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Lucid Puppy 5.0.1 - 24 May 2010
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stu90


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PostPosted: Sun 04 Apr 2010, 23:06    Post subject:  

Great idea with the browser choice - downloaded iron all seems to work ok.

would it be possible to have the updated blinky in lupup that ttuuxxx has added to 4.3.2 official?

I also change my default volume and pwireless2 tray icons for ubuntu ones - if any use for lupup here is .png download light/dark.
http://rapidshare.com/files/372114204/volume.tar.gz.html







thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon 05 Apr 2010, 02:48    Post subject:  

Quote:
What does everyone think of this idea?


It is good
I hope playdayz will comment
As far as I understand it, he is using HTML
and netsurf

I would add Netsurf to your list - We DO have
a minimal browser already in Lucid Smile

So for Netsurf it would just change the default browser, for the others it would install and change
to other browsers. If the browser was already on the system could it swap or uninstall as an option?

I would also think about how your program could be used in other Puppys - Are you using GTKdialog?

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01micko


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PostPosted: Mon 05 Apr 2010, 03:08    Post subject:  

Quote:
I would also think about how your program could be used in other Puppys - Are you using GTKdialog?


Yes it is, and your thought is spot on! It could be used in any Puppy.

I have designed it with a configurable config file so that the browser can be sourced from any repo on the planet, or if possible off the planet. Cool The config file is mainly designed for the lead developer to change to what ever repo suits his distro. I un-hardcoded it.. Rolling Eyes

I am just running some final tests on the first draft, Some things are slightly broken, but that is where the config file comes in. It is located at $HOME/.browser-links.config. Anyone can edit it if they know what to do, it is fairly straightforward.

I have added Flash and Java, so puppy need not ship with flash either. That link is working. Java is disabled .. on purpose. I'll leave it up to playdayz if he wants to use it, and if so he can put in the links he wants, very easily.

Well, while I'm typing it passed the test! .. uploading now

Be warned, this is experimental! Use at own risk, I suggest backup pupsave or try pfix=ram

Cheers and enjoy

EDIT: only try Thunderbird if you want to chase dependencies, it is from the Ubuntu Lucid repo... NO .. you can't now I disabled
Also grabbing seamonkey-1.1.19 presented a bug.

Remember, this app does not claim to be stable, it is really a concept
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PostPosted: Mon 05 Apr 2010, 03:38    Post subject:  

Just used it to install Seamonkey 2 Smile
(yep I am using at my own risk)

I would eventually put Flash and Java
into other menus

Are you also thinking of adding major packages
such as Open Office - but then it starts to become a package manager - so not right. Unthink. Rolling Eyes

The code can be seen in (just load into a text editor)
/usr/sbin/browser-installer
might inspire improvements other projects

Good simple to understand/modify code

Many thanks

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pemasu


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PostPosted: Mon 05 Apr 2010, 03:48    Post subject:  

Thunderbird error when installing from 01micko installer:

Code:
bash-3.00# thunderbird
/usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0.4/thunderbird-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libxcb-aux.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
bash-3.00#


Thunderbird 3.0.4 standalone installation does not contain that libxcb-aux.so.0. And it works ok from its own folder at /mnt/home.

I chased depencies more. I installed next three by package manager but then I got ssl3 error. See the attachment.
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PostPosted: Mon 05 Apr 2010, 04:00    Post subject:  

Hi pemasu

Yeah, I knew about that, that's why the early edit, but I made a bright bold edit now. I haven't figured out how to resolve dependencies, but in saying that, it is mainly designed in mind for puppy repos. I should add password capabilities so that passwords are ok with the repos that require those. On the to do list.

Of course that's providing playdayz likes the offering Smile

Cheers

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pemasu


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PostPosted: Mon 05 Apr 2010, 04:11    Post subject:  

The installer is brilliant and needed addon. The opportunity to install your favourite browser and e-mail client should stop the discussion which one should be included with distro. And so focus energy to more fruitful direction. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon 05 Apr 2010, 08:06    Post subject:  

How about transmission bit torrent client for one click instillation?
seems to be a very popular forum download:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=1024514150&t=38969
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PostPosted: Mon 05 Apr 2010, 09:32    Post subject:  

01micko. Browser installer. Beautiful. I haven't tried it; I just got up and I have to do my paying job for a while. You say it opens petget. I wonder if it could just install the browser itself--then it would be truly one-click. I have been thinking of course about extending the Choose Your Own idea--but right now I am thinking to stay only with Add Your Own Browser--plus maybe browser related programs. Let's keep thinking. Flash should be installed already--it is small, so no need for that in the BI (Browser Installer). My reasoning is that it might get complicated by presenting noobies too many choices. Everyone knows about the browsers, but I think many would not know about email programs, etc. Does that make sense. Let's keep thinking Wink Of course we could add to the list of things that BI could do in subsequent versions.
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PostPosted: Mon 05 Apr 2010, 09:47    Post subject:  

I believe there are preferences for email clients also. People use Opera, Seamonkey, Simple mail addon with Firefox, Claws, Sylpheed (maybe Smile ), and Thunderbird, which has become my favourite. Also Gmail with favourite browser is used a lot.

So possibility to use your favourite client or to not install at all is something which should be considered.

I like 01mickos installer idea for making your own decision.

But this is just my HO. This should not be considered as persuasion.

Anyway I like Upup and the direction it is going.
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PostPosted: Mon 05 Apr 2010, 10:49    Post subject:  

Quote:
I like 01mickos installer idea for making your own decision.


Have not tested but love the idea one have a choice.

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PostPosted: Mon 05 Apr 2010, 13:13    Post subject:  

lupup desktop walpaper:
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/9061/deskfullu.png


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PostPosted: Mon 05 Apr 2010, 14:18    Post subject:  

Couple of observation more:

- Cups Printer Wizard uses netsurf, but it does not handle Admin pages option boxes right, it isnt possible to scroll them succesfully or it does not handle the choice. I had to open http://localhost:631 in firefox to get my HP LJ 1020 configured. After that it worked. I used foo2xxx_r220909-0.0-i486.pet succesfully, it is needed for hotplugin folder creation for HP LJ1020 model.

- Pnethood scans Windows machines really slow. I checked the difference with Stardust, it took couple of seconds and with Lupu couple of minutes, at least, repeatedly. Twice my WLAN-ADSL router went offline after probing and I had to reboot it. Coincidence maybe. Anyway lameSMBxplorer works normal fast and shares are available.

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PostPosted: Mon 05 Apr 2010, 16:09    Post subject: Black screen after system starts  

After typing the boot parameter pfix=ram the system shows a black screen. At the same laptop Puppy431 is running.

Is perhaps memory to small?
Hardware: Pentium III 700Mhz - 160MB Ram - Intel 440BX/ZX

PS: I managed it with boot parameter acpi=off
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PostPosted: Tue 06 Apr 2010, 02:16    Post subject:  

OK folks

Just compiled the latest JWM snapshot, I think the icon bug might be beat! Please test. I really hope it is beat! (shame the "k" bug isn't yet)

(Love those walls Stu)

Cheers

ICONS TO TEST
-the "Pcur" icon in the desktop menu is a notable one, for me it had a pink background, it is ok now.

-geany icon, of course you need geany text editor to test it, mine had a white washy background, is fine now.

-aarf, you can test them all!

Important! the 'libpixman' needs to be rolled back to the original version, it is attached not needed for lupu-oo2 and less unless you installed the libpixman fix

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