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Eldy - a Linux desktop interface intended for the elderly
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tronkel


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PostPosted: Wed 11 Nov 2009, 08:52    Post subject:  Eldy - a Linux desktop interface intended for the elderly
Subject description: also for visually impaired
 

I've just come across this in the Internet.

It provides a complete interface layer that sits over any Linux (or Windows) with the aim of giving elderly/inexperienced/visually- impaired users an easy way of accessing a PC.

It does chat, email, internet browsing etc. I have seen a video of Valerie Singleton doing a demo on a specially dedicated PC running Linux Mint. The PC system that she used costs about 550GBP.

Made me wonder if this would run under Puppy, so I set up the necessary Java jre in 431 and it ran perfectly!

This would be a very nice inclusion in a suitable puplet.
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PostPosted: Wed 11 Nov 2009, 09:34    Post subject: Re: Eldy - a Linux desktop interface intended for the elderly
Subject description: also for visually impaired
 

tronkel wrote:
I've just come across this in the Internet.
This would be a very nice inclusion in a suitable puplet.


http://www.eldy.eu/download/

Thanks.....this looks great and would be a great help for seniors.

Thom
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PostPosted: Wed 11 Nov 2009, 11:19    Post subject:  

It appeared on the Beeb:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/
Question is: would you prefer Val Singleton? No contest.
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PostPosted: Wed 11 Nov 2009, 11:59    Post subject:  

Sage wrote:
It appeared on the Beeb


The Linux Ghods are unkind to me....Eldy installed with no problem in Windows....but in 4.31 it lies dormant. I installed java-1.6u14.pet ... and I can only assume I am too old and feeble to figure out the next step.

Yet another Senior Challenge...perhaps some kind soul can point me in the right direction.

Thom
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tronkel


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PostPosted: Wed 11 Nov 2009, 13:47    Post subject:  

@tlchost.

It definitely works in Puppy 431.

The problem I can see, is that Java has to be separately installed by downloading it from the Java Website. This might be a bit confusing for you. The Java pet package that you are using might not be configured correctly - hence you can't start Eldy

The best solution here is for somebody (me?) to build a live CD containing Puppy 431 plus Eldy plus Java all configured and ready to go.

Presumably you managed to set up Puppy normal Puppy 431 on your computer, so a ready-made live CD should be no problem for you.

I'll see what I can do to build this. Might take a week or two since I have a lot going on here at the moment.

I should think this could be a popular version.

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PostPosted: Wed 11 Nov 2009, 15:40    Post subject:  

tronkel wrote:
@tlchost.

The best solution here is for somebody (me?) to build a live CD containing Puppy 431 plus Eldy plus Java all configured and ready to go.


That's very gracious offer....but I think a far better solution for me would having someone document how to install the java and Eldy, or make a pet, so that it could be used in any of the various 4.3.1 flavors of Puppy.

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PostPosted: Wed 11 Nov 2009, 15:53    Post subject:  

Try this java pet http://dotpups.de/puppy4/dotpups/Programming/eclipse/java-1.6.16-i586.pet
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PostPosted: Wed 11 Nov 2009, 16:57    Post subject:  

ITAmember wrote:
Try this java pet http://dotpups.de/puppy4/dotpups/Programming/eclipse/java-1.6.16-i586.pet


Thanks very much....I can now run Eldy from the cli with the command
java -jar /usr/local/eldy/eldy.jar

How can I call it from the desktop?

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PostPosted: Wed 11 Nov 2009, 17:48    Post subject:  

tlchost
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How can I call it from the desktop?

What about a bash script?
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PostPosted: Wed 11 Nov 2009, 18:20    Post subject:  

A more general solution would be to set the default run action for jar files.

1. Navigate to /usr/local/eldy
2. Right click on eldy.jar -> Set run action.
3. Where the dialog says "Enter a shell command:" type
Code:
java -jar "$@"

4. Click "Use Command".
5. Drag the jar file to the desktop.
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PostPosted: Sun 15 Nov 2009, 08:02    Post subject:  

ITAmember wrote:
A more general solution would be to set the default run action for jar files


Thanks very much.

Thom
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PostPosted: Fri 04 Dec 2009, 07:45    Post subject: New Eldy Release
Subject description: Suggestions welcomed
 

An updated version of Eldy is scheduled for release for Chirstmas. I'm working on a US language file, and another Eldy user is working on the UK language file.

The Eldy developers have requested that US and UK users make suggestions for weblinks and TV links that would be of interest to their target users(seniors).

I'd be happy to pass on any suggestions that folks in the Puppy Community may have for these type of non-technical links.

Thanks

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MyPup

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PostPosted: Fri 04 Dec 2009, 10:40    Post subject:  

It would be nice if someone would make a nice lightweight pupplet using the Eldy interface or something along these lines for a "senior puppy" flavor. <-Hint Hint. I have been looking for something like this for awhile. I do refurb for a non-profit that gives computers to senior centers, childcare centers, and other non-profits, schools, etc. As of late I have been incorporating various puppy flavors into the organization with great success. With puppy on these older machines it just makes good use of older hardware that is donated. I hope someone will consider making a version of puppy along these lines for the elderly.
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PostPosted: Fri 04 Dec 2009, 11:23    Post subject: Something similar by Lobster  

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=1102534791&t=49117

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=1538906567&t=49281
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PostPosted: Fri 04 Dec 2009, 13:32    Post subject:  

Thanks for the links Nancy, I am downloading the iso and sfs package now. Looking forward to testing these out.
Thanks for the info. Very Happy
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