.6.33.2 Kernel (or from Barry?) wins over the proprietary version in some respects. The desktop background is now displayed with the correct aspect ratio in Lupu 111

Thank for all the good work. Lupu is fast becoming my favourite Puppy - faults and all.
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#339 Post by 01micko »

tronkel

Did Quickpet actually download for you this time? You are one of the few that report failure, stu90 is another and aarf, but only with Pwidgets on Erics server.

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#340 Post by tronkel »

@01micko

Quickpet update was OK this time for some reason, so that's good.

The quickpet SFS button doesn't seem to do anything. What is this button actually for?
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