Tpup 001 SCSI, 2.6.31.5 smp Woof puppy 5 (maybe:) ) 102MB

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#21 Post by rjbrewer »

Tried the svideo tip, didn't work.
I remember trying that with a different laptop before; it worked
but only had grey-scale, no color, with puppy.
Had to get it into "tweak" in order to use generic drivers.
No big deal; my tv screen isn't much larger than my laptop screen.

Super OS plays xorg dvd and video files fine.
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#22 Post by stu90 »

Boots ok frugal on dell inspiron 1501 - enabled touchpad tapping for mouse in keyboard/mouse wizard but its not working?

touchpad is listed as synps/2 synaptics touchpad in hard.info.

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#23 Post by Béèm »

rjbrewer wrote:I like the black background behind the menu items. :)
I don't. :x
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#24 Post by Jim1911 »

Hi ttuuxxx,

Thank you for this tpup.

Abiword still doesn't work after installing the libgnomeprint pet. However, this may be related to another problem that I've had. I tried to install Firefox 3.6 and it appeared to install fine, but wouldn't work so then I installed dbus and dbus-glib pets. This resulted in breaking Seamonkey too.

I'm posting from an Opera10.10 which is working fine.

Other successes were to install Wine 1.1.40 and e-Sword951.

Please consider modifying your gnome-games-Lite_2.26.1-i486.pet-uj to run with tpup also which has been a super addition to upup and dpup.

Looking forward to future releases,
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#25 Post by 01micko »

Jim1911 wrote:Hi ttuuxxx,

Thank you for this tpup.

Abiword still doesn't work after installing the libgnomeprint pet. However, this may be related to another problem that I've had. I tried to install Firefox 3.6 and it appeared to install fine, but wouldn't work so then I installed dbus and dbus-glib pets. This resulted in breaking Seamonkey too.

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Jim, maybe try expanding the libgnomeprint I linked to in Barry's repo. Not sure if it will work but it is a compatible lib.

You will have to delete the dbus libs and restore the originals from /initrd/pup_ro2/usr/lib if running frugal or off the CD if running full. It will be only a matter of "when" ttuuxxx compiles FF for tpup :lol: . I'm sure it will happen. :wink:

(..and if you install Pwidgets, I know you probably will, it will need the same treatment as in Quirky :wink: )
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nv and nouveau

#26 Post by shinobar »

rjbrewer wrote:Would not start xorg (black screen freeze) with my Inspiron 700m,
intel 855gm graphics. Same problem with most Quirkys.
ttuuxxx wrote:I looked into that for you, I guess newer Xorg's have issue with that
using GeForce 8800GTX with vesa driver on tpup-001.
Both nv and nouveau drivers never work on tpup-001 or on quirky-008. nv driver worked on puppy-4.3.1.

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#27 Post by Jim1911 »

01micko,
Thanks, but I'll just wait for his next release.
Jim

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Re: Abiword

#28 Post by shinobar »

Jim1911 wrote:Abiword still doesn't work after installing the libgnomeprint pet.
It sais libwv missing.

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#29 Post by James C »

Same Abiword problem as everyone.....added lib from second post....no change. Added lib posted by 01micko....no change either.

Added AlsaPlayer/Streamtuner pet....works fine and no problems with Firefox 3.6 yet.

Seems like a real solid release. :)

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#30 Post by clarf »

Béèm wrote: So I am stuck here.

EDIT

Well, all of sudden I remembered something from the good old times and saw the light.
Copied the zxxxxx.sfs to /mnt/home and now I can configure the network devices again.

I had the same results with my devices after frugal install, as Béèm reported this is a well know behavior for Woof based derivatives. See my old bug report for Puppy 4.3.1: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy//viewt ... &start=189

Although ttuuxxx used the latest Woof build, I found some other problems relate to woof that were reported long time ago.

For example the init script copied the tpup-001.sfs file to same partition than pup_save file after second boot, although I specified to not copy that file at first shutdown (pup_save creation phase). It copied it at second boot to a partition without enough disk space producing a damaged file and causing a kernel panic error at third boot. I reported it in dpup thread last year: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=303

I hope someday Barry fix those weird bugs in Woof, then we´ll have a stable base to construct new Puppy´s derivatives.

The library problem with libgnomeprintui-2-2.so.0 reported for Abiword, also affect inkscapelite and surely many other apps.

Ayytm Chat application didn´t work either, error loading share libraries: libXss.so.1

I´ll do more test and give feedback.

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#31 Post by mavrothal »

ttuuxxx wrote: - When we get a working a kernel for olpc, I'll include an extra version with it included on a regular basis.
ttuuxxx
You mean the Tpup kernel working on OLPC or a(ny) kernel that will boot Tpup on OLPC?
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#32 Post by ttuuxxx »

Here's a Abiword fix, it contains,
libgnomeprint-2.18.6
libgnomeprintui-2.18.4
wv-1.2.7
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#33 Post by ttuuxxx »

mavrothal wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote: - When we get a working a kernel for olpc, I'll include an extra version with it included on a regular basis.
ttuuxxx
You mean the Tpup kernel working on OLPC or a(ny) kernel that will boot Tpup on OLPC?
Hi mavrothal I would like to keep it as the same kernel but configured for XO, This would be the ideal method for compiling drivers etc, I'm currently using 2.6.31.5 for Tpup, there is a newer kernel, but I ready on Barry's blog it was buggy so I went with the more stable version.
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#34 Post by James C »

Abiword works now......thanks for the quick fix. :)

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#35 Post by mavrothal »

ttuuxxx wrote:Hi mavrothal I would like to keep it as the same kernel but configured for XO, This would be the ideal method for compiling drivers etc, I'm currently using 2.6.31.5 for Tpup, there is a newer kernel, but I ready on Barry's blog it was buggy so I went with the more stable version.
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This is unlikely. There are olpc kernel-hacks that are not upstream. So trying an olpc config with the vanila kernel is not going to work.

BTW aufs-patched olpc-kernel works fine with Tpup with the usual problems quirky has on the XO (Xorg, alsa, acpi etc)
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#36 Post by ttuuxxx »

mavrothal wrote:
This is unlikely. There are olpc kernel-hacks that are not upstream. So trying an olpc config with the vanila kernel is not going to work.

BTW aufs-patched olpc-kernel works fine with Tpup with the usual problems quirky has on the XO (Xorg, alsa, acpi etc)
Well couldn't those kernel-hacks also work on newer kernels? Plus I never like the word "Dirty Kernel" on a kernel, it just sounds wrong.
I sent Micko one of my 2 XO and he received it today, so I guess he'll be joining the XO puppy project soon.
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#37 Post by mavrothal »

ttuuxxx wrote: Well couldn't those kernel-hacks also work on newer kernels?
not that I know of
Plus I never like the word "Dirty Kernel" on a kernel, it just sounds wrong.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
OK. I'll change it to PATCHED I guess.
I sent Micko one of my 2 XO and he received it today, so I guess he'll be joining the XO puppy project soon.
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#38 Post by ttuuxxx »

I also tried building apup but that failed really bad, then I tried spup, and that worked, it has a couple small issues, that I'll look at, but the video drivers work much better than Tpup/Quirky. The iso with all the drivers was 110MB, probably 103MB +/- for a regular version.
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#39 Post by mavrothal »

ttuuxxx wrote:I also tried building apup but that failed really bad, then I tried spup, and that worked, it has a couple small issues, that I'll look at, but the video drivers work much better than Tpup/Quirky. The iso with all the drivers was 110MB, probably 103MB +/- for a regular version.
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If you are referring to the XO, check also if the olpc keyboard in included with the Xorg. Tpup/Quirky do not have it.
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Very dark desktop

#40 Post by black »

hey ttuuxxx,

Been waiting for an "xorg-7.5" tryout on puppy. Installed from HDD to HDD. On first bootup from HDD, all loaded o.k, but screen/desktop is very dark, nearly un-viewable. Able to access apps with icons so appears stuff is working o.k. Installed to hardrive, on first bootup, same...screen/desktop very dark, again stuff appears working but viewing horrible.

Hardware: gpu, ATI X800XT, Sony KLV-S32A10 LCD (tv as monitor via VGA)

Of interest "Quirky-008" also has the same "darkness" issue and both are using the same base. Have had no such issue with any puppy derivatives or other distros with this hardware setup, including upup and dpup. My main interest here is the latest SMP-kernel and latest Xorg.

Only thing I've tried was disabling "acpi", in case "brightness (for certain LCDs)" was creating problems, but, no-joy there. Any hints/clues/pointers to possible fixes appreciated, otherwise, it's either the kernel or xorg???

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