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#141 Post by Henry »

DaveS wrote:Henry, try adding the 'pfix=fsck' command to your boot parameter. This seems to stop/fix .wh files. If you are using Grub, the entry would look like this:

/431/vmlinuz pfix=fsck pmedia=atahd psubdir=431
Thanks, Dave, for that observation. It doesn't apply in my case as described above, however.

1. I use a live CD only, not a full installation, no grub.
2. My main objective here is to avoid rebooting as a way to restore lost free space.
3. pfix=fsck restores the lost free space but does not delete the .wh files, which are the problem.

Other than that - great :-)

Henry

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#142 Post by nooby »

Hope it is ok to ask, how does one know one have these .wh files in pupsave? what do I use to look for them and to delete them?
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

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#143 Post by Henry »

nooby wrote:Hope it is ok to ask, how does one know one have these .wh files in pupsave? what do I use to look for them and to delete them?
Of course you might not have any, but it's easy to check. I just use pfind to search for .wh

This will tell you where they are. Go there with your file manager and delete them.

Henry

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#144 Post by Ray MK »

Hi Henry

Finally - found them - hope they work.

regards - Ray
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#145 Post by Henry »

Ray MK wrote:Hi Henry
Finally - found them - hope they work.
regards - Ray
They do seem to. Many thanks! I first went back and read the relevant threads, and your concerns seemed similar to mine.

cleanup_whiteouts_daemon.pet appears in the package manger and presumably can be uninstalled if desired.

cleanup_memory I unarchived and placed in /mnt/home/ where it can be run when desired.
EDIT: On second thought I placed it in /root/Startup/.

I had not been even thinking about memory utilization, but the effect is very interesting. See the screen shot. (You'll have to mentally line up the columns.)
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#146 Post by nooby »

NOP is one of the best puppies.

To mount a usb drive in frugal install failed on puppy stardust for me.
Not sure what error I made.

but it works on NOP 431 so maybe that one will be my main puppie then.
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EXACTLY what I have wanted in a Puplet !!!

#147 Post by Flash858 »

Gray - Fantastic job, I love this version, and it will be my main distro for 2010.

A couple of issues I have that are not biggies, but I would like to get ironed out:

1) ccsm will not open. I have managed to work around this by editing the compiz .ini file; copy/pasting a few sections from the compiz .ini file from my Ubuntu partition, and moving a few plug-in xml files into the Puppy partition. This allowed me to get rid of the oh-so-annoying airplane animation, and replace it with the vacuum, also enable dodge, and the sphere deformation. It just would be a lot easier if ccsm ran.

2) pwidgets is not working. Is there a workaround?

3) This may not be applicable, but I cannot change the icon spacing on the desktop. In the past, with xfce, this could be achieved by editing the xfwm4rc file. When I looked, there wasn't one, so I created it with icon grid/spacing parameters, but it did not work, even on reboot. Let me know if I am missing something.

4) Lastly, and this is more of a question, how should an icon set be installed? I'm assuming I need to copy a set over, as installing a .pet would only be for jwm/ice. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Thanks again for a great puplet!

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#148 Post by Henry »

Henry wrote:
Ray MK wrote:Hi Henry
Finally - found them - hope they work.
regards - Ray
They do seem to. Many thanks! I first went back and read the relevant threads, and your concerns seemed similar to mine.

cleanup_whiteouts_daemon.pet appears in the package manger and presumably can be uninstalled if desired.
Actually, I am not sure that cleanup_whiteouts_daemon.pet works in my system - it appears not to. Hard to tell at first since I had already deleted them. :-) And whiteouts from trying to delete something that is in the .iso may be another matter.
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#149 Post by lvds »

Hi Gray,

Congratulations for your splendid puplet ! :D
I have always loved XFCE but I have to admit it is really a great
combination when setup with puppy !!

I have been working with it on my own pc and I would like to ask
you some questions I didn't know how to answer myself:

1. in the directory listing I could find amsn.pet but I can't find any
pet or SFS for Skype latest version ; do you know where there is one
or could you build one please ?

2. though I love Opera and use it, in my country we have websites
providing online television that works only with firefox and vlc and
mozilla-vlc-plugin. I have tried for many months to find some other ways but
it seems we have to use this softwares ; it is not just for some web-tv,
these are the real country tv-channels like on cable or satellite network.
So, is there already a SFS ready to use with NOP for Firefox+vlc-plugin
and another SFS for VLC ?

3. maybe you remember I worked a lot too to produce a puplet based
on XFCE some years ago (named eXpand) and I would like to know
if you have a barebone version for NOP with only the minimal puppy
software plus XFCE ? ...maybe it would help a lot for future creations :-)

4. how did you make it ? did you start from another barebone or from
woof ? and if so how did you do it ? :P

5. for easy inclusion into NOP, could you build some more SFS for the
following software: GnuPaint, gThumb, XFE, Rhythmbox please ?

Many thanks in advance for taking the time to answer me :oops:
You made a great work and I hope I will have chance to learn more
tips so to build myself such good tools.

Best regards
Laurent

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#150 Post by slvrldy17 »

Tried running 4.31 NOP on a Dell Mini 9 - a gift from my sister - regular LAN is recognized but not the internal Broadcom Wifi - tried the version of regular 4.31 with Tempestuous's fix built in and it works - any plans to incorporate the fix into NOP? Thanks and keep up the good work!
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Burned And Booted on Panasonic CF-48

#151 Post by rokytnji »

Downloaded, Md5sum ISO, burned a cd in Gnomebaker in AntiX rc3. Rebooted. Found my
DESCRIPTION: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2915ABG Network Connection
VENDOR: 8086 DEVICE: 4223 KERNEL MODULE: ipw2200
and connected wireless just fine. Lot of nice tools in the Menu :D .

Next step is to install into new secondary Hardrive (cost: $3.00) in Motorcycle shop Desktop. Uses a Raylink Wireless PCI Card,

Nice OS Gray. Image

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Shop Computer

#152 Post by rokytnji »

Install was Painless Wireless
DESCRIPTION: RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI
VENDOR: 1814 DEVICE: 0301 KERNEL MODULE: rt61pci
connected up just fine.

This is on a older IBM M41 Desktop with 2, 40 gig IDE HDs.
sda1 is Windows XP dualboot with AntiX
sdb1 is Nop on 5 gig with the rest of the drive formatted as Fat32 label Data for storage.

Opera 10.10 is cool by me :) . Hulu/Youtube working out of the box.
Java is easier to install in Opera 10.10 than in Firefox 3.6 or IceApe, (though I have done this).

Love the terminal.

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trouble with pdvdrsab in nop431?

#153 Post by wizzerd02 »

Well, I tried to rip shrink author all in one step using pdvdrsab in nop 431.
This resulted in a file too big for dvd. So I ripped and used vamps from command line and this worked fine. Then I tried pdvdrsab to author and again this worked fine. So I tried to burn the resulting directory with pdvdrsab and nothing happens. the window just disappears. Is there a log somewhere?

So is anyone else having trouble with pdvdrsab in NOP 431?

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#154 Post by rokytnji »

Is there a log somewhere?
You didn't see anything in /var/log?


So is anyone else having trouble with pdvdrsab in NOP 431?
Sorry, No DVD burner where I have Nop installed. Just CDRW/DVDROM.

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#155 Post by wizzerd02 »

no nothing in /var/log

when i try to burn something does flash up on the screen for about a nanosecond and dissappears so I don't know what it says

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#156 Post by steve_s »

Gray: wow! Great job! 8)

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#157 Post by adXok »

OK, I love Puppy NOP 431 but I have a big problem.

1. The File manager seems to not recognize Cyrillic named files. I cannot even rename a file to put cyrillic letters on its name. It says that:

Invalid byte sequence in conversion input.

which is rediculous!!! Common guys that is a BIG minus here!

2. I cannot understand how to make an icon of a program (like Skype) on my desktop
(I make a shortcut but the icon is a gear like icon... and I cannot change that icon to something more candy and obvious)

3. How to FIX all these issues?
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#158 Post by adXok »

Seems like the problem is with 'Thunar' (File Manager)

How can I uninstall it and unistall the default audio (Xfmedia) and video (Xine) players?
Oh, that is so irritating. How can I uninstall puppy default programs?!?


Thank you in advance!

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#159 Post by steve_s »

adXok wrote:Seems like the problem is with 'Thunar' (File Manager)

How can I uninstall it and unistall the default audio (Xfmedia) and video (Xine) players?
Oh, that is so irritating. How can I uninstall puppy default programs?!?


Thank you in advance!
This is not a Puppy default, but a NOP default...hopefully Gray can give some input as to how to change the defaults for NOP.

Do you need to remove the media player or just add something else? You can always ad like gmplayer then right click the options for that program and have it call the gmplayer rather than xine.

Now, as far as putting something on the desktop, that's an XFCE deal. The easiest way is to go to where the application desktop files are (I think /usr/share/applications/) and drag the program you want from there onto the desktop. Or make your own desktop file emulating one of those and drag it onto the desktop from there.

(hope that helps...i'm in Windows land right now or I'd give specifics).

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#160 Post by adXok »

Hm if it wasn't that lack with cyrillic support in Thunar and the awful media players I would stick with NOP. It is a great derivative because of the XFCE.

If you know some other Puppy derivative with XFCE, please let me know. And of course I would like stick to the concept: one app for a task ;)

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