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amigo

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PostPosted: Wed 07 Oct 2009, 12:01    Post subject:  
If only Puppy would switch to a sane package format like used by slackware -then anybody could create really super, complete, sane and correct packages with a single command using src2pkg. Using that format allows you to use already-existing dependency-resolving package managers like slapt-get.
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PostPosted: Thu 08 Oct 2009, 11:36    Post subject:  
amigo wrote:
If only Puppy would switch to a sane package format like used by slackware -then anybody could create really super, complete, sane and correct packages with a single command using src2pkg. Using that format allows you to use already-existing dependency-resolving package managers like slapt-get.



Hey amigo
"If only ".... well um ...ah

you can have that too Very Happy

and in your familar way of doing it
with pkgtool you can install /uninstall view what packages were installed the standard "official way " (for slackers that is )



******************one stop shopping *************************

ISO
http://www.puppy2.org/slaxer/Slaxer_Pup-4.12_USB.iso

pkgtools-13.0-patched-10-i486-slxr.pet
http://puppy2.org/slaxer/pkgtools-13.0-patched-10-i486-slxr.pet
updated Oct 11 2009

unpackager-dragNdrop-1-i486-slxr.pet
http://www.puppy2.org/slaxer/unpackager-dragNdrop-1-i486-slxr.pet

to compile apps this is needed
devx_412.sfs
ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/sfs_modules-4/devx_412.sfs


*now with the above installed and the devx set up in the boot manager *you just click on the pkgtools icon and from there you'll feel at home to install src2pkg the correct way with pkgtools


src2pkg build packages from source code for the best compatibility
updated 10-9-2009
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/amigolinux/download/src2pkg/src2pkg-1.9.9-noarch-3.tgz


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then anybody could create really super, complete, sane and correct packages with a single command using src2pkg.



an older post with some good info http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=41298&start=74


Yep!


updated pkgtools-13.0-patched-10-i486-slxr.pet
I made an edit to makepkg

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PostPosted: Thu 08 Oct 2009, 12:44    Post subject:  
This is the latest release, Joe:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/amigolinux/download/src2pkg/src2pkg-1.9.9-noarch-3.tgz

Have a read through the CHANGES file here:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/amigolinux/download/src2pkg/CHANGES[/url]
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PostPosted: Thu 08 Oct 2009, 13:12    Post subject:  
Joe

What with ttuuxxx taking a workbreak, I hope you, too, keep an eye on Jay's philosophy,

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=45264

as we can't afford to suddenly lose any more good devs

....even if it's a 'good change'... Wink


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PostPosted: Fri 09 Oct 2009, 12:10    Post subject:  
Thanks amigo
I updated the above post with your latest package



Aitch
thanks also for reminding me again

the mind is where we spend the most time
fill it with positive thoughts and life
and enjoy the ride


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pakt


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PostPosted: Sat 10 Oct 2009, 09:35    Post subject:  
Hey guys, I've finally gotten around to taking a look at what causes the irritating "count-to-ten" delay when booting SlaxerPup. It comes right after "Waiting for modules to complete loading...".

Turns out it's because the SlaxerPup kernel has the USB modules built-in, whereas Barry has the modules loaded during booting. He has put in code to wait for the module names to appear in 'lsmod' before continuing, with a 10 sec timeout.

Since the module names never appear in 'lsmod' (they are already in the kernel), the code times-out every time.

I've commented out the lines for the delay in rc.sysinit and have attached the modified script. Just unpack the tarball and copy it over /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit

I plan to spend more time with SlaxerPup and may use Pizzasgood's recipe to make it multi-user. My wife has used Puppy on her laptop in the past but runs Ubuntu now. However, she misses the ease-of-use of Puppy and would like to be able to work with her OpenOffice files from either OS (I've set up multi-booting). The problem is that Puppy leaves the files as owned by 'root' which Ubuntu can't easily open (must be 'root' of course). Creating the same user in multi-user SlaxerPup should make sharing the files (easily) possible.

Of course another solution would be to save the files on a vfat partition as the permissions aren't saved there, but that would be too easy Wink

Btw, I did look at bypassing looking for Puppy files on other drives when booting from a flash drive, but Barry apparently uses the searching of drives to define a number of variables that are used later in 'init'. Once I saw that, I stopped looking Shocked

Paul
rc.sysinit_delay_fix.tar.gz
Description  rc.init without the 10-sec delay. Just unpack and copy over /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit
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Filename  rc.sysinit_delay_fix.tar.gz 
Filesize  6.34 KB 
Downloaded  227 Time(s) 

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PostPosted: Sat 10 Oct 2009, 13:29    Post subject:  
pakt wrote:


<partial quote original above >

I've commented out the lines for the delay in rc.sysinit and have attached the modified script. Just unpack the tarball and copy it over /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit




Paul (pakt) Great to see you around again!
funny you posted today I thought to write to you today
before reading your post
and a super big thanks for fixing that ten second delay
all your help is always warmly welcomed

It will be added to the next update





pakt wrote:

I plan to spend more time with SlaxerPup and may use Pizzasgood's recipe to make it multi-user
Paul


yeah Pizzasgood's multi-user is something needed
I looked over some of his code it would be great to package that
as a package

so it could be tweaked "if needed" then easily installed and kept updated


hope you are feeling better

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Aitch


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PostPosted: Sat 10 Oct 2009, 14:55    Post subject:  
Oh yes....some good development going on.... Very Happy

Joe, you may be interested in this, too

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=47627&start=15

Technosaurus is Co-ordinating, I believe, as well as the 4.4CE stuff

I believe he's also a slax fan & pizzasgood seems involved too, so hopefully multiuser and multi-sfs mounting/timing will get a fresh look

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PostPosted: Mon 12 Oct 2009, 09:06    Post subject:  
well, this is something different
devx as a tgz package

why?
this is for live cd building of packages or one time install only (for full installs made easy )
its a *tgz slaxer package which allows it to be updated /renamed easily
something that the SFS devx won't let you do easily

it is the standard 412 devx *except it has an install script to build the symlinks for you


412-devx-i486-2.tgz 2009-10-10 82M
http://puppy2.org/slaxer/412-devx-i486-2.tgz


side note : I updated pkgtool
I made an edit to makepkg to fix an error with the current directory
not allowing makepkg

* This was planned for live cd ease of use but since I
had an extra hard drive for tests . I did a full install /grub
installing the devx tgz with pkgtool was so easy Very Happy



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PostPosted: Thu 15 Oct 2009, 10:01    Post subject:  
netmodules-slaxerpup-412.pet
click_here

brief description: This updated the network wizard's list of possible drivers that gets displayed in connection wizard since I had to make this specially for slaxer-pup (because of the different kernel) there were some changes so if your driver wasn't on the the list before it may be now you should add this anyway its complete ( you still need Dougal's updated wizard )


These are the updated drivers to GUI list in the internet connection wizard :

amd8111e "pci: AMD8111 based 10/100 Ethernet Controller. Driver Version 3.0.7"

ath9k "pci: Support for Atheros 802.11n wireless LAN cards."

atl1e "pci: Atheros 1000M Ethernet Network Driver"

bnx2 "pci: Broadcom NetXtreme II BCM5706/5708/5709 Driver"

hso "usb: USB High Speed Option driver"

ipg "pci: IC Plus IP1000 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter Linux Driver"

qla3xxx "pci: QLogic ISP3XXX Network Driver v2.03.00-k5 "

rtl8187 "usb: RTL8187/RTL8187B USB wireless driver"

sfc "pci: Solarflare Communications network driver"





gtk-xinput-2.12.1-i486-slxr.tgz
click_here

brief description: This is pizasgood fix for the insert key crash
I repackaged it and added the install script to make the symlinks
use pkgtool to install it





git-1.6.5-i486-slxr.pet
click_here

brief description: This is for GIT not needed for slaxer pup
to function correctly but it is a development tool
for a good explanation on puppy using git
pizzasgood wrote an extensive how to and uploaded a tree
http://pizzasgood.no-ip.org/puppy_git/

I have been busy automating my web page
it is all run by a bash script to generate the code with just one click Very Happy

I am happy with the progress because before I started on it I had no clue how to create a html/php template less automate it with bash

I first looked for a simple template for a package list and
didnt find anything I could figure out so I wrote my own

I will post the script when I finish commenting it for the next guy that has to set up his site quickly since it will be easy to edit

if anyone has some good templates for a package repo please post them

Joe
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Oct 2009, 18:59    Post subject:  
big_bass:

I haven't read all the posts of Slaxer but I thought that I might
alert you to this.

Wpa_Gui: Finally a real network manager for puppy

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=47838

Cheers ....Chris.
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Oct 2009, 23:47    Post subject:  
cthisbear wrote:
big_bass:

I haven't read all the posts of Slaxer but I thought that I might
alert you to this.

Wpa_Gui: Finally a real network manager for puppy

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=47838

Cheers ....Chris.


Thanks for posting the info Chris (cthisbear)

all the help to make networking easier
is always welcomed I am checking it out now

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PostPosted: Fri 16 Oct 2009, 11:59    Post subject: package repo template  
an off topic but someone may need this
this is the script to make a simple package repo index

history of what happened
Raffy PM'd me and said I have to use the account he set up quickly or it will expire

well ,I had to act fast and set up a repo Very Happy

not prepared for the sudden adventure
this script saved my butt Laughing

a big thanks to Raffy for letting me use his server

Joe
Code:

#!/bin/sh
#last updated 10-13-2009
#script  made by Joe arose first template 
# this makes the index.html for a simple package repo
#it is an all in one script so I can easily keep the package list updated
# I built this out of need and it needed to be easily updated
# I didn't want web page development to take all my time
# I'm too busy doing other things

#1.)what you need to know
#these are where you drop in the packages
#the pets  to upload or are uploaded and you keep adding to the folder
#/root/asia_pets

#2.)/root/html-tagset.html  #blank it  will be auto renamed to index.php-new later 
# this will be the newly generated index

#3.)#I have a folder where I can test before I upload
#that contains all the images that will be used called  "puppy2-slaxer-index"
# I'll make it for you just in case at the end of this script
#cp /root/html-tagset.html  /root/puppy2-slaxer-index/index.php-new
# you then remame it stripping off the -new   (that's just a safety)

 
mkdir -p /root/asia_pets
echo >/root/html-tagset.html  #blank it  will be renamed to index.php-new later 
cd /root/asia_pets            # where I keep the pets I will upload  these get listed

# starts the head of the html  edit the names its a big echo
echo '<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2 Final//EN">
<html>
 <head>
  <title>Index of /slaxer_pup 4.12 </title>
 </head></font>
 <body>
<BODY BGCOLOR="#000000" BACKGROUND="stars_background.gif">
 <pre><img src="slxminilogo.gif" alt="Icon "> <a href="?C=N;O=D"></a>   
 <pre><img src="newlogo.png" alt="Icon "> <a href="?C=N;O=D"></a><br />
<font size="+2" color="#FFFFFF">* Important Note:<img src=iso.png><a href=Slaxer_Pup-4.12_USB.iso><font size="5" color="#FFFF00"> Slaxer_Pup-4.12_USB.iso</a><br /><font size="+2" color="#FFFFFF">  86MB  is for those that had problems booting off or reading<br />  save files from USB  note: only the initrd.gz was changed  <br />
<font size="+2" color="#FFFFFF">* some of my older work this will run a 486 <img src=iso.png alt=[ ]> <a href=fat-free-2.16-dillo.iso><font size="5" color="#FFFF00">fat-free-2.16-dillo.iso </a><br /><font size="+2" color="#FFFFFF">  "very stripped down" 56MB
<font size="+2" color="#FFFFFF">* More information about packages listed here <img src=info.png alt=[ ]> <a href=info.txt><font size="5" color="#FFFF00">info.txt </a>
<br />'>>/root/html-tagset.html

#end of the big echo and the end the html head

# here below  is a simple samlple format of what the output will look like without the  package size and date

#<img src=compressed.png alt=[ ]> <a href=geany-0.17-i486-slxr.pet><font size="5" color="#FFFF00">geany-0.17-i486-slxr.pet</font></a>


# body of the  html code is generated by bash
# this was tricky to get the readable values
#in the format for package name  date and size
#to get everything read at once for each package 


for package in `find /root/asia_pets/*`; do
name=`basename "$package"`
datemodified=`ls -lh "$package" | awk '{ print $6 }'`
size=`ls -lh "$package" | awk '{ print $5 }'`


# edit this with care it was tedious to format it. Save a copy first 
echo "<img src="compressed.png" alt="[  ]">" "<"a href="$name"">""<"font size="5" color="#FFFF00"">"$name"<"/font">""<"/a">" "<"font size="5" color="#FFFFFF"">"  $datemodified "<"font size="5" color="#FFFF00"">"   $size >>/root/html-tagset.html       
done

# the last echo to end the index
echo '<hr></pre>

</body></html>'>>/root/html-tagset.html   

#I have a folder where I can test before I upload
#that contains all the images that will be used called  "puppy2-slaxer-index"
# I'll make it for you just in case
mkdir -p /root/puppy2-slaxer-index
cp /root/html-tagset.html  /root/puppy2-slaxer-index/index.php-new


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PostPosted: Fri 16 Oct 2009, 19:01    Post subject: Another small distro based on Slax  
Apologies to anyone who considers this off-topic, but this is where I would expect to find people interested. I confess that I have not read this entire thread. I did search for mention of slax.

Last week I was handed a CD for a mini-distro calling itself FortMacTux. This is relatively small, by most standards. It is based on the Slax fork of Slackware, which concentrates on smaller applications. It is surprisingly fast for a KDE-based system. At present, this is a live CD only. My contact wanted to know how to install it to hard drive. This looks like a project I will decline to tackle.

What struck me was the redundant effort involved in providing that mini-distribution with all the installation options Puppy has now, or providing KDE applications, which many people request, for Puppy variants. Slax may be closer to Puppy's design goals than Slackware itself.

Does anyone know this developer? He seems unusually competent. Is some commonality possible here?

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PostPosted: Fri 16 Oct 2009, 21:39    Post subject: Re: Another small distro based on Slax  
prehistoric wrote:
Apologies to anyone who considers this off-topic, but this is where I would expect to find people interested. I confess that I have not read this entire thread. I did search for mention of slax.
prehistoric


Hey prehistoric
I don't mind the question I hope this clears up some things

If your client/friend needs to install slax or a slax derivative
a quick google search "install slax" will pull up some informative info
it was meant to be used as a live cd but would allow more flexibility installed as a USB pendrive

the link you posted appears to be a slax derivative with a full KDE
so its even bigger than the official slax

slax is a live cd cut down version of slackware with a lite KDE
that focuses on mounting modules (squashfs SFS in puppy talk)

slaxer pup does not focus on SFS mounting as the default install method it uses packages
like slackware and was modified to use pkgtool slackwares official package management and at the moment has a puppy root filing system but not for long
so that all pet packages can be installed also so you get
more options


my advice if you want to go for a full install of a slax derivative . install slackware it will run much faster

I use that too Very Happy

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