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jpeps
Joined: 31 May 2008 Posts: 3217
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Posted: Mon 15 Mar 2010, 14:02 Post subject:
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zigbert wrote: | jpeps wrote: | Any admin changes that effect pup_save files get placed in a /etc/skel folder which can get copied (eg, to $HOME) and thus saved. Then, just note changed files for updates. | I thought easy upgrade was the main target for the idea of pup_save. - Save your pup_save file, and all personal additions are stored??? Why store things elsewhere?
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Maybe I'm getting confused.....To update, I have to use pfix=ram, so can't use my old pup_save, and instead start from scratch building a new one. Am I missing something here?
If changed environmental/config files were placed in /etc/skel, the user could boot with the old pup_save, and simply copy over altered files without starting from scratch....no pfix=ram. Reboot and all is well.
At least I think that's how it works.
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DaveS

Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Posts: 3726 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon 15 Mar 2010, 14:09 Post subject:
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May have been mentioned before: something is wrong with the USB install (install created via Universal Installer), reports 431.sfs not found. Used initrd.gz and vmlinuz from generic 4.3 to fix it. Probably initrd.gz error?
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bigpup

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Posted: Mon 15 Mar 2010, 22:35 Post subject:
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Zigbert wrote:
Quote: | bigpup wrote:
One small bug to report:
At start-up the Retrovol settings window is open on desktop..
Is this a fresh install or any kind of upgrade? |
This is a fresh, full hard drive install of Stardust 013, made with 01micko's pup_stardust-012.iso___pup_stardust-013.iso.delta update to Stardust 012.
One thing not sure about. When I did the delta update to Stardust 012, it made a new file called new file.iso I had to rename it to Stardust 013.iso
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01micko

Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 8670 Location: qld
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Posted: Tue 16 Mar 2010, 01:08 Post subject:
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That is a known issue with the older version of Xdelta, instructions are linked to in my signature.
(easiest way is to rename .delta file BEFORE using.. if you have old delta with ":" replace "___" with ":")
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trio

Joined: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 2083 Location: अनुमोदना
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Posted: Tue 16 Mar 2010, 04:37 Post subject:
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Ziggy,
You might want to implement this:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=53493
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sinc

Joined: 22 Jul 2009 Posts: 523 Location: Tampa, FL USA
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Posted: Tue 16 Mar 2010, 11:53 Post subject:
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bigpup wrote:
One small bug to report:
At start-up the Retrovol settings window is open on desktop..
Is this a fresh install or any kind of upgrade?
same situation here with a fresh frugal install. on bootup retroval was open under the setup screen
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zigbert

Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Posts: 6541 Location: Valåmoen, Norway
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Posted: Tue 16 Mar 2010, 14:07 Post subject:
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jpeps wrote: | Maybe I'm getting confused.....To update, I have to use pfix=ram | pup-431 in Stardust 013 may be changed to future pup-431 files without pfix=ram.
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zigbert

Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Posts: 6541 Location: Valåmoen, Norway
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Posted: Tue 16 Mar 2010, 14:12 Post subject:
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DaveS wrote: | May have been mentioned before: something is wrong with the USB install (install created via Universal Installer), reports 431.sfs not found. Used initrd.gz and vmlinuz from generic 4.3 to fix it. Probably initrd.gz error? | I see......initrd.gz is grabbed from jrb's special edition of Puppy 4.3.1 to support newer broadcom wifi-chips. If you like to dive into this, it would be great if you'd tested this iso, just to see if usb-install works here. I think the problem only occurs when installing to a vfat partition. I have Stardust on my pen (ext2), and it works just fine.
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zigbert

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Posted: Tue 16 Mar 2010, 14:13 Post subject:
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Hmmm
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zigbert

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Posted: Tue 16 Mar 2010, 14:14 Post subject:
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sinc wrote: | bigpup wrote:
One small bug to report:
At start-up the Retrovol settings window is open on desktop..
Is this a fresh install or any kind of upgrade?
same situation here with a fresh frugal install. on bootup retroval was open under the setup screen | Added to bug-list
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DaveS

Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Posts: 3726 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue 16 Mar 2010, 14:28 Post subject:
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zigbert wrote: | DaveS wrote: | May have been mentioned before: something is wrong with the USB install (install created via Universal Installer), reports 431.sfs not found. Used initrd.gz and vmlinuz from generic 4.3 to fix it. Probably initrd.gz error? | I see......initrd.gz is grabbed from jrb's special edition of Puppy 4.3.1 to support newer broadcom wifi-chips. If you like to dive into this, it would be great if you'd tested this iso, just to see if usb-install works here. I think the problem only occurs when installing to a vfat partition. I have Stardust on my pen (ext2), and it works just fine.
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Negative. Installed to ext2 usb, NOT vfat
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jpeps
Joined: 31 May 2008 Posts: 3217
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Posted: Tue 16 Mar 2010, 14:42 Post subject:
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zigbert wrote: | jpeps wrote: | Maybe I'm getting confused.....To update, I have to use pfix=ram | pup-431 in Stardust 013 may be changed to future pup-431 files without pfix=ram.
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So we can trust that there will never be any new config/environment files that get updated and overwritten by pup_save files?
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bigpup

Joined: 11 Oct 2009 Posts: 10290 Location: Charleston S.C. USA
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Posted: Tue 16 Mar 2010, 15:37 Post subject:
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bigpup wrote:
Quote: | One thing not sure about. When I did the delta update to Stardust 012, it made a new file called new file.iso I had to rename it to Stardust 013.iso |
01micko wrote:
Quote: | That is a known issue with the older version of Xdelta, instructions are linked to in my signature. Wink
(easiest way is to rename .delta file BEFORE using.. if you have old delta with ":" replace "___" with ":") |
So Stardust 013, 012 have the old version of Xdelta program?
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zigbert

Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Posts: 6541 Location: Valåmoen, Norway
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Posted: Tue 16 Mar 2010, 17:05 Post subject:
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jpeps wrote: | So we can trust that there will never be any new config/environment files that get updated and overwritten by pup_save files? | You can never trust a home brewed os.
Stardust will only get small updates from now on. We should focus on Puppy 4.4. - so, yes. - I think it will be ok to replace pup-431 in future update. Anyway, - I have no intentions to make myself a os-manager. - I think we have enough derivates.
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zigbert

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Posted: Tue 16 Mar 2010, 17:06 Post subject:
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DaveS wrote: | zigbert wrote: | DaveS wrote: | May have been mentioned before: something is wrong with the USB install (install created via Universal Installer), reports 431.sfs not found. Used initrd.gz and vmlinuz from generic 4.3 to fix it. Probably initrd.gz error? | I see......initrd.gz is grabbed from jrb's special edition of Puppy 4.3.1 to support newer broadcom wifi-chips. If you like to dive into this, it would be great if you'd tested this iso, just to see if usb-install works here. I think the problem only occurs when installing to a vfat partition. I have Stardust on my pen (ext2), and it works just fine.
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Negative. Installed to ext2 usb, NOT vfat | Please give a note to jrb
Thank you!
Sigmund
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