[Howto] From Vista to dual booting Vista and Puppy

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#21 Post by T_Hobbit »

It's working? Very good.
Happy that I help someone to dual boot Vista/7.

Boxpup is a puplet of Puppy 4.3.1

About boot options:
acpi=off is only needed for old machines like mine. Prior to 2001 or so.
pci=noacpi is needed to boot Acer Aspire One 9inch screen.

Thanks for testing.
Merry Xmas!
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#22 Post by nooby »

Yes I have to add that to the USB pin for my Acer then becasue now it makes it 800x600 if I remember.

I fail to do wired in my Acer while puppy do wireless out of the box.

and I need the wireless badly but would be cool to have wired too.
But Iam in no hurry to get it. I wait for the next version.

I have tried to read up on Boxpup.

what does it have that the ordinary standard don't have?
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#23 Post by T_Hobbit »

Boxpup - I like it because of light, beauty and chosen programs.
Like/dislike is just that, I suppose... A question of having what each one likes...

Wired should work just fine on Aspire One. Ethernet is a normal Realtek, isn't it?
But I don't have one like yours to check it out.
On mine I just need to connect the wire and press DHCP button.
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#24 Post by nooby »

That is how it works on my Vista Desktop. It just works after clicking on that dhcp things. But on my Acer it says it see no network and I load and load different drivers and it never works. Now I can live with that because I still ahve Win 7 on it so I can go out downloading things using my fast fiber wire 100M connection.

but it would be cool to get it going.

Burncc in windows can take out the vmlinuz and the initrd files how do I do it without burncc and such programs in Vista?

I want to test Boxpup on my Vista too. Ok I make a USB stick first. Next best thing to having a frugal install.

I am downloading it now and will test it within some 30 minutes if the dl goes well.

100kb/s so fairly slow.
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#25 Post by nooby »

Typical of me to dl the wrong boxpup. The retro so it took longer than anticipated. But now I test it on the acer and it managed to do wireless but not wired.

I write this from another puppy that has so different name me forgotten what it is. Extreme Turbopup something

I have only tested wired on this box. I have a Belkin usb wireless card so I maybe should test that one now,

Maybe it has to be connected at start up to get recognized?
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#26 Post by T_Hobbit »

If anything doesn't work out of the box, you'll need to look for a driver on the forum...
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#27 Post by nooby »

Yes that is a good advice that works on most linux users but trust me. I am a complete idiot when it comes to follow instructions.

I have tried to get Linux going since summer 2008 or even earlier and usually if fails. If it doesn't work out of the box then most likely I will never get it going regardless of how much time I spend on it. Usually I end up with less working things.

As of now. The Vista machine no longer dual boot and I have no clue on why.

It is a mystery. Could it be that Windows Vista somehow took it away?

HP Compaq started to run some kind of integrity software and I didn't know because I was in the Out house and it was some schedule I had no knowledge of. These new machines do a lot of things on their own the first years or so.

Compaq beahave as if they own the gear.
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#28 Post by nooby »

Hope that helps.
Yes thanks I trust it helps all those who are intelligent enough to follow the logic of the text. I drown in all the details and knowledge one have to know to accomplish it.

But I have book marked all of it and will look at it now and then.
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#29 Post by darkcity »

Thanks T_Hobbit, using Unetbootin work for me to dual boot a friend's computer with Vista. I like this method as it doesn't require a separate partition.

I have a couple of questions though,

1) when I select the Unetbootin option at start up - there is a delay before it goes into the Puppy boot sequence and finds the Puppy files. During this delay time I hear the hard-drive/ dvd-drive spin and stop. It does this about three times, making the delay about 12 seconds. Is there anyway to avoid this?

2) This relates to EasyBCD. I tried using app this but I can't find a way to hook its menu options to Puppy copied to the same partition as Vista. Has anyone succeeded at this?

:twisted:

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#30 Post by nooby »

darkcity wrote:...
2) This relates to EasyBCD. I tried using app this but

I can't find a way to hook its menu options to Puppy copied to the same partition as Vista. Has anyone succeeded at this?
:twisted:
as you know I know almost nothing but the developer of EasyBCD
he or his freinds on his forum did help me get it going on another
computer that I have here. It has Ms windows Vista on it.

Not I feel unsure of what you mean by these words.

"to hook its menu options to Puppy" AFAIK I did the opposite.
Is it my poor English that misunderstand you?

I can start that computer up and copy the menulist and
hopefully you can see how it works. I don't understand it
I only mimicked what they told me on their forum.

They got rather annoyed by my many questions understandbly
due to me not getting what they told me but by accident I managed
to follow their suggestions and it worked and since then I have
not dared to change anything on that computer. :)

IO try to start it up and log in and copy something of it okay?
Will take some 30 minutes or so. I am a slow guy okay.
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#31 Post by rcrsn51 »

darkcity wrote:2) This relates to EasyBCD. I tried using app this but I can't find a way to hook its menu options to Puppy copied to the same partition as Vista. Has anyone succeeded at this?
I've done it once. IIRC, there was an "Advanced" screen somewhere that let me manually add an entry for Puppy.

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#32 Post by nooby »

wow sorry took a long time to find it,
I try to copy not used to this computer
name of file is menu.lst
placed in /mnt/home/NST/ which is made by installing the
NeoGrup Easy BCD program???=??? Don't remember I try to find forum if it exxists here http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD
# NeoSmart NeoGrub Bootloader Configuration File#
# This is the NeoGrub configuration file, and should be located at C:\NST\menu.lst
# Please see the EasyBCD Documentation for information on how to create/modify entries:
# http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD

default 0

timeout 10

color NORMAL


title lupu-528-004 processor.max_cstate=1 i915.modeset=1 nosmp rootnoverify (hd0,0)
kernel (hd0,0)/lupu-528-004/vmlinuz PMEDIA=idehd PDEV1=sda1 psubdir=lupu-528-004 pfix=fsck
initrd (hd0,0)/lupu-528-004/initrd.gz
I try to find the win vista also to show how Neosmart EasyBCD connect from that one. Where can I find that text?

on neosmart.net look for old thread by username newbody
and hopefully that describe how to get it going? unless
rcrsn51 knows how to
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#33 Post by darkcity »

Thanks for the help,

@rcrsn51
I must have missed the advanced option that allowed manual editing of the boot menu's entries.

@Nooby
I couldn't find the menu.1st file, but will double check.

I don't have access to the computer at the mo, but next time your ideas will come in handy. Also I won't try and watch Forest Gump at the same ; -)

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#34 Post by rcrsn51 »

Under "Add Entry", there should be an option for "Neo-GRUB". Use that to make a standard GRUB entry for your Puppy.

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#35 Post by nooby »

darkcity wrote:Thanks for the help,
...

@Nooby
I couldn't find the menu.1st file, but will double check.
---
I found it here.
name of file is menu.lst
placed in

/mnt/home/NST/

Maybe that Dir only exists if one install the Neosmart program Neogrub
rcrsn51 maybe did it anotehr way. I failed to find how NST
linked to win vista start up. rcrsn51 maybe know?

Can pfind maybe find these files?

I have to go to bed now so I read any answer delayed some 10 hours
from now my local time :I
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#36 Post by starhawk »

@darkcity: think of it as "menu dot list" and you'll see what the extension should be ;)

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