Is Puppy Green?

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#101 Post by ecomoney »

Thank you for the compliment Tronkel

I have been accused of trying to modify puppy just so I can make money with it. Just because its free shouldnt mean its not worth anything!

Perhaps a new thread on this topic? I shouldnt be the one to start it though 8)
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#102 Post by thane »

"Is Puppy Green?"

Yes! According to the website below, 75% of a computer's fossil fuel usage occurs during manufacture; only 25% during its working life (the link doesn't address disposal). So extending the life of a computer (reducing demand for a new one) is the most important "green" computer thing you can do. This holds even if an old computer running Puppy uses more energy than a new one running Windows does.

http://www.ecopcreview.com/LCA_and_ECPR?page=0%2C1

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#103 Post by Aitch »

& Greenpeace [quoting nicely out of date reference!]

http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/blog/toxic ... ws20071204
Yes, a UK government study in late 2004 reported that there were substantial green benefits to running a Linux open source operating system (OS) on computers instead of the ubiquitous Windows OS, owned by Microsoft. The main problem with Windows users was that they had to change their computer twice as many times as Linux users, as successive Windows OS upgrades demanded more hard drive space and faster processing speeds. On average, the study concluded, Windows effectively created twice as much computer-generated e-waste as Linux.

The report, titled Office of Government Commerce: Open Source Software Trials in Government - Final Report said that:

"There are also potential Green Agenda benefits, through reducing the energy and resources consumed in manufacturing replacement equipment, and reducing landfill requirements and costs arising from disposal of redundant equipment.

"Industry observers quote a typical hardware refresh period for Microsoft Windows systems as 3-4 years; a major UK manufacturing organisation quotes its hardware refresh period for Linux systems as 6-8 years."

Overall the report concluded that:

"Open Source software is a viable and credible alternative to proprietary software for infrastructure implementations, and for meeting the requirements of the majority of desktop users."


Something to bear in mind next time Microsoft tries to bully you into upgrading to yet another 'latest version' of its OS, I reckon.
Nice turn of phrase, repeated for effect...."Microsoft tries to bully you into upgrading to yet another 'latest version' of its OS" :wink:

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#104 Post by Lobster »

. . . and I still await disposable hemp clothes as a mainstream item (rather than fashion)

It isn't here yet
but bio-degradable tablets (I think the laptop has had its day)
will certainly be fun.
http://www.good.is/post/recyclable-paper-laptop/

roll on nano technology
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#105 Post by Aitch »

Perhaps if we post a request for bio-technologists reading this, to make a plastic/laptop eating nanobug? :lol:

A few [or more] years ago I could've supplied the fibre for your hemp clothing....but I'm not cultivating any more :wink:

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#106 Post by TomRhymer »

I don't if it can be considered green, it does allow old computers to stay useful but I wish it had better power management.

On my netbook, I get 5 to 10 hours battery life in WinXP depending on useage. Since I'm usually just reading text or browsing, I get 8 to 10 hours normally. In Puppy, I get 5 hours no matter what. I've tried the CPU scaler, but it doesn't seem to change anything with an Atom processor.

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#107 Post by Aitch »

Hi

It won't - CPU scaler is for Intel chips AFAIK

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#108 Post by TomRhymer »

Aitch wrote:Hi

It won't - CPU scaler is for Intel chips AFAIK

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The Atom IS an Intel chip.

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#109 Post by Aitch »

my bad, intended to say pentium, however.......
search here:

cpufreq: /lib/modules/2.6.30.5/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq
governors: /lib/modules/2.6.30.5/kernel/drivers/cpufreq

aragon
something to do with ondemand vs performance setting, AFAICS

see here

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=28443

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