démarrage sur CD : boucle

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démarrage sur CD : boucle

#1 Post by sylsunfr »

Bonjour, quelque soit l'option choisie, il semble démarrer, cad que je vois
vmlinuz...
initrd.gz....

Puis il reboote

Donc je ne peux faire aucun démarrage ni en liveCD, ni en installation (souhaitée).

Pour info je suis sur un CYRIX MII-300
et ma version est toutpou Linux 4.12


Merci de votre aide...

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Re: démarrage sur CD : boucle

#2 Post by RetroTechGuy »

sylsunfr wrote:Bonjour, quelque soit l'option choisie, il semble démarrer, cad que je vois
vmlinuz...
initrd.gz....

Puis il reboote

Donc je ne peux faire aucun démarrage ni en liveCD, ni en installation (souhaitée).

Pour info je suis sur un CYRIX MII-300
et ma version est toutpou Linux 4.12


Merci de votre aide...
http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_txt

Well, I don't read French, but using the Babelfish translator, it sounds as if you may have a damaged CD. (and I am betting that your English is better than my French...)

Did you try to do a simple Puppy liveboot, or did you try to copy the files to the HDD? The babelfish translation was not clear enough.

You should be able to simply boot the CD, and hit <return> or just wait a few seconds, and boot without options. Only if the default settings fails, would I change boot options.

For a Puppy test-drive, I would recommend booting live, and saving your pupsave system on a flash drive. Once you convince yourself that this is working, you might move to a frugal or full install...

It is also possible that your trouble is the result of the Cyrix processor. As I recall, (at least historically) Cyrix is not always supported by the Linux kernels, without a recompile.

On the other hand, these threads imply that Puppy does support the Cyrix:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... f4aef5105b
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... e5f744ac9b

We may need more details about the error(s).

sylsunfr
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Re: démarrage sur CD : boucle

#3 Post by sylsunfr »

Hello Guy, thanks for your help.

At first I'm going to try to answer to your questions:
- yes I try a bootlive CD
- I tried an option with the boot, because I thought to need acpi=off (I tried before an ubuntu installation and acpi=force was required)
- but I try also without any option
- after your message I have searched information about Cyrix; it seems ok " Cyrix 166 Mhz avec 48 mo de ram sans problème" on http://toutoulinux.free.fr/tuto.php

- since this differnts unsuccessful start on the CD, this old system do not work properly: even windows does not start anymore, it is always and always rebooting

:cry: :cry: :cry:

RetroTechGuy wrote:
sylsunfr wrote:Bonjour, quelque soit l'option choisie, il semble démarrer, cad que je vois
vmlinuz...
initrd.gz....

Puis il reboote

Donc je ne peux faire aucun démarrage ni en liveCD, ni en installation (souhaitée).

Pour info je suis sur un CYRIX MII-300
et ma version est toutpou Linux 4.12


Merci de votre aide...
http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_txt

Well, I don't read French, but using the Babelfish translator, it sounds as if you may have a damaged CD. (and I am betting that your English is better than my French...)

Did you try to do a simple Puppy liveboot, or did you try to copy the files to the HDD? The babelfish translation was not clear enough.

You should be able to simply boot the CD, and hit <return> or just wait a few seconds, and boot without options. Only if the default settings fails, would I change boot options.

For a Puppy test-drive, I would recommend booting live, and saving your pupsave system on a flash drive. Once you convince yourself that this is working, you might move to a frugal or full install...

It is also possible that your trouble is the result of the Cyrix processor. As I recall, (at least historically) Cyrix is not always supported by the Linux kernels, without a recompile.

On the other hand, these threads imply that Puppy does support the Cyrix:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... f4aef5105b
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... e5f744ac9b

We may need more details about the error(s).

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#4 Post by vezuve »

Hello,
Bon d'accord le toutou fait bien souvent des miracles, mais la avec seulement 48Mb de RAM cela semble être une des cause du problème.
Par curiosité, a tu essayé ce cd sur un autre PC :?:

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Re: démarrage sur CD : boucle

#5 Post by RetroTechGuy »

sylsunfr wrote:Hello Guy, thanks for your help.

At first I'm going to try to answer to your questions:
- yes I try a bootlive CD
- I tried an option with the boot, because I thought to need acpi=off (I tried before an ubuntu installation and acpi=force was required)
- but I try also without any option
- after your message I have searched information about Cyrix; it seems ok " Cyrix 166 Mhz avec 48 mo de ram sans problème" on http://toutoulinux.free.fr/tuto.php

- since this differnts unsuccessful start on the CD, this old system do not work properly: even windows does not start anymore, it is always and always rebooting

:cry: :cry: :cry:
Did the Windows stop working after trying to boot Puppy? Or did it fail, causing you to try Puppy?

Do you have a pupsave on the HDD? If so, you may want to try booting to ram only (bypass the pupsave):
puppy pfix=ram

A 300 MHz should be enough machine. I ran Puppy 4.12 on a 333MHz Intel laptop, with 128 MB RAM.

Does your machine have a floppy disk? Can you boot to DOS?

You may also want to try running a memtest (this should also tell you if the CD is booting properly, as this is a very small image):

http://www.memtest.org/

Have you read through this? (Babelfish will translate the whole page to French, if that helps):

http://puppylinux.org/main/index.php?fi ... tarted.htm

One last thought... Did you use the 4.12 Retro version? Your hardware is quite old, and may not be well supported by the "regular" 4.12. The Retro version was created for better old hardware support.

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... uppylinux/

You may want this:
puppy-4.1.2retro-k2.6.21.7-seamonkey.iso

Instead of this:
puppy-4.1.2-k2.6.25.16-seamonkey.iso

If you are running the newer 4.12, try the 4.1.2retro first (before spending a lot of time checking for hardware problems)

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