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shankargopal

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PostPosted: Wed 03 Mar 2010, 05:38    Post subject:  

tazoc wrote:
shankargopal wrote:
Hi Tazoc and friends,
1) I have downloaded the Mariner ISO with the KDE SFS built in. I'd like to try using KDE 4 Desktop Effects on one of the systems which I use Puppy on (the xorg.conf of this system is attached). KDE Desktop Effects has worked before on this system in other distros (e.g. Sidux). In LH it says effects are disabled as xcomposite and xdamage extensions are not available. Is there a way I can set these up? The xorg.conf file is attached, it's not a zip, just renamed to xorg.conf.zip to allow posting. Or do I need to download the Compiz Fusion SFS?

NB: Tried running "3D-Demo" from the menu (glxgears, I presume?), got "DRI enabled should run fast", and then X crashed and dropped me to a command prompt.
Hi shankargopal, xorg.conf indicates an Intel graphics adapter was detected. If this is correct, it may not be possible to enable Desktop Effects with the Xorg driver in LHP. However some have had success with MU's Alternative Xorg/xserver 1.6.3/Intel pets, available here (experimental). Boot off your LHP CD with 'puppy pfix=ram', making a clean pupsave before trying this, just in case...


So far MU's dotpets did work, though I have only tested them once. The effects are quite slow though.
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abushcrafter


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PostPosted: Wed 03 Mar 2010, 07:50    Post subject:  

Q5sys wrote:
abushcrafter wrote:
tazoc wrote:
abushcrafter, I think others were noting that the boot menu is not available when booting from USB Flash drive, so one must either boot from the CD or use one of the workarounds posted above.
TazOC

My bad Embarassed. I had forgotten that I had a customised my "extlinux.conf". Sorry.


If you wouldnt mind sharing, I'd be interested in how you edited your conf file to allow you to change your boot options on a USB flash drive install. Smile


Here's mine:

Code:
default stardust
display /lhp/boot.msg
prompt 1
timeout 70
F1 /lhp/boot.msg
F2 /lhp/help.msg
F3 /stardust/boot.msg
F4 /stardust/help.msg
label puppy
  kernel /lhp/vmlinuz
  append initrd=/lhp/initrd.gz pmedia=usbflash acpi=force
label lhp
  kernel /lhp/vmlinuz
  append initrd=/lhp/initrd.gz pmedia=usbflash acpi=force
label c
  kernel /lhp/vmlinuz
  append initrd=/lhp/initrd.gz pmedia=usbflash acpi=force pfix=copy
label f
  kernel /lhp/vmlinuz
  append initrd=/lhp/initrd.gz pmedia=usbflash acpi=force pfix=fsck
label fc
  kernel /lhp/vmlinuz
  append initrd=/lhp/initrd.gz pmedia=usbflash acpi=force pfix=copy,fsck
label ram
  kernel /lhp/vmlinuz
  append initrd=/lhp/initrd.gz pmedia=usbflash acpi=force pfix=ram
label noram
  kernel /lhp/vmlinuz
  append initrd=/lhp/initrd.gz pmedia=usbflash acpi=force pfix=noram
label nox
  kernel /lhp/vmlinuz
  append initrd=/lhp/initrd.gz pmedia=usbflash acpi=force pfix=nox
label diag
  kernel /lhp/vmlinuz
  append initrd=/lhp/initrd.gz ide=nodma debug pmedia=usbflash acpi=force pfix=ram,nox
label memtest
  kernel memtest
label h
  localboot 0x80
label lb0
  localboot 0x80
label lb1
  localboot 0x81
label lb2
  localboot 0x82
label lb3
  localboot 0x83
label lb4
  localboot 0x84
label lb5
  localboot 0x85
label lb6
  localboot 0x86
label lbf
  localboot 0x00


label stardust
  kernel /stardust/vmlinuz
  append initrd=/stardust/initrd.gz pmedia=usbflash


In sub folders I have a copy's of:
Code:
boot.msg
help.msg

one set form LightHousePup the other form Stardust. I also have the file "logo.16" on the root of my drive. Also take note that "vmlinuz" and "initrd.gz" are in subfolders, one set form LightHousePup the other form Stardust.
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abushcrafter


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PostPosted: Fri 05 Mar 2010, 06:23    Post subject:  

Updates for:

libgphoto2: 2.4.8
gtkam: 0.1.17
gphoto2: 2.4.8

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=37453
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tazoc


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Location: Lower Columbia Basin WA US

PostPosted: Sat 06 Mar 2010, 19:27    Post subject:  

Hi abushcrafter,
Thanks for the link. I've built the packages there and lots more into Lighthouse Pup 4.43 G and have just begun uploading the ISOs. The new release includes support for an Xfce add-on SFS, updates to Wine and Wbar Setup. I will post when everything is ready, hopefully tomorrow sometime...
TazOC

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tazoc


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PostPosted: Sun 07 Mar 2010, 14:30    Post subject: Lighthouse Pup 4.43 G released  

Lighthouse Pup 4.43 G released
* Abiword 2.8, Wine 1.1.39, winetricks and 27 other apps and libraries updated (thanks to abushcrafter)
* Support for Xfce4 with the optional SFS (suggested by Flash858)
* Improved reliability for Wbar launcher with icon validity checking and a troubleshooter (thanks to walter90)
* Personal storage file (pupsave) enhancements full release notes

Mariner, KDE, and Voyager add-on packs updated to 4G
* Firefox 3.6, aqualung skins, GQview-2.1.5, Xarchiver-0.5.2svn
* Updated Wbar Setup for KDE (suggested by Jim1911)
* Full release notes

Xfce-4.6.1a.sfs add-on Xfce 4.6.1 and Thunar File Manager 1.0.1 for Lighthouse Pup 4.43 G or later
-TazOC

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edoc


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PostPosted: Sun 07 Mar 2010, 18:03    Post subject:  

I am curious as to why Abiword rather than OxygenOffice?

I have never been able to get reliable 2-way support for the various MS iterations of word docs and some others from prior versions of Abiword but OxygenOffice seems to handle everything with excellence.

Not criticizing, just wondering ...

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Jim1911

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Location: Texas, USA

PostPosted: Sun 07 Mar 2010, 18:29    Post subject:  

Well, you've outdone yourself again with another great release that is working fine. I was really excited to see that the pupsave file system is created and mounted ext3 on an ext3/ext4/reiserfs host partition incorporating tune2fs -o journal_data_ordered for the 3fs pupsave (and all this was done by automatically detecting the type partition used by the installation). You are really leading the way on this feature.

I have Lighthouse on an ext4 partition and the output of the mount command appears to indicate that the save type is ext4, even though my spupsave-443g.3fs led me to expect that the pupsave would be mounted as ext3. Anyway, it appears to be working fine and I am pleased that it is a data-ordered ext4 file system. I'll also try it on an ext3 partition and report back.
Code:
bash-3.00# mount
rootfs on / type rootfs (rw,relatime)
/dev/sda4 on /initrd/mnt/dev_save type ext4 (rw,noatime,barrier=1,data=ordered)
/dev/loop1 on /initrd/pup_rw type ext4 (rw,noatime,barrier=1,data=ordered)
tmpfs on /initrd/mnt/tmpfs type tmpfs (rw,relatime,size=209108k)
/dev/loop0 on /initrd/pup_ro2 type squashfs (ro,noatime)
/dev/loop4 on /initrd/pup_ro4 type squashfs (ro,noatime)
/dev/loop5 on /initrd/pup_ro5 type squashfs (ro,noatime)
/dev/loop6 on /initrd/pup_ro6 type squashfs (ro,noatime)
/dev/loop7 on /initrd/pup_ro7 type squashfs (ro,noatime)
unionfs on / type aufs (rw,relatime,si=83944ef)
tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs (rw,relatime,size=3053504k)
none on /proc type proc (rw,relatime)
none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,relatime,gid=2,mode=620)
none on /sys type sysfs (rw,relatime)
none on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw,relatime)
<root> ~
bash-3.00#

Presently, my only added software (non Lighthouse) is e-Sword which is running great. However, there is a missing MFC42.DLL that must be added as I've indicated in a How To that I posted.

Thanks again for this fine release,
Jim Very Happy
EDIT: Mount command output when installed on an ext3 partition:
Code:
bash-3.00# mount
rootfs on / type rootfs (rw,relatime)
/dev/sda2 on /initrd/mnt/dev_save type ext3 (rw,noatime,errors=continue,data=ordered)
/dev/loop1 on /initrd/pup_rw type ext3 (rw,noatime,errors=continue,data=ordered)
tmpfs on /initrd/mnt/tmpfs type tmpfs (rw,relatime,size=209312k)
/dev/loop0 on /initrd/pup_ro2 type squashfs (ro,noatime)
/dev/loop4 on /initrd/pup_ro4 type squashfs (ro,noatime)
unionfs on / type aufs (rw,relatime,si=777e3fd0)
tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs (rw,relatime,size=3053504k)
none on /proc type proc (rw,relatime)
none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,relatime,gid=2,mode=620)
none on /sys type sysfs (rw,relatime)
none on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw,relatime)
<root> ~
bash-3.00#

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Mar 2010, 18:39    Post subject:  

edoc,
Try Dingo's Openoffice 3.2 sfs which runs fine using Lighthouse.
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abushcrafter


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Location: England

PostPosted: Sun 07 Mar 2010, 18:49    Post subject:  

Oh no I forgot there's updates for wine and transmission!

Wine 1.1.40:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=37783&start=330

Transmission 1.91 pets:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=38969

However I'm still going to use up some bandwidth Very Happy.
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edoc


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PostPosted: Sun 07 Mar 2010, 19:59    Post subject:  

Jim1911 wrote:
edoc,
Try Dingo's Openoffice 3.2 sfs which runs fine using Lighthouse.


OxygenOffice works fine, is based on OO, but has more features.

I was wondering why it is not the default office suite instead of Abiword.

Is it the size of the app or something about the open source contract or ??

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synthplayer

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Mar 2010, 20:18    Post subject:  

I'm new to Linux but I have been running Lighthouse Pup 4.42F with Mariner with a live cd, keeping XP home on the c drive. I burnt the new G version onto disc, defrag'd xp and did a file system check, everything was ok. Then I saved the latest Mariner to C:, restarted, configured the setup options, saved the spupsave file, restarted, it got to check number 6 and came up with an error, something like uncontignous file 0.1 %, waiting 60 seconds, then the kernal would not sync, nothing happens. Please could somebody help, maybe a bad iso burn? Went back to 4.42 with my previous spupsave file and everything is ok.

PS Lighthouse Pup really rocks, kudos to Tazoc and friends =)
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PostPosted: Sun 07 Mar 2010, 21:30    Post subject:  

synthplayer wrote:
Then I saved the latest Mariner to C:, restarted, configured the setup options, saved the spupsave file, restarted, it got to check number 6 and came up with an error, something like uncontignous file 0.1 %, waiting 60 seconds, then the kernal would not sync, nothing happens.
You may be correct about a bad iso, however, you were running from a live CD, now you've saved Mariner to C: Why? An installation requires more than just the Mariner sfs and a spupsave file copied to c:. What are you trying to accomplish? How are you planning on booting Lighthouse?

Answer the above questions and then someone should be able to help.
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PostPosted: Sun 07 Mar 2010, 21:50    Post subject:  

edoc wrote:
Is it the size of the app or something about the open source contract or ??
Probably.
I'm sure that there is also an OxygenOffice sfs that works fine with Lighthouse.
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PostPosted: Sun 07 Mar 2010, 22:40    Post subject:  

edoc wrote:
I am curious as to why Abiword rather than OxygenOffice?

I have never been able to get reliable 2-way support for the various MS iterations of word docs and some others from prior versions of Abiword but OxygenOffice seems to handle everything with excellence.

Not criticizing, just wondering ...
I like OxygenOffice, though it is too large to include in the base ISO. Abiword is ~6M compressed. OpenOffice is ~150M w/o Java, ~180M w/Java and OxygenOfficePro301 is about 345M. Do you know if anyone has made a newer OxygenOffice SFS? If so I'll link to it or update it for LHP and upload it.

Jim1911,
Thank you for the test results and info about e-Sword. winetricks in LHP can be used to install the mfc42.dll if it's not handy. I think I know why your pupsave is ext4 but I need to do some testing to verify. If so I'll make sure that it either names it .4fs or formats it with ext3 in the next release.

abushcrafter, Thanks for the new links. Wine is updated so frequently it's hard to keep up!

synthplayer,
Thanks for the feedback and support. Is that an NTFS partition that you chose for the pupsave? Do you remember what size, e.g., 512M you chose for the pupsave? I will try to reproduce the error with the Mariner ISO. Occasionally I've found that a file system check during LHP boot up will generate similar results but on reboot everything is fine.
-TazOC

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Mar 2010, 22:56    Post subject:  

I have OxygenOffice301 but the name does not include the letters "pro", I wonder if it is the same?

I have not seen a newer release. I will look around and let you know if I find one.

OK re. size - that would explain it!

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