Puppy Linux Discussion Forum Forum Index Puppy Linux Discussion Forum
Puppy HOME page : puppylinux.com
"THE" alternative forum : puppylinux.info
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

The time now is Fri 18 Apr 2014, 04:17
All times are UTC - 4
 Forum index » Advanced Topics » Puppy Projects
Lucid Puppy 5.0.1 - 24 May 2010
Moderators: Flash, JohnMurga
Post new topic   Reply to topic View previous topic :: View next topic
Page 20 of 87 [1297 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, ..., 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, ..., 85, 86, 87 Next
Author Message
playdayz


Joined: 25 Apr 2008
Posts: 3788

PostPosted: Wed 21 Apr 2010, 20:40    Post subject:  

It is easier for me to ask. I am not proud.

In 009 I would like to use the automatic configuration of X that is in 000. To make it nice I would like to open xrandrshell on the *first boot* so that the user can easily make a change to resolution if need be--but in most cases it should be OK and the info will be only informative--perfectly OK. But I don't want it opening on subsequent boots of course.

So, how to run a program on first boot only? Thanks. It is one thing holding up 009--which I think will serve as an alpha.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hello Eyes-Only, We have been together quite a while now, back into the K-Meleon days. It is always a pleasure to associate with a gentleman of such graciousness--and discernment Wink I am very glad you are enjoying Luci Pup. Merci.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
jrb


Joined: 11 Dec 2007
Posts: 1017
Location: Smithers, BC, Canada

PostPosted: Wed 21 Apr 2010, 22:02    Post subject:  

playdayz wrote:
So, how to run a program on first boot only?

This works:
Code:
#!/bin/sh
  if [ ! -L /mnt/home ]; then
   exec /usr/sbin/xrandrshell
  else
   continue
  fi

Place it in a script in /root/Startup or place it in /usr/sbin/delayedrun.

Cheers, J
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
playdayz


Joined: 25 Apr 2008
Posts: 3788

PostPosted: Wed 21 Apr 2010, 22:14    Post subject:  

Thanks jrb.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Concerning compiling the Nvidia driver and the gcc 4.4.3/4.4.4 thing--for Mayday we might be able to put a compiled version of both the Nvidia and ATI catalyst drivers into QuickPackage.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
darwinev0lved

Joined: 29 Jul 2008
Posts: 83

PostPosted: Thu 22 Apr 2010, 05:19    Post subject: lucid 000  

Hi just a quick report on the experimental lucid - 'fraid it didn't get past the Xorgwizard. I'm assuming it's the old picking the wrong intel driver problem (that lupup008 gives you the option to choose). So the Ubuntu way is not too smart if it's picking the wrong driver Very Happy

Having said that - I tried the Ubuntu 10.04beta2 running off a usbstick and although it boots with the speed of a dead dog, it did find the right driver - so they're obviously doing something right.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
playdayz


Joined: 25 Apr 2008
Posts: 3788

PostPosted: Thu 22 Apr 2010, 13:38    Post subject: Re: lucid 000  

darwinev0lved wrote:
Hi just a quick report on the experimental lucid - 'fraid it didn't get past the Xorgwizard. I'm assuming it's the old picking the wrong intel driver problem (that lupup008 gives you the option to choose). So the Ubuntu way is not too smart if it's picking the wrong driver Very Happy

Having said that - I tried the Ubuntu 10.04beta2 running off a usbstick and although it boots with the speed of a dead dog, it did find the right driver - so they're obviously doing something right.


hey darwinevolved, in 009 you will be able to go to new-wizard if the auto config fails and that has the option to handle the alrenate intel driver. Please let us know. thanks.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
darwinev0lved

Joined: 29 Jul 2008
Posts: 83

PostPosted: Thu 22 Apr 2010, 14:10    Post subject: Re: lucid 000  

playdayz wrote:
darwinev0lved wrote:
Hi just a quick report on the experimental lucid - 'fraid it didn't get past the Xorgwizard. I'm assuming it's the old picking the wrong intel driver problem (that lupup008 gives you the option to choose). So the Ubuntu way is not too smart if it's picking the wrong driver Very Happy

Having said that - I tried the Ubuntu 10.04beta2 running off a usbstick and although it boots with the speed of a dead dog, it did find the right driver - so they're obviously doing something right.


hey darwinevolved, in 009 you will be able to go to new-wizard if the auto config fails and that has the option to handle the alternate intel driver. Please let us know. thanks.


As soon as 009 is out, I'll give it a whirl.
On a completely unrelated point - has anybody tried to get apt/synaptic working? - I know there was a lot of work done on it for dpup but it's all gone quiet over there.
regards,
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
playdayz


Joined: 25 Apr 2008
Posts: 3788

PostPosted: Thu 22 Apr 2010, 15:27    Post subject: Re: lucid 000  

Quote:

On a completely unrelated point - has anybody tried to get apt/synaptic working? - I know there was a lot of work done on it for dpup but it's all gone quiet over there.


No on apt/synaptic. We will not have that implemented when we release Lucid Puppy. it is an interesting point. On first thought it seems like a no brainer and maybe it is something for 5.1, but it does not work absolutely straightforwardly--that is, Lucid puppy has a different organization and consequently not all ubuntu programs are a straight fit. What I mean by saying that Lucid puppy can use ubuntu binaries is that it is easier than ever to prepare programs for use in a Puppy. You can see that from the list of programs in QuickPackage, I did several of those per day (01micko did some and a few were adopted from earlier Puppies). Personally, I have put the energy into making sure that a small number of very high quality programs are available for LuciPup and that they are configured and tested for LuciPup and available with a one-click install. Those are the ones in QP. That is not what apt/synaptic would give us even in the best of conditions. On the idea that LuciPup is to be friendly and easy, I think the one-click install with the big pretty colorful icons is desirable. i hope that makes sense.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
phil812


Joined: 16 Apr 2010
Posts: 6
Location: SPb, Russia

PostPosted: Thu 22 Apr 2010, 16:12    Post subject:  

Sit Heel Speak and playdayz thanks for your answers!

Sit Heel Speak wrote:
If you try compiling that driver module under either Quirky-018 or Wary-019 using its own devx, you might succeed, and the resulting .ko (copied over into Lupu's /lib/modules/2.6.33.2) should run under Lupu


playing with wary-19 and it's devx_sfs give no result Sad : ERROR: Installtion has failed. Please read the log-file

downloading wary-20
but where's the devx_sfs?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
ICQ Number 
luther349

Joined: 01 Apr 2009
Posts: 61

PostPosted: Thu 22 Apr 2010, 22:28    Post subject: nice  

downloaded it to test it. its alot cleaner then puppy 4.3. i just hope you don't move away from pets as your main packages. when on a live cd using debs normaly downloads a bunch of other libarys. i know puppy 4.4 is the last of the series before 5.0 woof.

im using a old machine and the new puppy broswer is so fast even with flash plugin that you included Very Happy
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
phil812


Joined: 16 Apr 2010
Posts: 6
Location: SPb, Russia

PostPosted: Fri 23 Apr 2010, 00:20    Post subject: Re: lucid 000  

playdayz wrote:
What I mean by saying that Lucid puppy can use ubuntu binaries is that it is easier than ever to prepare programs for use in a Puppy

I appreciated it already.. make packages never was so easy! now i can use all power of linux.... like flush torrent client (farewell, deluge!) and eiskalt dc++ client (rest in peace, linuxdcpp!).... and so on

playdayz wrote:
That is not what apt/synaptic would give us even in the best of conditions.

yes, indeed.. apt/synaptic really sucks! and i wonder why do we need another ms windows or ubuntu?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
ICQ Number 
darwinev0lved

Joined: 29 Jul 2008
Posts: 83

PostPosted: Fri 23 Apr 2010, 04:02    Post subject: Re: lucid 000  

playdayz wrote:
Quote:

On a completely unrelated point - has anybody tried to get apt/synaptic working? - I know there was a lot of work done on it for dpup but it's all gone quiet over there.


No on apt/synaptic. We will not have that implemented when we release Lucid Puppy. it is an interesting point. On first thought it seems like a no brainer and maybe it is something for 5.1, but it does not work absolutely straightforwardly--that is, Lucid puppy has a different organization and consequently not all ubuntu programs are a straight fit. What I mean by saying that Lucid puppy can use ubuntu binaries is that it is easier than ever to prepare programs for use in a Puppy. You can see that from the list of programs in QuickPackage, I did several of those per day (01micko did some and a few were adopted from earlier Puppies). Personally, I have put the energy into making sure that a small number of very high quality programs are available for LuciPup and that they are configured and tested for LuciPup and available with a one-click install. Those are the ones in QP. That is not what apt/synaptic would give us even in the best of conditions. On the idea that LuciPup is to be friendly and easy, I think the one-click install with the big pretty colorful icons is desirable. i hope that makes sense.


Yes of course it makes sense. Smile

95% of my time (probably 100% of the work I do) is spent on a handful of programs: openoffice, firefox, thunderbird, foxit, so getting those to work on a one click install is really appreciated.

The other 5% is spent mucking around - I'm a Windows refugee, not a developer / programmer and however ugly a solution apt/synaptic is, it makes life really easy for people like me. Having said that, I recognise that getting it to work for a frugal install is hard (I did follow all the discussions for the dpup attempt) and not on the radar for 5.0. I was just curious if anybody had had a go getting it to work.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
01micko


Joined: 11 Oct 2008
Posts: 7547
Location: qld

PostPosted: Fri 23 Apr 2010, 06:46    Post subject:  

Hi all

I just compiled Joe Wing's latest JWM revision 490. in lupu-009. Seems to work just fine for me. Apparently there were some problems with assigning keyboard shortcuts and with this version it is fixed.

Source from joewing.net

restart X after installation

Cheers

PETSPECS

jwm-490-Lucid-i486|jwm|490-Lucid-i486||BuildingBlock|184K||jwm-490-Lucid-i486.pet|x-window system|window manager|ubuntu|lucid||
jwm-490-Lucid-i486.pet
Description 
pet

 Download 
Filename  jwm-490-Lucid-i486.pet 
Filesize  74.12 KB 
Downloaded  232 Time(s) 

_________________
Woof Mailing List | keep the faith Cool |

Last edited by 01micko on Fri 23 Apr 2010, 08:44; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website 
01micko


Joined: 11 Oct 2008
Posts: 7547
Location: qld

PostPosted: Fri 23 Apr 2010, 08:23    Post subject:  

I have also compiled GtkDialog Patriot Edition .. source from here.

It is the same one BarryK uses in Quirky and the latest known version of GtkDialog.

The main executable is gtkdialog3 but I have made a symlink to it called gtkdialog, that will run gtkdialog scripts not made in Puppy. Also compiled on 009. Works fine. Many of zigbert's newer apps will work better with this one, notably Pburn and DuDE.

Also included is a DOC pet needed for the devx,sfs. It has all the examples which are an important tool for developers, they are missing from all lupu's devx so far.

Cheers

PETSPECS

gtkdialog3-0.7.20-pe1-Lucid|gtkdialog3|0.7.20-pe1-Lucid||BuildingBlock|188K||gtkdialog3-0.7.20-pe1-Lucid.pet|x-window system|GtkDialog|ubuntu|lucid||

gtkdialog3_DOC-0.7.20-pe1-Lucid|gtkdialog3_DOC|0.7.20-pe1-Lucid||BuildingBlock|328K||gtkdialog3_DOC-0.7.20-pe1-Lucid.pet|gtkdialog|GtkDialog3 documentation||||
gtkdialog3-0.7.20-pe1-Lucid.pet
Description 
pet

 Download 
Filename  gtkdialog3-0.7.20-pe1-Lucid.pet 
Filesize  62.89 KB 
Downloaded  247 Time(s) 
gtkdialog3_DOC-0.7.20-pe1-Lucid.pet
Description  for DEVX
pet

 Download 
Filename  gtkdialog3_DOC-0.7.20-pe1-Lucid.pet 
Filesize  19.61 KB 
Downloaded  229 Time(s) 

_________________
Woof Mailing List | keep the faith Cool |
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website 
aarf

Joined: 30 Aug 2007
Posts: 3620
Location: around the bend

PostPosted: Fri 23 Apr 2010, 09:06    Post subject:  

lupu009:
quickpackage v1.2: click pwidgets icon and the gui then blanks out and nothing seems to happen, same in lupu008.

cosmetics:
file system> file managers> rox ; one sub menu too many.
same in graphics>graphics processing> only two to chose from so reduce it to previous menu.
and business> calculate> ditto
document> document publishing>abiword too far for just one option.

quickpet icon is over connect icon on initial boot.

_________________

ASUS EeePC Flare series 1025C 4x Intel Atom N2800 @ 1.86GHz RAM 2063MB 800x600p ATA 320G
_-¤-_

<º))))><.¸¸.•´¯`•.#.•´¯`•.¸¸. ><((((º>
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website 
01micko


Joined: 11 Oct 2008
Posts: 7547
Location: qld

PostPosted: Fri 23 Apr 2010, 09:27    Post subject:  

hello aarf

Pwidgets is hosted on Caneri's puppylinux.ca server and the last few days he has had problems on and off. Worked ok for me. Perhaps I'll put in an error message if the server, whatever server it may be, has a problem.

Cheers

_________________
Woof Mailing List | keep the faith Cool |
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website 
Display posts from previous:   Sort by:   
Page 20 of 87 [1297 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, ..., 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, ..., 85, 86, 87 Next
Post new topic   Reply to topic View previous topic :: View next topic
 Forum index » Advanced Topics » Puppy Projects
Jump to:  

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
[ Time: 0.0935s ][ Queries: 13 (0.0103s) ][ GZIP on ]