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gray


Joined: 23 Feb 2007
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Location: Adelaide - South Australia

PostPosted: Sun 25 Oct 2009, 07:37    Post subject:  NOP 431
Subject description: Puppy Linux 4.3.1 Nearly Office Pup
 

It's finally here - NOP 431 available at http://puppylinux.asia/tpp/NOP

Nearly Office Pup is a puplet with office apps removed and using the XFCE desktop. The idea is that the puplet is run from frugal install or USB stick and an appropriate SFS file of your favourite office apps is used. Usually this would be OpenOffice, but could be Goffice (Abiword & Gnumeric) or even Koffice.

For Goffice (Abiword & Gnumeric) try the goffice-43.sfs file at the above site.

NOP 431 is based on Puppy 4.3.1 but with the Xfce / Thunar desktop replacing JWM / Rox, and of course Abiword & Gnumeric, Homebank, notecase removed. Opera 10 replaces Seamonkey as the web browser.

Pwidgets 2.5 is included but not active by default.

Revision 1: 5 Nov 2009
fixed missing libs for wvdial
upgraded to Opera 10.01 and Transmission 1.76
upgraded openssh to 5.2p1

Revision 2: 15 Jan 2010
upgraded Opera to 10.10
upgraded flash to 10.0.42.34
upgraded gparted to 0.4.8
pfind 4.16
pfilesearch 1,21
mtpaint 3.34
printoxx 2.1
getez replaced pwsget
pnethood fix for empty password
pupevent_backend fix
xine plugin fix
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Sage

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PostPosted: Sun 25 Oct 2009, 07:42    Post subject:  

Magnificent! Thanks, gray, good to know that you're still in business and offering choices (eg Xfce, Thunar, Opera) that most prefer! And your derivatives are the only ones that shut down properly on all my kit.

Update: Abiword d/l successful but won't run - error loading shared libwv-1.2.so.4 etc No such...

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PostPosted: Sun 25 Oct 2009, 08:30    Post subject:  

Thanks Gray,
Oh . . . will have to try it Smile
One of our favourite puplets used as the start for many projects Smile
Old wiki page now has new link and needs further updating
(wiki editors welcome)

http://puppylinux.org/wikka/NOP

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friedsonjm

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PostPosted: Sun 25 Oct 2009, 08:44    Post subject: Openoffice, Firefox  

I will give this a try.. recommedations as to best version of openoffice 3.5 sfs t download and from where? Also, best way to install firefox 3.5?
thanks! jf
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magerlab

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PostPosted: Sun 25 Oct 2009, 09:14    Post subject:  

NOP is my favorite on eee pc
the only thing i do not like is ugly qt3 look without polymer theme ( it's the first thing i do:)

@gray : will there be BOXpup 4.3 also?
maybe even lighter with pcmanfm( i use pcmanfm-nohal from deb) and lxpanel 5.3 ( mostly work fine on 4.3)

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Henry

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PostPosted: Sun 25 Oct 2009, 09:41    Post subject: How to Upgrade from Nop 4.1.3 r1?  

Good morning, gray,
Nice surprise to see this so soon.
Looks very good with pfix=ram.
How does one (can one) upgrade from Nop413r1?

Thanks, Henry
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Sage

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PostPosted: Mon 26 Oct 2009, 03:53    Post subject:  

Quote:
Update: Abiword d/l successful but won't run - error loading shared libwv-1.2.so.4 etc No such...


Any kind soul want to tell us how to fix this, please?!
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JMX

Joined: 29 Dec 2008
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PostPosted: Mon 26 Oct 2009, 04:28    Post subject:  

gray,

Running frugal, all drive and partition icons appear correctly on the desktop when there is no pupsave file (or pfix=ram). But whenever there is a pupsave file then the appearance of drive icons is inconsistent. Even the home drive icon does not appear. With varying results, I can get the remaining icons to appear by manually toggling them with Pmount and/or running the included Partview. No such problems with 431 final (JWM/Rox), and even your Boxpup 413 (Openbox/Thunar) finds the drives every time. So it must be something peculiar in the Xfce handling. (I am going to write a script to restart X with a single click.)

It would be nice if the flash and grafix blocker buttons were already in Opera.

I gotta have Ayttm for Google jabber. I would vote to have Ayttm included and then leave PSIP or SKYPE as an add-on pet.

I seem to be leaning toward your Boxpup (with both Firepup and Opera10) as my workhorse because of my experience to date.

No question about it. Puppy with your Thunar file manager configuration is the one I would introduce to "immigrants".
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gray


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PostPosted: Mon 26 Oct 2009, 05:43    Post subject: NOP issues  

Sage,
Are you sure you downloaded the correct goffice sfs ?

goffice-43.sfs works fine for me.

JMX,
I hoped this would not be needed (and indeed NOP is OK on any machine I tested) but on slow machines I think Xfce sometimes needs a poke. Try adding the following lines to the .xinitrc file just before the #v2.11 GuestToo line near the bottom.

# sometimes need to 'poke' xfwm to display icons
( sleep 12 && touch -c /root/Desktop/*.desktop ) &
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Sage

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PostPosted: Mon 26 Oct 2009, 07:21    Post subject:  

Thanks for your response, gray.
Answer: "no" ! I'm not doing much with PCs at present due to other major projects. And was never a SW person which is why I appreciate your polished offerings so highly.
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Terryphi


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Location: West Wales, Britain.

PostPosted: Mon 26 Oct 2009, 12:24    Post subject: How to restart x-server in NOP?  

Nice work, Gray. Just one question .... how can I restart x-server? You don't have an option in the menus. I like a resolution of 1024x768 but at this resolution it always boots with the display moved to the right. The workaround for me in Barry's 4.31 is to restart x-server immediately after boot and this moves the display to where it ought to be....... hence my question.
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JMX

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PostPosted: Mon 26 Oct 2009, 14:31    Post subject:  

gray,

Quote:

Try adding the following lines to the .xinitrc file just before the #v2.11 GuestToo line near the bottom.

# sometimes need to 'poke' xfwm to display icons
( sleep 12 && touch -c /root/Desktop/*.desktop ) &


That solved it!

Now all of my drive icons appear on the destop (Pentium III 800Mhz).
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CRF

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PostPosted: Mon 26 Oct 2009, 16:28    Post subject:  

Woo Hoo! I can't wait to get off work, go home and download the new NOP!

Hopefully my broadcom wireless will work right off the bat, just as it did in NOP413!
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blubb_fallo

Joined: 20 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Mon 26 Oct 2009, 16:48    Post subject: Re: NOP 431
Subject description: Puppy Linux 4.3.1 Nearly Office Pup
 

gray wrote:
It's finally here - NOP 431 available at http://puppylinux.asia/tpp/NOP

I would really like to give NOP 4.3.1 a try. The posts above indicate that some people have been able to download it successfully, but currently, that site requires login. Is there any other place where the iso is available?
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PostPosted: Mon 26 Oct 2009, 18:03    Post subject:  

try puppy and then linux
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