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tomberek · Joined: 05 Mar 2010 Posts: 11

Any interest in an arch puppy? Woof seems to have some support for it or at least it was thought of.

puppyluvr · Posted: Fri 05 Mar 2010, 18:22 Post subject:

Hello,
Yes, there is a Woof to build Arch pup, and I have an ISO built from it, but it had problems and I just kinda let it go...I`ll take a look at it and see if it is fixable...I even made a background for it... Cool

I`ll get back....

tomberek · Joined: 05 Mar 2010 Posts: 11

Excellent! I've been asking around for a while and haven't heard anything, though many have said that they would be interested. I tried to get Woof and build an aPup, but I'm not knowledgeable enough to get all the library dependencies correct. I can do some work on this, but other than testing and some light tweaking, I need help for the actual work.

puppyluvr · Posted: Sat 06 Mar 2010, 00:36 Post subject:

Hello,
Well, I dug out the iso and booted it up..I remember what was broken now...xorg..Here is a screenshot in xvesa... I also cant seem to D/L from the Arch repos..This one might need remaking from Woof, IDK..I`ll see what else is broken and report back...
Edit: OK, the Puppy repos dont work either, so the package manager is broken..grrr..I`ll try some local Puppy and Arch stuff tomorrow and get back...

tomberek · Joined: 05 Mar 2010 Posts: 11

Can you post what you have?

puppyluvr · Posted: Mon 08 Mar 2010, 21:44 Post subject:

Hello,
Um, yea, but gimme a day to remember where I put my ISO`s, and my upload passwords..LOL
Been gone since august and misplaced a few things...

Xorg should be easy enough to fix, and the Package manager could be a simple url change IDK
I`m pretty sure that someone has posted a working apup iso before, but I havent done a thorough search..
I`ll see what I can dig up and post a link... Cool

Lobster · Posted: Mon 08 Mar 2010, 22:55 Post subject:

Jay
Woof has improved considerably since August - as you can imagine

What would you say are the advantages of Apup?
As I understand it Arch compiles for specific hardware
- would this be useful or possible?

puppyluvr · Posted: Mon 08 Mar 2010, 23:31 Post subject:

Hello,
Well heck Lobster, IDK...
I just made it because, like a mountain "it was there" when I was playing with Woof..
I cooked up one of each to see what I would get...
DPup Didnt..
SPup Sorta did..
APup Almost did..
UPup Use it to this day!! Very Happy

(Shh, I hate Ubuntu..But I love their repos...)

I had forgotten about the APup I made till I read the OP..LOL...Looked in my grub, and `viola, there it was..
I swear I remember someone devoting to an APup ISO when Woof came out, but IDK who now...I may try to Woof it again, just for SAG...I may also try to fix this one, but if the Package Manager aint fixable to the Arch repos, then its a mute point..
Mostly, PAW is taking up my time, and my brain cells...

That and that damn screensaver Im working on LOL...
Back to the B.A.S.G...."If then do while grep end done fi.."

tomberek · Joined: 05 Mar 2010 Posts: 11

bump... any more interest?

puppyluvr · Posted: Mon 22 Mar 2010, 12:48 Post subject:

Hello,
Yea, Im still here...I looked at the APup iso I had made before, and its too broken to fix...So I d`l the latest Woof and am trying again...Down to 6 errors this morning... Very Happy

Will work on it somemore tonight...

steve_s · Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 1545 Location: Austin, TX, USA

I have interest in apup if it can do something similar to the gentoo package manager per my post on this thread.

I understand that Arch uses pacman or something like. As long as it has a similar feel and can run as a livecd (in other words, I hear Gentoo's portage is too big; even though I've used it, I couldn't tell you have much space it takes up), I'd give it a go if the work hasn't been done yet.... Cool

playdayz · Joined: 25 Apr 2008 Posts: 3744

I learned a lot from Arch and would like to see an Apup. Arch has excellent documentation imo. I also like, in theory, the rolling release model.

Rupp · Joined: 29 Aug 2009 Posts: 87

puppyluvr · Posted: Sun 28 Mar 2010, 13:14 Post subject:

Hey,
I havnt disappeared, just have very limited time ATM...
Still trying to solve package errors, no point in "builddistro" till I get them straightened out..
Also trying to get pacman to work on Puppy...Even if I get it to run, and D/L the packages, it will need a script to alter the install directory structures...
I think before I go much further, I will D/L Arch, and check it out more thoroughly...I looked at it briefly once about a year ago, but not enough to look at its glib / gtk / busybox/ ect to compare / contrast to Puppy..
I`m sorta hoping some other more knowledgeable developers will jump in here and help fill in the blanks...With enough interest, eventually a usable iso will appear..
I would post the APup.iso I built before, broken tho it is, but Eric is having problems with .ca ATM, and as my stuff has been a royal pain in his butt before, I dont want to add insult to injury..
I still seem to clearly remember that when BK released the Woof system, someone latched onto each of the building systems, including Arch, but I cant remember who ...Myself, I went after Tinycore..Woofing / Unleashing Tinycore was pretty easy...But the ISO ends up huge, as TC packages are all independant..ie all libs necessary to the package are in the package, no "shared" directories to speak of..(like portable apps)...However, if you want to build a "self contained" .pet and size isnt an issue, grab a .tce/.tcz..They work great, and are really up to date..
LOL..
The actual reason I built an APup in the first place was to send it, tongue-in-cheek, to A.J.
Those who know the "back story" on that might see the humor in it... Very Happy

Enough rambling on...no partner, 2 jobs, 3 kids, and no car ATM, make time very precious....
Be back.........

tomberek · Joined: 05 Mar 2010 Posts: 11

puppyluvr: It seems that you have the most expertise in this. I think the rest of us are mostly users, twiddlers, dabblers; ie, we can help, but can't do it all. Can you delegate sub-tasks to make things easier?

But to begin with, perhaps we need a discussion about what the advantages/disadvantages of aPup would be.

Should we set this up as a project? I'm not sure what the standard operating procedure is in the Puppy community.