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Multiple screens with KDE

#441 Post by tazoc »

Hi Q5sys,
I think this is more of a Puppy question rather than KDE. The display setup is done by /usr/sbin/xorgwizard which doesn't know about KDE and probably doesn't need to. Although I haven't set up dual-monitor, Xinerama or Multi-view, I imagine it involves editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf, or depending on the driver you chose in xorgwizard, possibly exit to CL and type 'aticonfig --initial=dual-head --screen-layout=right' or 'aticonfig --help' for the ATI Catalyst 9.9 driver in Mariner, or 'nvidia-xconfig --help' for the nVidia driver in Mariner. I don't have any idea for an Intel adapter, probably xorg.conf would need to be edited or maybe 'xrandr' in a terminal can do it.

If you're using MU's Xorg/xserver 1.6.3/Intel, you might want to try posting on that thread.

Here are some links I found:
Forum index » Advanced Topics » Hardware » Video
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=52471
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=273495

Hope that helps,
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#442 Post by Q5sys »

TazOC,
Thanks for the input, Ive read through those threads, but they've been of no help. As far as xorgwizard sees, I only have 1 monitor. KDE however sees both of them, and I can clone without trouble, just cant extend the desktop. In fact...
If I run the xorgwizard at startup then the system only sees one monitor @ 1280x800. If I plug in another monitor then I have to rerun the xorgwizard, at which point it then sees one monitor at 1024x768 (but will display on both screens as a clone).
However the xorg.conf files say the same thing except for the resolution difference, nothing more about screen or monitor 0 and 1

However If I start off with xorg thinking I only have the 1280x800, and plug in a second monitor and start KDE, KDE automatically starts outputting to that screen as a clone without having to touch the Xorg wizard. KDE detects the resolution of each monitor and everything, it only will clone the image though.

I have never been able to get xorgwizard to detect both screens. I've even tried manually editing the data in after seeing others sample .conf files, but xorg then wont run at all.

Thats why I was thinking that the solution might be found in KDE, since xorgwizard never seemed to want to work for me, but KDE partly did.
I'll drop a post in MU's thread though, so I can attack it from that angle as well.

EDIT:
I noticed that after upgrading from F to G, truecrypt no longer works. When trying to mount an ecrypted disk I get the following:
Image
Even tried re-installing TrueCrypt.
It worked flawlessly in F, with what you've changed for the latest G version of Lighthouse, can you think of anything that might have caused this?
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#443 Post by turnip »

I tried the new version of lighthouse puppy, my broadcom 4311 worked in the past version but doesnt work in this version.

My intel 915gm wasnt working in the past version as xorg setup just froze to a black screen and compiz/wine programs that required intel drivers didnt work; but it works in this version. The xorg setup worked anyways didnt try the wine yet.

Anyone know any fixes for the broadcom issue, the thing scans and detects the networks and stuff but it doesnt connect when I hit "use".

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TrueCrypt workaround in LHP 4.43Gu1

#444 Post by tazoc »

Q5sys wrote:I noticed that after upgrading from F to G, truecrypt no longer works.

It worked flawlessly in F, with what you've changed for the latest G version of Lighthouse, can you think of anything that might have caused this?
I'm getting the same error here. Yes, I had updated '/bin/mount-FULL' to fix volume management in Dolphin and PCMan File Manager. Unfortunately truecrypt-6.3a.pet needs the Puppy version of mount-FULL. I'm attaching the one that works with TrueCrypt. As yet I don't have a solution that works for both TrueCrypt and Dolphin/PCManFM, but if you use TC in LHP 4.43Gu1 this will make it work again.
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Re: TrueCrypt workaround in LHP 4.43Gu1

#445 Post by Q5sys »

tazoc wrote:
Q5sys wrote:I noticed that after upgrading from F to G, truecrypt no longer works.

It worked flawlessly in F, with what you've changed for the latest G version of Lighthouse, can you think of anything that might have caused this?
I'm getting the same error here. Yes, I had updated '/bin/mount-FULL' to fix volume management in Dolphin and PCMan File Manager. Unfortunately truecrypt-6.3a.pet needs the Puppy version of mount-FULL. I'm attaching the one that works with TrueCrypt. As yet I don't have a solution that works for both TrueCrypt and Dolphin/PCManFM, but if you use TC in LHP 4.43Gu1 this will make it work again.
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TazOC,
Thanks for the info and the gz. With my setup right now, TC is more important to me than Dolphin (as I use Thunar for file management)
Do you know off the top of your head if the older versions of TC also needed that version of mount-FULL?
Somewhere I have a backup copy of the 5.x, 6.1 and 6.2 pets of TC. Would it be worth it to you for me to check with those older versions of TC and see if one is natively compatible with 4.43Gu1? Or do you know the answer to that already?

One other thing, I was reading THIS thread about setting up a dialog to ask to save the session at shutdown instead of automatically doing it.
The person who wrote the post mentioned to look for: /usr/sbin/snapmergepuppy /initrd/pup_ro1 /initrd/pup_rw
and then replace it with the coding he supplied. However when I open /etc/rc.d/rc.shutdown I see that code in there 3 times @ lines 776, 806, 812. I would have asked him but since its your puplet and you've been editing the save thing recently, you'd be a bit more in the know as to how you have it coded.

Lastly since I was talking about File managers, what conf file do I need to edit to change the default file manager? Rox is the default right now, but if I wanted to change it to Thunar or Dolphin, where is the file i'd need to edit to make that change. Or is it a much more indepth process? (I'm trying to learn as much as I can as I go)

And for all the work you've done so far and continue to do for the community with LHP and for answering my continous questions... thank you, thank you, thank you. :)

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Re: TrueCrypt workaround in LHP 4.43Gu1

#446 Post by tazoc »

Q5sys wrote:Do you know off the top of your head if the older versions of TC also needed that version of mount-FULL?
Somewhere I have a backup copy of the 5.x, 6.1 and 6.2 pets of TC. Would it be worth it to you for me to check with those older versions of TC and see if one is natively compatible with 4.43Gu1? Or do you know the answer to that already?
I don't know, but I think it's better to stick with the latest version of TC. Thanks for the offer, though. I'm trying to find another binary for TC 6.3x that might work. There is a 'Mount Options' panel in Settings | Preferences but I don't know if anything in there would help.
One other thing, I was reading THIS thread about setting up a dialog to ask to save the session at shutdown instead of automatically doing it.
The person who wrote the post mentioned to look for: /usr/sbin/snapmergepuppy /initrd/pup_ro1 /initrd/pup_rw
and then replace it with the coding he supplied. However when I open /etc/rc.d/rc.shutdown I see that code in there 3 times @ lines 776, 806, 812. I would have asked him but since its your puplet and you've been editing the save thing recently, you'd be a bit more in the know as to how you have it coded.
From the init script, there are 3 pupmodes that use snapmergepuppy:

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#unionfs layers:                    RW (top)      RO1             RO2              PUPMODE
#full install, flash drive:           tmpfs           PDEV1                                       3
#pup_save is a partition, flash drive: tmpfs  DEV1           pup_xxx.sfs            7
#pup_save is a file, flash drive: tmpfs         pup_save.3fs pup_xxx.sfs        13
Type 'ver' in a terminal to see your current PUPMODE. So which occurrence(s) in rc.shutdown you change depends on which PUPMODEs you want to be prompted in. Looks like it's also necessary to change the save interval in Desktop Icons/Event Manager to 0 if you don't want a save to flash to occur prior to shutdown.
Lastly since I was talking about File managers, what conf file do I need to edit to change the default file manager? Rox is the default right now, but if I wanted to change it to Thunar or Dolphin, where is the file i'd need to edit to make that change. Or is it a much more indepth process? (I'm trying to learn as much as I can as I go)
I imagine there are many places in Puppy/LHP that have ROX hard-coded. The first one I'd change in LHP is /applications/FileSystem.desktop. Then you'd probably want to make another icon in Wbar for your preferred FM with Wbar Setup. So yes I'm afraid it is rather complex to totally switch over to another FM. Maybe we could set up a 'defaultfilemanager' in /usr/local/bin to use in the future.
And for all the work you've done so far and continue to do for the community with LHP and for answering my continous questions... thank you, thank you, thank you. :)
You're welcome, I appreciate your feedback; it makes LHP better and helps the community as well.
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Broadcom wifi

#447 Post by tazoc »

turnip wrote:I tried the new version of lighthouse puppy, my broadcom 4311 worked in the past version but doesnt work in this version.

Anyone know any fixes for the broadcom issue, the thing scans and detects the networks and stuff but it doesnt connect when I hit "use".
I don't recall making any changes to networking or hardware detection that could explain why it worked before but not in 4.43 Gu1. The nearest workaround I could find is here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 454#346454 but it references Broadcom 4312. A custom puplet discussed by tempestuous in that post "isn't even compatible with all Broadcom wifi devices, only certain models." However the situation will hopefully improve in the future with newer kernels.
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#448 Post by Roy »

Just a quick note here, should anyone else run into the same issue I just had (and an apology if this has already been covered):

I was having trouble printing an actual .pdf version of my browser. Every time I would attempt to print (without checking the Print to File box), a quick dialog box would briefly appear and, before I had a chance to read its contents, disappear. Nothing else happened -- no prompt to save the .pdf file or anything. The newly created .pdf file just didn't appear to even exist (even after performing a file search).

[NOTE: I am not connected to a printer. I was only trying to capture a web page as a .pdf file.]

Checking the Print to File box in the print dialog box did allow a Post Script file to be properly printed and saved to my specified location.

The problem of no actual .pdf file creation was solved by adding an empty (hidden) file in root called .Xauthority

Although I did nothing to change my own computer's name, apparently /root/.Xauthority is required when the computer name is changed from puppypc to anything else. This might be the result of something in Lighthouse? Perhaps in the Mariner sfs (/etc/hostname shows a computer name 'Mariner' instead of the traditional 'puppypc')?

-Roy
The above with Lighthousepup443f and all sfs' loaded except KDE, CompizFusion, & Bibletime; snapmergepuppy.tar.gz not yet applied/updated

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/root needs an empty file called .Xauthority

#449 Post by tazoc »

Roy wrote:I was having trouble printing an actual .pdf version of my browser. Every time I would attempt to print (without checking the Print to File box), a quick dialog box would briefly appear and, before I had a chance to read its contents, disappear. Nothing else happened -- no prompt to save the .pdf file or anything. The newly created .pdf file just didn't appear to even exist (even after performing a file search).

The problem of no actual .pdf file creation was solved by adding an empty (hidden) file in root called .Xauthority

Although I did nothing to change my own computer's name, apparently /root/.Xauthority is required when the computer name is changed from puppypc to anything else. This might be the result of something in Lighthouse? Perhaps in the Mariner sfs (/etc/hostname shows a computer name 'Mariner' instead of the traditional 'puppypc')?
Hi Roy,
I was not aware of this bug and I got the same result here--your fix works and I will include it in the next release. This likely affects the base ISO as well; /etc/hostname is 'Mariner'. Thank you for pointing this out and good job finding the solution!
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#450 Post by Roy »

tazoc,

You are certainly more than welcomed and I am happy to have brought up something useful. However, it is Dingo, disciple, and rcrsn51 who deserve the real troubleshooting/solution credit. While my information was somewhat a summation of their work, more details can be found here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=51268
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 00477cd99f

As a matter of fact, it is I who should be thanking you and everyone else who shares their work so openly for my enjoyment.

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#452 Post by battleshooter »

Hey Tazoc,

I seem to be having a queer problem. I was setting up LHP G (not updated one) on a desktop computer. Everything works, except one little annoying thing, some of the keys on the keyboard don't work. The right control key, the arrow keys, the home, end, insert etc. keys don't respond. Not really sure what gives. Keyboard doesn't mess up in 4.3.1 or 4.2.0retro. No idea what the problem is so I thought I'd run it by you incase you'd come across it before.

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low power shut down

#453 Post by omskates »

Hi,
I've searched around and can't seem to find info on power management. I'd just like to have a clean shut down when battery is critically low. If there is a file to edit can you direct me towards it? Thanks! :)

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#454 Post by Artie »

Would it be possible to make an .sfs file for Google Chrome from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=53469 that will work in latest Lighthouse? I'm very happy with Lighthouse for the moment and want to stick with .sfs files for the time being as they are very unlikely to screw up anything and are so easy to install and uninstall.

Thanks.

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#455 Post by tazoc »

battleshooter wrote:Everything works, except one little annoying thing, some of the keys on the keyboard don't work. The right control key, the arrow keys, the home, end, insert etc. keys don't respond. Not really sure what gives. Keyboard doesn't mess up in 4.3.1 or 4.2.0retro. No idea what the problem is so I thought I'd run it by you incase you'd come across it before.
Hi Battleshooter,
That bug occurs for me anytime I choose Xvesa in xorgwizard. I searched the forum and could not find a proper solution, however I use this workaround: Make sure the NumLock is off. If it is on, turn it off and restart X. Then I use the arrow keys and home/end/insert on the numpad.
omskates wrote:I've searched around and can't seem to find info on power management. I'd just like to have a clean shut down when battery is critically low. If there is a file to edit can you direct me towards it? Thanks!
Hi omskates,
I don't remember what WM/desktop you are using, but if it is KDE4 open System Settings | Advanced | Power Management | General Settings | on the bottom of the right-hand panel click on Advanced Battery Settings | Battery Actions | drop-down: Shut down. I can't confirm that this setting works because I don't have access to a laptop. If it doesn't work and your batteries are detected in the Capabilities panel, try enabling full kdm by exiting X, type 'xorgwizard' | advanced options | kdm.
Hope that helps,
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Artie wrote:Would it be possible to make an .sfs file for Google Chrome from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=53469 that will work in latest Lighthouse? I'm very happy with Lighthouse for the moment and want to stick with .sfs files for the time being as they are very unlikely to screw up anything and are so easy to install and uninstall.
Hi Artie,
Sure, I extracted the pet and made an sfs:
http://www.lhpup.org/sfs/443/Google-chr ... 343.3a.sfs | md5
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#457 Post by battleshooter »

Thanks for the quick reply Tazoc. The numlock is a possible work around, but I don't think my Mum will like it, so I just downgraded it back to 4.3. Sniff.

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#458 Post by tazoc »

Battleshooter,
Were you using Xorg with a driver in LHP? I don't remember which display adapter you have, e.g. ATI/nVidia/Intel. Any details re: xorgwizard choices, xorg.conf, locale and keyboard layout selected at first boot would be helpful. Sorry for not asking about these earlier.
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#459 Post by omskates »

Thx for reply, I should have specified; I am currently JWM on this machine with the options of LXDE, IceWM and OpenBox. This is a full install so a KDE sfs would be difficult. My daughter often lets this lap top go dead, so far xorgwizard and a restart has always brought back X so not a big deal. Thx again :)

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#460 Post by battleshooter »

Hey Tazoc,

It's an Intel, and an extremely finicky one. Intel 82865G. Haven't had a single pup that will do Xorg with it. Only Xvesa works on select puppies. Nothing special with the keyboard, just a regular US setup. It's no big deal anyway Tazoc, she seems happy with 4.3, I just like LHP cause of Icewm, and all the goodies. She doesn't know what she's missing anyway. :P

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