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Bluefish-2.0.0

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Homepage http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/
About Bluefish

Bluefish is a powerful editor targeted towards programmers and webdesigners, with many options to write websites, scripts and programming code. Bluefish supports many programming and markup languages, and it focuses on editing dynamic and interactive websites. See features for an extensive overview, take a look at the screenshots, or download it right away. Bluefish is an open source development project, released under the GNU GPL licence.

News - February 15 - Bluefish 2.0.0 released!

After 16 development releases and 3 release candidates we finally have Bluefish 2.0.0 ready. The 2.0.0 release is considered the most stable and most feature rich Bluefish release. The screenshots page has an introduction movie to Bluefish 2.0.
Check out my [url=https://github.com/technosaurus]github repositories[/url]. I may eventually get around to updating my [url=http://bashismal.blogspot.com]blogspot[/url].

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Re: Bluefish-2.0.0

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technosaurus wrote: This could be REALLY cutdown, and may just be ttuuxxx's dream tabbed editor if cutdown properly
... just don't feel like hacking at it right now.
Perhaps ttuuxx should look at TextAdept: 2,000 lines of C core, and a boatload of Lua scripting...
http://caladbolg.net/luadoc/textadept2/ ... ction.html
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libenchant.so.1, where to get it Edit

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Found it. Stlll get this in terminal:

sh-3.00# bluefish
bluefish: error while loading shared libraries: libenchant.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
sh-3.00#

I use Bluefish 1.07 every day. This must be a very different animal.
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Re: Bluefish-2.0.0

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DMcCunney wrote:
technosaurus wrote: This could be REALLY cutdown, and may just be ttuuxxx's dream tabbed editor if cutdown properly
... just don't feel like hacking at it right now.
Perhaps ttuuxx should look at TextAdept: 2,000 lines of C core, and a boatload of Lua scripting...
http://caladbolg.net/luadoc/textadept2/ ... ction.html
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looks very promising, will try to compile that one later.

thanks
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Re: libenchant.so.1, where to get it Edit

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Henry wrote:Found it. Stlll get this in terminal:

sh-3.00# bluefish
bluefish: error while loading shared libraries: libenchant.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
sh-3.00#

I use Bluefish 1.07 every day. This must be a very different animal.
libenchant could be installed via package-manager. to find out which other dependencies might be missing open a termin and type

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ldd /PATH/TO/bluefish | grep not
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Re: libenchant.so.1, where to get it Edit

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libenchant could be installed via package-manager. to find out which other dependencies might be missing open a termin and type

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ldd /PATH/TO/bluefish | grep not
aragon[/quote]

sh-3.00# ldd /initrd/pup_rw/usr/bin/bluefish | grep not
libenchant.so.1 => not found
sh-3.00#

Apparently I did not succeed in installing libenchant.so.1. I got it from ttuuxxx' libraries. It's not in my package manager.

Ah well, I really don't need it just now.

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#7 Post by aragon »

Henry

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... ackages-4/

the package is called enchant.

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aragon wrote:Henry

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... ackages-4/

the package is called enchant.

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#9 Post by technosaurus »

Yeah - I really need to do a better job with including dependencies when I enter the "petspecs" so that the automatically get downloaded... but didn't remember if the package was called enchant or libenchant.... hmm.... if only there were a database that linked libs to the package names... even better ... if it would guess the dependencies for you (like the check dependencies part of petget)
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Re: Bluefish-2.0.0

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aragon wrote:
DMcCunney wrote:
technosaurus wrote: This could be REALLY cutdown, and may just be ttuuxxx's dream tabbed editor if cutdown properly
... just don't feel like hacking at it right now.
Perhaps ttuuxx should look at TextAdept: 2,000 lines of C core, and a boatload of Lua scripting...
http://caladbolg.net/luadoc/textadept2/ ... ction.html
looks very promising, will try to compile that one later.
I have a Linux binary of it, but it fails to run:

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./textadept: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.7' not found (required by ./textadept)
May need a newer version of libc to build it.
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#11 Post by aragon »

Dennis,

look here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=52632 for a textadept pet.

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#12 Post by ttuuxxx »

ya I compiled this version about 1.5 months ago, with all the deps so that the ftp uploads worked etc on 2.14x, but it was massive in the end, so i deleted it, lol
I like kompozer but its never stable enough, and really it should be a addon for Firefox since its like 90% Firefox based. but I haven't used Dreamweaver CS3 in like 1.5 yrs, so Linux is filling the gap, but still its not stable and no where near Dreamweaver CS class, Bluefish is stable, but usually I'm lazy when it comes to web building, when I took web development diploma in tafe, we learned first via a text editor, once we made a few pages with java script, then we were pushed to use dreamweaver/photoshop cs3.
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http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
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#13 Post by technosaurus »

I have always been a notepad/geany cut-'n-paster... I may start my initial layout in Seamonkey for tables, images etc... but I always end up scrapping half of the garbage and then pasting from a collection of code snippets for css and try to avoid javascript if at all possible (note that there is no javascript on the puppy web desktop) For large amounts of data such as lists I use sed or the replace function in geany ... like replacing "\n" for a list of images with the /><img ....
Another trick is to use gnumeric to cut and paste from so that you get a tab separated list of multiple columns so that you can replace \t with something (like if you wanted alt text etc...) Adding each one manually in Dreamweaver would take forever. Geany does an OK job with this but with sed you can replace the first tab with something different than the second, third....
Check out my [url=https://github.com/technosaurus]github repositories[/url]. I may eventually get around to updating my [url=http://bashismal.blogspot.com]blogspot[/url].

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#14 Post by DMcCunney »

ttuuxxx wrote: I like kompozer but its never stable enough, and really it should be a addon for Firefox since its like 90% Firefox based.
Not really. Kompozer is a fork of Nvu, and Nvu is based on the HTML editor in SeaMonkey. I know people who use SeaMonkey's HTML editor component instead of Kompozer because they think it's more stable and provides better results.

There are an assortment of add-ons you can install in Firefox to aid web development, like Chris Pederick's Web Developer toolbat, Joe Hewillt's Firebug debugger and Rob Ginda's JavaScript Debugger, but they won't quite make it a Kompozer substitute.
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DMcCunney wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote: I like kompozer but its never stable enough, and really it should be a addon for Firefox since its like 90% Firefox based.
Not really. Kompozer is a fork of Nvu, and Nvu is based on the HTML editor in SeaMonkey. I know people who use SeaMonkey's HTML editor component instead of Kompozer because they think it's more stable and provides better results.

There are an assortment of add-ons you can install in Firefox to aid web development, like Chris Pederick's Web Developer toolbat, Joe Hewillt's Firebug debugger and Rob Ginda's JavaScript Debugger, but they won't quite make it a Kompozer substitute.
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Hi Dennis
Yes everybody knows that Kompozer is a fork of NVU, since NVU is a dead project now.
Kompozer is actually build on top of Mozilla, which is the backend of Firefox/Seamonkey.
http://kompozer.sourceforge.net/dev/

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 Building KompoZer from source

If you want to contribute patches or builds for KompoZer, the first thing to do is to build it, obviously.

You will find detailed instructions at the Mozilla Developer Center. Here’s a quick how-to:

   1. check the build requirements for your platform: Windows™, MacOS X™ or Linux
   2. grab the sources, either from the latest source tarball (see the project page) or from the SVN trunk:

      svn checkout https://kompozer.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/kompozer/trunk

   3. copy the “mozconfig
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#16 Post by DMcCunney »

ttuuxxx wrote:
DMcCunney wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote: I like kompozer but its never stable enough, and really it should be a addon for Firefox since its like 90% Firefox based.
Not really. Kompozer is a fork of Nvu, and Nvu is based on the HTML editor in SeaMonkey.
Yes everybody knows that Kompozer is a fork of NVU, since NVU is a dead project now.
Then why call it "based on Firefox"? It isn't. Firefox and Kompozer share a common base, which is a different matter.
Kompozer is actually build on top of Mozilla, which is the backend of Firefox/Seamonkey.
Er, Mozilla is the name of the project that produced all of it (and the name of the foundation that currently owns it) . The foundation is the Gecko rendering engine, which underlies SeaMonkey, Firefox, Thunderbird, Sunbird, and Kompozer, as well as a few non-Mozilla products like the Flock browser, Songbird media player, and Komodo programmer's IDE from ActiveState.

I've been following the Mozilla efforts since it was still a development project of Netscape, and the first one I used was Netscape 6 (which should never have gotten out the door. The first usable code appeared in Netscape 7.)
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#17 Post by ttuuxxx »

Hi Dennis I've also been using mozilla based version since early Netscape , hmmm the first netscape I used was on windows 3.1, just before win95 came out, well since we are comparing, my first I programmed on was a C-64 and I was like 8yrs old when I made my first game, lol a pac-man game with sprite graphics, since at that time C-64 didn't have any games, I owned a pre-release demo not for sale version, my father paid off the computer store owner to sell one 4 months before they were actually release, my uncle worked at Commodore as a software designer and he sent me the programming books. Funny how things were back then. Also gecko is the layout engine for mozilla.

and I Quote
"Source code for Mozilla software projects such as Firefox, Thunderbird, and XULRunner are managed collectively in a single Mercurial repository. This large codebase is referred to as the Mozilla codebase, the Mozilla source code, or just Mozilla. Before Gecko 1.9 had branched, CVS was used."
maybe do a readup :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozzila
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#18 Post by DMcCunney »

ttuuxxx wrote:I've also been using mozilla based version since early Netscape , hmmm the first netscape I used was on windows 3.1, just before win95 came out,
I'm going to be picky here, because I'm fussy about terminology. As a programmer, you are well aware that if you call something by the wrong name, the results won't be what you want.

I used Netscape stuff back then, too: Netscape Navigator 3, and later Netscape Communicator 4. (For that matter, I used the ancient NSCA Mosaic browser, and odd entrants like Sun's HotJava browser effort, written entirely in Java.) But it wasn't Mozilla back then. It was Netscape. You'll recall that Mozilla was Netscape's code name for the internal project intended to be the followup for Netscape Communicator.

Netscape 6 was the first code actually released by the Mozilla project. (And the source for what would have been Netscape 5, before they decided to toss out the baby with the bathwater and do a total rewrite was still available in their repositories the last I knew.)
well since we are comparing, my first I programmed on was a C-64 and I was like 8yrs old when I made my first game, lol a pac-man game with sprite graphics, since at that time C-64 didn't have any games, I owned a pre-release demo not for sale version, my father paid off the computer store owner to sell one 4 months before they were actually release, my uncle worked at Commodore as a software designer and he sent me the programming books.
The first computer I used professionally was an IBM mainframe at a bank in the 70s, running OS/VS1 (later upgraded to OS/MVS.) Gotta live a 370 class machine supporting about 500 remote users via CICS, on a machine with two megabytes of RAM supported by 16 megabytes of virtual storage... I also logged time on DEC PDP-11s running RSTS-E and RSX-11m+ and VAXes running VMS, and IBM PCs when the original IBM PC with a 4.77mhx 8088 CPU and a green mono monitor and two 360K floppy drives running MS-DOS 2.1 was beginning to displace the venerable Apple II in the business world, and Lotus 1,2,3 was single handedly forcing everyone to upgrade to a whole 640KB of RAM in the PC to hold the enormous Lotus worksheets they were creating.

The first Unix machine I used was a Cyb Systems box based on a Motorola 680X0 CPU in the early 80s. The first computer I had at home (and still own) was an AT&T 3B1, a single user workstation with a bit-mapped monochrome console and mouse, based on a 10mhz Motorola 68010 CPU, which would boot and run a port of AT&T Unix System V Release 2, a full multi-user, multitasking OS, in one megabyte of memory and perform useful work. Give it more and it flew. (A client back then was supporting 5 users on dumb terminals and a printer, running a specialized distribution management package on a 3B1 with 2MB of RAM. Performance was acceptable, thank you.)

I didn't get a PC clone till well after the 3B1, but logged time on MS-DOS 2.11, 3.3, and 5.0, then Windows for Workgroups 3,11, Win95, Win98SE, Win2K Pro, and WinXP Pro (which I triple boot with Ubuntu 9.10 on the desktop.) At various offices, ad WinNT 4, OS/2 Warp, Novell Netware 4, Sun OS, SCO Open Server 5, and various versions of Solaris.

I logged time on C64's, too, using GEOS and other thjngs.
Funny how things were back then. Also gecko is the layout engine for mozilla.
I said that above.
and I Quote
"Source code for Mozilla software projects such as Firefox, Thunderbird, and XULRunner are managed collectively in a single Mercurial repository. This large codebase is referred to as the Mozilla codebase, the Mozilla source code, or just Mozilla. Before Gecko 1.9 had branched, CVS was used."
maybe do a readup :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozzila
ttuuxxx
Okay, I was referring to the underlying Gecko engine as the base on which Firefox and Kompozer rested. You are referring to Mozilla as the entire code base. Fair enough, and I'll agree.
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Thank you for this Bluefish 2.0.0

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How to use Opera 10.60 with Bluefish SOLVED

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First: I use Bluefish 2 every day since it appeared, and used 1.07 for several years before that.

Second: I've used Opera as long as it's been around. But now that I've installed Opera 10.60, latest and greatest in the recommended way, outside the pup-save, I've had to make various little changes to get it connected here and there. One I had to solve is how to add this Opera as the default external browser command.

(Actually I couldn't get Bluefish to retain ANY new external browser commands. I was inputting and then hitting OK, as the manual says. Turns out one has to hit ENTER!)

EDIT: Turns out there was nothing wrong with Bluefish, which I like very much, just the half baked way the Opera 10.60 .pet integrates into Puppy.

Bluefish is again working perfectly for me. And so is the new Opera (mostly).

Sorry for the confusion.

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