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Re: WiFi (WPA) on a EeePC901

#2261 Post by tempestuous »

Well the rt2860sta driver I compiled is definitely WPA-compatible.
First I would delete a configuration file left over from ttuuxxx's dotpet -
/etc/Wireless/RT2860STA/RT2860STA.dat
this contains default wifi configuration settings which might be conflicting with your wpa_supplicant command.
mawebb88 wrote:

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wpa_supplicant -i ra0 -D wext -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -B
/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf was the correct location for the WPA configuration file only with older versions of the Network Wizard.
If Puppy 214X has a modern Network Wizard (??) then the location will be
/etc/network-wizard/wireless/wpa_profiles/wpa_supplicant.conf

And of course the WPA configuration file must be modified to include your SSID and Personal Security Key (PSK).
Then the correct command would be

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wpa_supplicant -i ra0 -D wext -c /etc/network-wizard/wireless/wpa_profiles/wpa_supplicant.conf -dd
... or if you're using WPA2 encryption, the WPA configuration file is
/etc/network-wizard/wireless/wpa_profiles/wpa_supplicant2.conf

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214X15 for KIDZ?

#2262 Post by Puppyt »

Cheers again ttuuxx,

live-CD boot onto 16Mb RAM was definitely fool's errand - the taskbar is up and the Menu is populated but still a blackscreen background with no wallpaper and icons yet - 24hrs after first startup! At least I know that the Pentium CPU, onboard RAM and battery have seen a good workout - apparently this 430CDS laptop had been sitting untouched in a cupboard for nearly 5 years beforehand. Hasn't missed a beat despite the glacierpace install. Seems now worth the risk to throw some hardware upgrades into it...

Meantimes I've attempted a "remaster" of 214X15 on a bigger computer - and quickly saw the act as frankly sacrilegious: what a fabulous range of apps you've put into this (outlined over pages 141-142 of this thread). I don't think that I could ever use half of them, but that's entirely by-the by. You've certainly poured a huge amount of consideration and effort into it. I even installed the 4.12-compiled Launchy pet as a test replacement to taskbars and desktop icons - runs brilliantly on the 214X15, a neat illustration that your series 2 update bridges a huge range of applications and hardware. Well Done!
The real purpose of the remaster was to develop a kind of downmarket HSB (HamSamBen, an EduPup update) for kids with donated or less-than-standard computers running at least 64Mb. (Perhaps sidder's 3 HSB sfs files will work straightaway on a 214X, given 512Mb.) To keep overheads down I imagined using the games you have already, plus a suite of flash games similar to those on WebPup /Barbie Expanded, java-based games like the recent remakes of the 80's classics, "Lords of Midnight" and "Doomdark's Revenge" (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lords_of_midnight) and removing the heavier (and perhaps less fun) apps like AbiWord, inkscape-lite, gnumeric and all the calculators, and all the networking and multimedia stuff, cd and dvd rippers and mixers etc (with the exceptions of Beep and Gxine, Zmixer and Sweep - that looks like loads of fun with a microphone!).

Caught your earlier post on another thread regarding Pet-be-gone and it's limitation to the removal of only standard/official pets (sorry can't ref it at present - it was in February 2009). Tried your workaround of tracking down and downloading the unofficial pet, renaming it from *.pet to *tar.gz, and then extracting it to hunt down and remove the traces in Rox. Phew! I think I will give your FH-retroLite another attempt on this old laptop first before I try a proper remaster.

The fully-fledged 214X certainly Rocks. My thanks to you and all your volunteer contributors.
(signed)
An Errant Fool

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#2263 Post by davesurrey »

ttuuxxx,

Well I thought it might be helpful if I made a quick reference list to what I understand would be possible changes/inclusions/bug fixes to the next version of 214X. It's based on what's in 214X15.

1. add desktop-menu for TightVNC. http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... start=2188

2. add symlink

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   ln -s /opt/samba/bin/smbspool  /usr/lib/cups/backend/smb 
and also start-up script

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#!/bin/sh 
exec /etc/init.d/cups restart 
for CUPS. see http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... start=2194

3. also need to add symlink
ensure /etc/init.d and /etc/rc.d/init.d both exist and symlink /etc/rc.d/init.d to /etc/init.d
see http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... start=2169

4. Do you intend swopping mrxvt for rxvt?

5. Not sure if the LADSPA plug-ins were in x15 (I might have added them in myself on my install separately. http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... start=2175

6. BMP skins. clarf says
Skins for BMP are in sub-directories, they should be .zip or wsz compressed files.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... start=2188

6a. Also in same message clarf says
In background setter When I use "Reload" or "change folder" the application is closed instead.
7.
superswitcher dies if you kill something from the taskbar or the window menu bar
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... start=2199

8. No printing from Firefox.
I can print from abiword and open office just fine, but if I try to print from firefox my printer isn't listed. The only options I have available are print to lpr or file
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... start=2222

9. Are you going to add 01micko's Pcountdown timer? Now at version 0.2
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=47834

10. Also will you add Barry's Partview (as revised by clarf) Needs partview.gz and ppmtogif.gz see http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... start=2216

11. Await the status of mawebb88's eee sound, wifi and screen resolution issues.

12. Sorry but got no response trying to get someone to help fix the double menus in Gxine.

HTH
Dave

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Re: Alsa in 214x15

#2264 Post by ttuuxxx »

mawebb88 wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:mawebb88 did you try the alsa package I compiled, it might fix your sound issue
http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/2.14series/alsa/
ttuuxxx
@ttuuxxx

Ok thanks I will give it a try. But which of these pets:

alsa-driver-1.0.20-i386.pet
alsa-firmware-1.0.20-i386.pet
alsa-lib-1.0.20-i386.pet
alsa-oss-1.0.17-i386.pet
alsa-plugins-1.0.20-i386.pet
alsa-utils-1.0.20-i386.pet

All of them?

Rgds Mike
Hi Mike
hmmm looks like Barry only uses 2 of them in a build,
alsa-lib-1.0.20-i386.pet
alsa-utils-1.0.20-i386.pet
so if a newer puppy say 4&5 series works with sound, I would try those 2 pets, but If you don't have sound with any puppy version, I would try them all. combined its around 9MB. but first probably just start with the first 2 alsa-lib-1.0.20-i386.pet, alsa-utils-1.0.20-i386.pet
good-luck
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Re: 214X15 for KIDZ?

#2265 Post by ttuuxxx »

Puppyt wrote: Hasn't missed a beat despite the glacierpace install. Seems now worth the risk to throw some hardware upgrades into it...

Meantimes I've attempted a "remaster" of 214X15 on a bigger computer - and quickly saw the act as frankly sacrilegious: what a fabulous range of apps you've put into this
Thanks Puppyt we've all done a lot of work and its nice to see people happy with it :)
ttuuxxx
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http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#2266 Post by ttuuxxx »

davesurrey wrote:ttuuxxx,

Well I thought it might be helpful if I made a quick reference list to what I understand would be possible changes/inclusions/bug fixes to the next version of 214X. It's based on what's in 214X15.
HTH
Dave
Thanks Dave another great list, That will certainly help a lot :)
I'll use your list on the weekend :)
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http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#2267 Post by davesurrey »

ttuuxxx

I found your mupdf-2009-07-07.pet and as I have a load of pdf files I tried it on 214X15.

Running it from the CLI I get
mupdf [-d password] [-z zoom] [-p pagenumber] file.pdf
but making a desktop file I get nada.

I though this was a gui based super fast opener of pdf files.
Am I mistaken?

Help!

Cheers
Dave

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Re: Alsa in 214x15

#2268 Post by mawebb88 »

ttuuxxx wrote:
mawebb88 wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:mawebb88 did you try the alsa package I compiled, it might fix your sound issue
http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/2.14series/alsa/
ttuuxxx
@ttuuxxx

Ok thanks I will give it a try. But which of these pets:

alsa-driver-1.0.20-i386.pet
alsa-firmware-1.0.20-i386.pet
alsa-lib-1.0.20-i386.pet
alsa-oss-1.0.17-i386.pet
alsa-plugins-1.0.20-i386.pet
alsa-utils-1.0.20-i386.pet

All of them?

Rgds Mike
Hi Mike
hmmm looks like Barry only uses 2 of them in a build,
alsa-lib-1.0.20-i386.pet
alsa-utils-1.0.20-i386.pet
so if a newer puppy say 4&5 series works with sound, I would try those 2 pets, but If you don't have sound with any puppy version, I would try them all. combined its around 9MB. but first probably just start with the first 2 alsa-lib-1.0.20-i386.pet, alsa-utils-1.0.20-i386.pet
good-luck
ttuuxxx
Hi ttuuxxx

Unfortunately nothing worked. Tried installing the 2 mentioned first and re-booted. No sound so installed the remaining 4 and rebooted. No sound. Ran the Alsa wizard. Rebooted still no joy. Basically no sound card is detected (as reported if I try Zmixer). Pity but I think its a Eee specific issue.

Rgds Mike

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#2269 Post by cthisbear »

Just out of interest for you ttuuxxx.

Saw this on Majorgeeks.
I don't like Firefox myself as I prefer Seamonkey.

" SpeedyFox is a brand new small utility that fixes this problem with a single click! It seems unbelievable but after you optimize your Firefox
with this tool, you will get a fresh newly-installed feel because
the speed indeed gets considerably faster. You will get up 3 times
faster startup speed, browsing history will become faster, and
performing operations with cookies will be quicker than before. "

http://majorgeeks.com/SpeedyFox_d6241.html

http://www.crystalidea.com/speedyfox

//////////////////

Whilst I was trying to remember where I came across SpeedyFox
I came across some other bits and pieces.

I know this is Windows but there might be something for Linux.

http://java.about.com/b/2009/10/23/fire ... ate-10.htm

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/5817

http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/08/24 ... databases/

http://blog.mozilla.com/oremj/2009/08/2 ... th-vacuum/

Regards Chris

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#2270 Post by ttuuxxx »

Hi davesurrey I'm updating 2.14X right now which countdown timer do you want in the release? There are 3 or 4 now, lol
thanks
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#2271 Post by ttuuxxx »

davesurrey wrote:ttuuxxx,

Well I thought it might be helpful if I made a quick reference list to what I understand would be possible changes/inclusions/bug fixes to the next version of 214X. It's based on what's in 214X15.


2. add symlink

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   ln -s /opt/samba/bin/smbspool  /usr/lib/cups/backend/smb 
<--- already in v15 and also start-up script

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#!/bin/sh 
exec /etc/init.d/cups restart <--- already in v15 in the root/startup folder and it works
for CUPS. see http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... start=2194

HTH
Dave
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http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
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#2272 Post by ttuuxxx »

davesurrey wrote:ttuuxxx,

Well I thought it might be helpful if I made a quick reference list to what I understand would be possible changes/inclusions/bug fixes to the next version of 214X. It's based on what's in 214X15.



3. also need to add symlink
ensure /etc/init.d and /etc/rc.d/init.d both exist and symlink /etc/rc.d/init.d to /etc/init.d <--- how can I make a system link to /etc/init.d when you say "ensure /etc/init.d and /etc/rc.d/init.d both exist" Its already a folder by the first part of your line, so it can't be a folder and a system link with the same name, I'll just system link it :)
see http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... start=2169

HTH
Dave
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#2273 Post by davesurrey »

ttuuxxx wrote:
Hi davesurrey I'm updating 2.14X right now which countdown timer do you want in the release
My personal preference is for 01micko's version now at version 0.20 I believe. That was my point 9 in the list which I guess you haven't go to yet.
<--- how can I make a system link to /etc/init.d when you say "ensure /etc/init.d and /etc/rc.d/init.d both exist" Its already a folder by the first part of your line, so it can't be a folder and a system link with the same name, I'll just system link it
There were several changes you made and also I made to my setup so I was unsure just what was in 214x15 and what wasn't.

So if /etc/init.d already exists then yes please just make the symlink.

2. add symlink Code:
ln -s /opt/samba/bin/smbspool /usr/lib/cups/backend/smb
<--- already in v15 and also start-up script
If that's the case then great. Just checking and my notes say that the start menu was in x15 but the link didn't work. I could well be wrong however. :-)

HTH
Cheers
Dave

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#2274 Post by ttuuxxx »

Hi Dave I read about Firefox printing not working, So I looked around and found a interesting solution, because I guess its FF3 that has printing issues, so Install this pet and it will give you all the options you'll ever need :)
I just had to make a small script to make it work with FF:)
included are all the locales that will not be included in the main 2.14X release.
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#2275 Post by ttuuxxx »

ps could someone test it in Firefox and also do a test page with abiword, I want to make sure it doesn't break anything. Once again I don't have a printer on Linux machines to test it.
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#2276 Post by ttuuxxx »

When you test the printing the printing pet package above select lpr, That starts the script that loads the program, I replaced lpr with it, So if your print uses or doesn't use lpr it will use the new application instead.
Ps could someone test soon, I would like to make this release tonight and I'll only be up for maybe one more hr, I have to work in the morning real early, well I get up at 5am :shock:
ttuuxxx

This is where I got the idea from
http://lists.pcbsd.org/pipermail/testin ... 01898.html
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#2277 Post by ttuuxxx »

I added the 2 partview files and well it doesn't look right.
I used clarfs files from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 309#351309
So I won't be changing unless someone finds a fix :)
I guess I'll have to finish this release tomorrow after work.
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#2278 Post by ttuuxxx »

This is the change List so far, almost everything on the list posted 2 pages back.

add desktop-menu for TightVNC.
systemlink /etc/rc.d/init.d to /etc/init.d
changed mrxvt for rxvt
if [ "$CHANGE" = "" ];then # MHHP in /usr/local/apps/XkbConfigurationManager/XkbLayoutConfig line 35
I zipped up 2 of 3 of the BMP skins(Default does work as zipped), did really save all that much space, plus it actually might make them larger due to the fact that SFS compression might be less compared in zip format because images compress really well with sfs. But there well complaints so I'll go for it. lol
removed "Reload" or "change folder" from the background setter since it didn't work and really wasn't needed
added PCountdown

ttuuxxx
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#2279 Post by MinHundHettePerro »

Installing gtklp-1.2.7-i386.pet enabled printing from FF, while not breaking already working printing from Abiword (only did a before_and_after test with a simple garbish-text file).

gtklp has a nice interface with some long-missed options :).

(HP DeskJet815C, with only a black ink cartridge)

hth/
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#2280 Post by clarf »

ttuuxxx wrote:I added the 2 partview files and well it doesn't look right.
I used clarfs files from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 309#351309
So I won't be changing unless someone finds a fix :)
I guess I'll have to finish this release tomorrow after work.
ttuuxxx
Hi ttuuxxx, are you sure you updated "ppmtogif" file, this little tool renders the color bars for the used space, it`s not working in 214x then you have to update it from 4.3. I see you already downloaded this file from that post, try copying it directly from 4.3 and please ensure it replace the one in /usr/bin in 214x.

Also test directly this ppmtogif tool from command line.

It works for me, also Dave and others confirmed that, please check that file.

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