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tazoc


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PostPosted: Sun 07 Mar 2010, 23:08    Post subject:  

edoc wrote:
I have OxygenOffice301 but the name does not include the letters "pro", I wonder if it is the same?
Yes, I'm pretty sure it's the same suite that you have. Open one of the apps and click Help|About.
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PostPosted: Sun 07 Mar 2010, 23:11    Post subject:  

Yup, that's it!
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PostPosted: Mon 08 Mar 2010, 00:59    Post subject: 4.43G:saving your session on anything but ext2/3/4 will fail
Subject description: I will fix this as quickly as I can.
 

@All,
Jim1911 and synthplayer's results led me to find a serious bug with 4.43 G:

The pupsave tries to mount as the host partition's fstype, rather than the pupsave's fstype! This means that saving your session on anything but ext2/ext3/ext4 will fail on reboot as it did for synthplayer.

I will fix the init script, rebuild and re-upload the ISOs tomorrow, as this is a showstopper. In the meantime, I've taken the affected base and Mariner ISOs off the web site.

I have to be up early in the morning to make an important phone call, so I cannot stay up tonight to fix this, but will do so as soon as possible. I apologize for any inconvenience this has caused.
-TazOC

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PostPosted: Mon 08 Mar 2010, 08:52    Post subject:  

Hi Jim and Tazoc, I'm saving the spup443 and pupsave (512mb) files to NTFS so to have a quicker livecd bootup and leave xp as it is without affecting xp or the mbr. Just to add, when it got to check 6 on bootup it said something about dev/loop and that the filesize did not need to be altered as it was already the right size, or something like that.
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PostPosted: Mon 08 Mar 2010, 08:52    Post subject:  

Just to add, after pausing for 60 seconds, a message said that the kernal would not sync and the caps lock light was flashing and nothing happened
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PostPosted: Mon 08 Mar 2010, 09:49    Post subject:  

Run into a problem on Lighthouse Pup 4.43 G base

Frugal install on ext3 partition 1gb .3fs save file

Using open box windows manager with Opera 10.10 - 4742f.sfs web browser open
- when i try to install pwidgets from the puppy packages manager after down loading packages the lower task bar vanishes and no applications (except turn off / reboot) work from right mouse click system menu. After reboot lighthouse loads to a black screen and a cross 'X' mouse cursor.

I deleted that save file made a new one with the exact same settings and problem occurred again.
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PostPosted: Mon 08 Mar 2010, 10:44    Post subject:  

Stu90,

I guess you may have more luck when he has uploaded the fixed version?

He wrote this:

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I will fix the init script, rebuild and re-upload the ISOs tomorrow, as this is a showstopper. In the meantime, I've taken the affected base and Mariner ISOs off the web site.


so there are a whole day waiting and if you start anew with the iso he upload tomorrow and the error is still there that means you maybe found another bug?
I only have version f or F so have not had any problems.

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PostPosted: Mon 08 Mar 2010, 11:00    Post subject:  

TazOC wrote:
The pupsave tries to mount as the host partition's fstype, rather than the pupsave's fstype! This means that saving your session on anything but ext2/ext3/ext4 will fail on reboot as it did for synthplayer.

I tried renaming the pupsave on an ext4 partition from 3fs to 4fs and it would not be recognized as a pupsave. Also, I moved a pupsave.3fs from an ext4 to an ext3 partition and it worked fine, other than indicating a possible bad shutdown and losing my wbar configuration, which just required a restart wbar to correct.
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PostPosted: Mon 08 Mar 2010, 11:20    Post subject:  

synthplayer wrote:
Hi Jim and Tazoc, I'm saving the spup443 and pupsave (512mb) files to NTFS so to have a quicker livecd bootup and leave xp as it is without affecting xp or the mbr. Just to add, when it got to check 6 on bootup it said something about dev/loop and that the filesize did not need to be altered as it was already the right size, or something like that.
Good idea, however, why not go ahead with a frugal installation which can still be booted using the CD. You can easily accomplish this by creating a directory at root level and copying the files from the CD to that directory. Also, move the spupsave to that directory.

Another option to consider that won't affect your XP installation is Grub4dos which should speed boot times.
Jim
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PostPosted: Mon 08 Mar 2010, 11:39    Post subject: Re: 4.43G:saving your session on anything but ext2/3/4 will fail
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tazoc wrote:
I apologize for any inconvenience this has caused.
-TazOC


You don't need to apologize. You have worked very hard.
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PostPosted: Mon 08 Mar 2010, 12:08    Post subject:  

stu90 wrote:
Run into a problem on Lighthouse Pup 4.43 G base

Frugal install on ext3 partition 1gb .3fs save file

Using open box windows manager with Opera 10.10 - 4742f.sfs web browser open
- when i try to install pwidgets from the puppy packages manager after down loading packages the lower task bar vanishes and no applications (except turn off / reboot) work from right mouse click system menu. After reboot lighthouse loads to a black screen and a cross 'X' mouse cursor.

I deleted that save file made a new one with the exact same settings and problem occurred again.
Same thing happened to me, stu90. This is noted at the bottom of the first post under ***Bugs and quirks***. Maybe I should pop up a message before PPM launches that Pwidgets has been updated for LHP and other puplets. You can get the latest version here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=249211#249211
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PostPosted: Mon 08 Mar 2010, 12:27    Post subject:  

synthplayer & Jim1911,
Thank you for the additional information. A frugal install of 4.43G into an NTFS partition will fail also. I'm working on a fixed 4.43Gu1 and should have it up later today. I'll try to fix it so an spupsave.4fs will mount as well.
abushcrafter wrote:
You don't need to apologize. You have worked very hard.
Smile That's true I have, I just wish I had tested G on a Windows partition before starting the slow upload process; from now on I will.
Thanks,
TazOC

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PostPosted: Mon 08 Mar 2010, 12:54    Post subject:  

Hi TazOC,
If you want another machine test, PM the new init file and I'll test it on NTFS, ext3, and ext4 partitions before you upload the new iso. I unpacked your 443G initrd.gz and saw the changes that you've made to the init vs. the ones that I'd made to 443F to make it mount as 3fs, however, my limited knowledge of code doesn't provide any assistance to you. At least I can give it a test on my hardware.
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PostPosted: Mon 08 Mar 2010, 13:22    Post subject:  

Using 443G. Upgraded by xdelta. I have ext3 partition and I use ext2 savefiles. I started with fresh savefile. Should I upgrade to fixed 443G ?

Problem: wireless does not remember my savings. I have to start with load my profile and click DHCP before I can connect to net. Is it new bug or is it part of this existing problem ?
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PostPosted: Mon 08 Mar 2010, 14:05    Post subject:  

pemasu wrote:
Using 443G. Upgraded by xdelta. I have ext3 partition and I use ext2 savefiles. I started with fresh savefile. Should I upgrade to fixed 443G ?
I would, just in case you decide to save to a vfat (common on USB Flash) or ntfs partition at some point.
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Problem: wireless does not remember my savings. I have to start with load my profile and click DHCP before I can connect to net. Is it new bug or is it part of this existing problem ?
I will have to do some testing on this. In the meantime, maybe one of these threads will help: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=337639
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy//viewtopic.php?p=304116
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