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PostPosted: Wed 21 Dec 2005, 07:52    Post subject:  compatible dvd drives  

I want to buy a dvd drive probably internal because they're cheaper. How can I find out which drives work with puppy and its dvd burning softwares?
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PostPosted: Wed 21 Dec 2005, 12:57    Post subject:  

I've tried 4 different brands - Memorex, Sony, NEC, and a no-name DVD burner. They all worked fine. Some of the first-generation DVD burners may have had proprietary controls, but I'm pretty sure that the manufacturers all standardized the interface years ago, meaning you can be confident that (Puppy) Linux can use any new CD or DVD burner. A DVD burner may have non-standard feature(s) that won't work in Linux, but the basic functions should still work nevertheless.

Now watch someone prove me wrong. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed 21 Dec 2005, 13:38    Post subject:  

They are pretty much of a muchness. The high speed ones seem to wear out faster (more wear and tear). Maybe someone can recommend what they are using and is available in your area - where are you?
In the UK I tend to buy from Maplins or PC World - there white goods (unbranded). Always buy generic.
Even cheaper to buy from fairs. I would not buy second hand. What do others say?

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kethd

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PostPosted: Tue 31 Jan 2006, 17:22    Post subject:  

What is the best cheap new internal DVD burner to buy for an underpowered dual-boot Win98SE/Puppy system?

I have pretty much settled on the NEC ND-3540A, based on the reviews at cdfreaks, which seem to be the most detailed and technical anywhere:
http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/214/9
# Supports DVD±R/+R DL/-R DL writing at 16x/8x/6x
# Supports CD-R/RW writing at 48x/32x

And this unit has an immense variety of official and unofficial firmware available, including RPC1 (region free):
http://liggydee.cdfreaks.com/page/3540/
"The NEC ND3540A DVD burner was released by NEC in June 2005..."

Current technology seems to be 16X DL (Dual-Layer), which can be bought as cheap as $50 -- seems like a pretty good deal. But only some still support 98SE, only some come with NERO, and most retail brands don't actually make the drives -- you can't be sure what will be in the box!

Shopping for these is a nightmare. Seems like the best deal in the US is from TigerDirect. But looking at the resellerratings feedback, it seems to be a big gamble to buy anything from them. The other choice seems to be SaveAtEagle (Eagle Computer Systems). Sounds like the chances of satisfaction are better there -- but still not that great.

Another approach is the Mad Dog MegaSTOR MD-16XDVD9-8X, which is supposed to be the same ND-3540A, maybe with tweaked firmware. But Mad Dog is not that easy to actually purchase, either.

(Not only will I be trying this burner on an underpowered PIII-450, but I am really much more interested in reliable burning of CDs rather than DVDs, and I care much more about getting good burns every time, don't care much about speed. This should be a real test of the buffer under-run features. I am most worried about whether the drive is able to spin at slow speeds, reading and writing -- the reviews don't mention this.)

Any comments or suggestions?
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PostPosted: Tue 31 Jan 2006, 18:49    Post subject:  

I've used the following with Puppy Linux with no problems at all. If it is just a DVD-ROM then probably any one will work. If it is a DVD-R/RW then probably anything made in the last 2 years will work fine.

LG Electronics
LiteOn
Asus
Panasonic

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PostPosted: Wed 01 Feb 2006, 01:15    Post subject:  

Mr Gates claims that DVD lasers only last three years. Only buy clones - they are made by the same companies that manufacture for the main badges. Would've recommended Sony until the recent rootkit debacle - will never trust this make again. LG is OK but their website is poor on firmware updates. Samsung always comes out on top if you want a badge.
Soon, everything will change again with Blu-ray and HD-DVD.
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kethd

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PostPosted: Wed 01 Feb 2006, 18:49    Post subject: NEC ND-3540A DVD burner  

This site has tediously even more thorough DVD burner reviews:
http://cdrinfo.com/Sections/Reviews/Specific.aspx?ArticleId=14916

Very interesting to learn that even though the retail boxes require PIII-800 or even P4 1.4GHz generally, the official NEC website requires only PII-266 for basic burning.

NEC ND-3540A:
http://www.de.nec.de/productdetail.php/id/1240
http://www.de.nec.de/faq.php/id/1343
http://www.de.nec.de/faq_detail.php/id/1343/frage/563/lang/
http://www.de.nec.de/faq_detail.php/id/1343/frage/590/lang/

ND-35xxA Series
System Requirements (pc)

Requirements for burning DvD+R(RW) / DvD-R(RW) / CD-R(RW) medias:
-min Pentium II 266MHz
-min 10GB harddiskspace
-min 64MB RAM

Requirements for DvD Video authoring:
-Windows 98se/ME/2000/XP
-min Pentium III 500MHz
-min 256MB RAM
-AGP Video card with 8MB RAM
-min 10GB harddiskspace

Requirements for Video captureing:
-Windows 98se/ME/2000/XP
-min Pentium III 800MHz
-min 256MB RAM
-AGP Video card with 8MB RAM
-capturing device (analog Video input or DV input)
-min 10GB harddiskspace
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PostPosted: Tue 07 Feb 2006, 18:07    Post subject: buffer under-run protection  

All modern CD-RW and DVD burners come with various kinds of buffer under-run protection (burn-proof etc).

Are these features all supported by Linux burning software? By the burning software in Puppy?

Or, is it important to get certain brands etc if you want these features to work?
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