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oui · Posted: Sat 23 Jan 2010, 18:06 Post subject:

Hi

I am sorry, but for my use is this version a TOTAL FLOP and the worst of all Rolling Eyes

... the screen become completely dark at starting point of X Shocked

and it is absolutely not possible to turn on the backlight of the laptop Embarassed

. it is extremly difficult to find the black cursor on the dark screen to restart the PC and the dark background is a difficulty more in the context...

terrible.

salut

Jim1911 · Joined: 19 May 2008 Posts: 2354 Location: Texas, USA

oui,

Sorry about your bad experience, however, please post information about your hardware. it will be good to know which hardware is having trouble.

Thanks,
Jim

Béèm · Posted: Sat 23 Jan 2010, 19:57 Post subject:

I tried the 455 and now the 456, but I have to select xvesa as xorg doesn't work.

I did read the section about ATI, as I have a radeon 7500 card, but I don't understand what I have to put in xorg.config.
Where should I put the correct radeon driver?

EDIT
I supposed that I had to edit the xorg.conf and replace the fbdev with radeon on the driver line.

I tried, but CTRL-K nor CTRL-X brings me out of E3.
I am at a loss.

playdayz · Joined: 25 Apr 2008 Posts: 3705

Beem,

Béèm · Posted: Sun 24 Jan 2010, 09:00 Post subject:

Thanks for the tip: pfix=nox, never used it.
I removed the fbdev driver and did xorgwizard, selected as usual and issued xwin.
I came to a desktop, but I am not sure I am in xorg.
In xorg.conf fbdev isn't there anymore but I have vesa now.
So I suspect I am in xvesa, which is the way I started after xorg failed.

oui · Posted: Sun 24 Jan 2010, 14:32 Post subject:

hi jim

playdayz · Joined: 25 Apr 2008 Posts: 3705

Beem, I think you are in xorg using the vesa driver. When you ran xorgwizard you choose Xorg rather than xvesa, right? It is confusing I know, but there is an xvesa X server (called xvesa) and there is also a vesa driver in the Xorg X server. So I think you are good. If you wanted to experiment you might edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the vesa driver to radeon and then Menu -> Shutdown -> Restart xserver. Who knows what will happen. BTW, as it is what happens if you open a terminal and run "glxgears?" Do you see the gears--if so, that means glx/dri is working which is one of the goals of uPup. The Upup_456.iso which is posted in the first message in the thread now does not have the fbdev driver but that is the same as you have done on your own. Almost certainly i will be leaving fbdev out of subsequent versions of uPup. Thanks for staying with it.
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oui, As I said above to Beem, the version of uPup 4.56 that is now posted does not have the fbdev video driver because I think the fbdev driver may be the reason uPup is not working for you. If you cared to experiment again, I would recommend downloading the upup_456.iso and making a live-CD and seeing what happens when it first runs xorgwizard. I hope something good happens, but ....

Searching for your machine, oui, I found several that have ATI 1200 graphics (older) or ATI 3200 graphics (newer). I am hopeful that if you try the new version of upup_456 without the fbdev video driver it will work and xorgwizard will choose the proper driver or at least a workable one. Based on the graphics, your machine could use the ati, radeon, or radeonhd video drivers, or perhaps the vesa video driver. Your info is helpful in trying to get uPup to work out of the box on more machines, so thanks.
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aarf · Joined: 30 Aug 2007 Posts: 3620 Location: around the bend

aarf · Joined: 30 Aug 2007 Posts: 3620 Location: around the bend

unpacked 456 to a sdcard directory, pointed grub at it, booted and got
error 16; incompatible file system.
tried to delete some files in the directory and got "write-protected file system read only". under puppy i do not know how to remove these files.

Béèm

@playdayz,
Thank you for the info about the vesa driver in xorg. Wasn't aware of it.
glxgears runs ok.

I then changed vesa in radeon in xorg.conf

I wasn't able to do a restart X nothing happened.
I then did a CTRL-ALT-backspace to get the X command prompt, but I didn't get it. Instead I did get the desktop again and xorg.conf contained again vesa as driver.

Béèm

The network configuration is not retained between boots.
After a re-boot, I got connected automatically to an open router, which doesn't have the performance of mine.
The profile of my router was saved and I could reload it and then I clicked use it. I then had to request an IP again (autodhcp) and was connected to my router.

Following quite closely the forums, I see this issue is raised quite often.

aarf · Joined: 30 Aug 2007 Posts: 3620 Location: around the bend

playdayz · Joined: 25 Apr 2008 Posts: 3705

Beem, What happens if you go through the Network Wizard and then specifically Save the configuration? I also noticed this and it seems that if on first boot (or subsequently?) I hit the Save button after everything is configured, then it will remember the proper settings on reboot. But if don't hit Save and then just say Yes at the dialog upon closing the Wizard then it is not remembered. So please click Save button and see what happens. It is working correctly for me now even though it was wonky as you say at first.

Also, if you get glxgears that means GLX/DRI is working, which is a goal of uPup because I think it results in better compatibility when it is setup correctly. Also, glxgears would not run in xvesa but will run in the Xorg server with the vesa driver.

Arrf, what are you talking about??? LOL. I am going to have to read very carefully!!!

aarf · Joined: 30 Aug 2007 Posts: 3620 Location: around the bend