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Hansamben - 412 - Kids Linux distro based on Puppy Linux 412
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sidders

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PostPosted: Thu 19 Nov 2009, 16:50    Post subject:  Hansamben - 412 - Kids Linux distro based on Puppy Linux 412
Subject description: At long last something like
 

After months of twiddling and evolving
the original post

Live CD or Kiosk version posted here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=369993#369993

I thought it was time that release was put into the subject somewhere.
All being well, i'll take the Pre bit away and beg for a mirror.
The pup_412.sfs is a hsb_412.sfs and the pup_save is hsb_save.

Completely rebuilt using 412 barebones which support 24 sfs's
Gcompris 8.4.13- with english, spanish and french (language learning)
Tuxmath
Tuxtype
Tuxpaint and stamps
Bugsquish
Help Hannahs Horse
Concentration.
Osmo
Oneko
Firepup with adobe flash 9
AbiWord 2.6.3 (updated) with additional Fun Fonts
Coins (Sterling) Other versions of Coins - US, Euro and Oz are available here
Euro
US
Australian
Drop the file into My applications and drag it to the desktop.

CTRL + ALT + H - hide the menu except for FUN and Personal
CTRL + ALT + R - Reveal al menus
CTRL + ALT + D - Disable right click (doesnt work on touchpad) it maps all buttons in Xorg.conf to 1 1 1.
CTRL + ALT + E - Enable right mouse button

I have bundled it together with 3 SFS's (so far). Which means the ISO has Hansamben alog with the 3 sfs's which need to be loaded\installed.
KDE -
Ktuberling
Klettres
Kgeography
Blinken

Etoys- Squeakland

CUPS- with Gutenprint etc

An entry in the Setup menu will check Pupstate and reveal either bootmanager or sfsinstaller If its a full install it will copy the SFS from CD to /. A script will be put into startup that will place icons on the desktop (RoxDTIcon) for full install or on startup for Frugal. The shutdown will wipe them. The Full install GUI is available also

DOS box games have been taken out but will be made into an SFS.

Help files have been updated and written

The Oneclick installer has been incorporated in root in a folder called Recycle-This-PC, this is a password protected script.
Password: Wipehdd
It will wipe the drive set up a swap file and carry out either a frugal or start the PUI for a full install. You do not need to cancel the PUI at grub, carry on all the way through. Neater.

Everything is here

http://www.mydrive.ch/

username : puppy@sidders
Password: puppylinux


Will post the SFs seperatly

Started a new thread to save people scrolling through umpteen posts. get those bugs

A mountain of credit goes to others. What a learning curve. Very Happy

Edit. I knocked together a quick Howto in Abiword for people to get started with Puppy ie booting from CD, changing Boot order etc. Its not authoritive, really to be printed and dished out with Puppy.


Seperate SFS's




Link to thread HanSamBen based on Puppy 431

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=425523#425523
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sidders

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PostPosted: Thu 19 Nov 2009, 17:39    Post subject:  

To do:
A fancy website
Pebbles
graphic grub
Spanish version (in the making)
Kiosk version (done but needs to be rebuilt)
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PostPosted: Thu 19 Nov 2009, 17:49    Post subject:  

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PostPosted: Sat 21 Nov 2009, 19:06    Post subject:
Subject description: Coins US
 

I apologise to those wo have downloaded the US coins. I have rectified it. I didnt resize the coin images. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Tue 24 Nov 2009, 20:41    Post subject:  

Just saw this project on Freshmeat:
http://omnitux.sourceforge.net/
Very similar to Gcompris

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Puppyt

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PostPosted: Tue 24 Nov 2009, 23:58    Post subject:  

sidders - you so ROCK!


I was going to leave it there, but some feedback on your other project...

My 3 nephews have an old computer I gave them, a stand-alone box (no internet access) with HSB3.0 plus ttuuxx's VLC and a suite of flash games I hawked from elsewhere on the puppy forum (I made a no-frills homepage of the directory with the flash games listed, so they're straight in from starting FireFox). This from me mum:
"[Sis] thanks you daily when the kids are home for your games computer, it keeps them so occupied and they seem to find something new daily.............Its been a life saver!!! the only problem is that they have time limits and usually there is a great uproar when times up!!!!!!"
(Masters 4, 6 and 8 ).

My kids (Miss 4, Master 6) have HSB3.0 recobbled from your (earlier) SFS files on a clean install of 4.1.2 for another, older computer that was having mysterious problems loading from the complete puplet. No internet or flash on theirs, but it is hooked up to the LCD TV so it runs 'difficult' DVD's that won't play cleanly on the DVD player, as well as FLV's of classic Sesame Street etc etc - but mostly they flit between FattyBear, TuxPaint, TuxMaths and gCompris as the whim takes them.

Imagine their culture shock when they might play on a friends computer, and it has an alien environment called "Windows"?
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What about including perhaps future SFS' with educational flash games (I know there is a how-to for browser-less Flash in the forum, but I haven't been able to work it out), or jar games? I realise flash and java are more bloat, but there seems to be a lot of open-source for those...

I especially thank you for the Retro version in this thread - intend installing it on a Win95-era, Pentium laptop, now upgraded to a glorious 48MB EDO RAM...

Cheers!
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PostPosted: Wed 25 Nov 2009, 00:30    Post subject:
Subject description: How-to's, BIOS boot issues
 

sidders -

I just raced through your AbiWord doc - many thanks for that, I'm sure it will be a big help to people coming to try your puplet. Just 2 suggestions - could you save the document in a non-proprietary format, like RTF rather than ABW? Spreads that net a bit. And, for those with computers with ancient BIOS with no option to boot from CD (e.g., Toshiba Satellite Pro 430CDS - boot to BIOS using the 'esc' button during POST), here's a link etc to rcrsn51's fabulous "Grubflop" floppy image for booting Puppy Live-CDs etc. http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=16950.

Thanks Again
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PostPosted: Wed 25 Nov 2009, 09:58    Post subject:  

The SFS's that are included with the 269mb ISO and the Dosgames that wasnt. Listed at the bottom of the first post.

More SFS will follow. I could re build the ISO's to include them up to 700mb (size of CD). The pup sfs will still be 208mb. Or would people prefer to include what they want?.
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PostPosted: Thu 26 Nov 2009, 16:43    Post subject:  

Thanks, sidders,

I've downloaded your dosbox games sfs file - that will help very much with mix'n'matching favoured games (SFS') on low-end hardware. Alas! The basic retro is just too good for a pentium lappy with 48MB RAM, 256Mb swap, full installation. Guess if it was a SD drive installed I'd see improvements, but currently it runs very much like the 70's band "Mi-Sex" and their stuttering hit song... (I might have to stick with a Win98 partition and dos games for this one - but at least I have Help Hannah's Horse down to a speed I can play!)
Your point on java and flash SFS' is well made - we can't expect you to spend considerably more time hunting and testing games in those formats. Best to just use HSB as a launchpad for further journeys into the open-source domain...

Cheers!
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PostPosted: Thu 26 Nov 2009, 16:57    Post subject:  

I was but knee-high to a grasshopper so my parents may have protected me from "Mi-Sex", thankfully.

Noted on the retro/low end PC. thanks Puppyt

I will carry on with the build of new SFS's. The Prophet made a point in the original thread about signing videos and Flash games have been brought up before.

Cracking on with the Spanish translation at the moment. Maybe when its finished could send to Shakira's charity (educating Columbian kids). mmmmm Shakira, Mi Sex Razz
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PostPosted: Mon 30 Nov 2009, 18:05    Post subject:  

Does this version include the Auto Installer?
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PostPosted: Tue 01 Dec 2009, 03:01    Post subject:  

Jamalexa. It does have the one click installer. In /root/Recycle-this-pc/ Oneclick.run (password is Wipehdd). It was made with makeself It lwill do a frugal without any intervention, but with the full install after the format it will drop you at the Puppy Installer for the install and grub install. There are some screenshots and step by step instructions in Help, written in bad english.

Basically it is the Alpha V3, rebuilt with Gcompris 8.4.13 and the dosgames taken off and put into an SFS.
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PostPosted: Sat 05 Dec 2009, 18:46    Post subject: One Click Installer
Subject description: Frugal vs Full Install
 

Installed Hansamben on 6 computers to be used by pre- schol and Pre-k students. 4 computers were installed by frugal install and 2 went to full install. what determines a full rather than a frugal install? Also I notice that no swap partition was created. These computers had Win XP installed.
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Dec 2009, 05:09    Post subject:  

The first thing the script does is determine how much ram (minus video) there is, there does a frugal (>256mb) or a Full install (<256mb). The script uses a swap file rather than a partition.

I can post the script if you like before i made it into a makeself file.

This is the code that checks for the amount of RAM
Code:
#!/bin/sh
RAMSIZE=`free | grep 'Mem:' | tr -s ' ' | cut -f 3 -d ' '` #total physical ram (less shared video).
if [ $RAMSIZE -gt 220000 ]
then
frugal-install
else
full-install
fi
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Dec 2009, 18:18    Post subject:  

Childsplay SFS uploaded. Link on first post. Its pets that LJFR created. As most of the dependencies are in HSB anyway (python, SDL etc), it has Pygame, Numpy and SQLAlchemy.
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