What shall I work on first for the next CE release?

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#81 Post by **Pizzasgood** » Tue 13 Oct 2009, 19:01

Have it create a file like /etc/profile.d/proxy.sh, which would be a script that exports the variables. That way you don't need to touch /etc/profile at all. /etc/profile is already configured to automatically source anything in /etc/profile.d/ that has a .sh extension and is also executable.

In the standard Puppy (at least up to 4.2.1 as I haven't looked at 4.3 in detail yet) it will take effect immediately for anything run from a fresh terminal window, because Puppy has /root/.bashrc source /etc/profile every time it starts. You should be able to completely refresh the environment by exiting X and logging out. Puppy is by default configured to immediately log you back in, at which point /etc/profile will have been automatically resourced. Then you can start X and use the proxy settings.

aragon · #82 Post by **aragon** » Tue 13 Oct 2009, 19:27

@pg
thanks for the info. will try to test that tomorrow.
aragon

Jim1911 · #83 Post by **Jim1911** » Tue 13 Oct 2009, 19:29

technosaurus wrote:@Jim - I have been operating in pfix=ram mode for a while and recall that we used to have that option with ext2 and ext3 the last time I used a save file, so it should be a basic cut and paste job once I track down the script(s). I'll have a look tonight.

Piratesmack and gyro have been working on this, their efforts resulted in the latest fixes for frugal installations to be work properly on ext4 partitions. See http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 2&start=15

Thanks for addressing this issue,
Jim

01micko · #84 Post by **01micko** » Wed 14 Oct 2009, 04:59

Hi technosaurus

The other day when I compiled Seamonkey-2.0rc1 I had a configure error.. system libpng would not be accepted because there is no apng support.

So, can we update libpng?

Cheers

technosaurus · #85 Post by **technosaurus** » Wed 14 Oct 2009, 05:39

of course - I think ttuuxxx did that for 4.2
see ibiblio

I also figured out that we can simply move the nss and nspr libraries to /usr/lib (as a separate package) will save 2.5 Mb if you want FF vs. seamonkey also you can delete the ff/sm libsqlite3.so and make a symlink in /usr/lib/libsqlite3.so to the system sqlite (as long as we don't upgrade sqlite) ~300-500kb ... That's all I have so far, others may work this way too if compiled the same.

01micko · #86 Post by **01micko** » Wed 14 Oct 2009, 06:01

Thanks techno,

I know it is early days, but what other relevant libs do you intend to update for 4.4? That way I can make 2 versions with my next effort, one for 4.4 and one for legacy Puppies.

Cheers

technosaurus · #87 Post by **technosaurus** » Wed 14 Oct 2009, 06:36

sorry micko - that didn't have apng either... where to get it???

ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dist ... 34-dev.pet
ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dist ... 1.2.34.pet

I guess I should upgrade sqlite as well, since it is an allowed option in 2.X - system sqlite had started breaking 1.X

01micko · #88 Post by **01micko** » Wed 14 Oct 2009, 06:51

Hmmm... looks like libpng needs a patch for apng support... this link is fairly recent and from sourceforge http://libpng-apng.sourceforge.net/

I'll look into it over the next few days, will look to see if those linked pets are patched too.

Cheers

aragon · #89 Post by **aragon** » Wed 14 Oct 2009, 09:15

@micko
the libpng-1.2.34.pet from puppy-4-rep should be the apng-patched version from ttuuxxx compiled for 4.2.

aragon

technosaurus · #90 Post by **technosaurus** » Wed 14 Oct 2009, 13:44

See my prior post for the apng ttuuxxx patched version - micko you are too fast. I verified it this morning.

I suppose that apng is the replacement for mng since I no longer see a --with-system-mng???

aragon · #91 Post by **aragon** » Wed 14 Oct 2009, 15:23

@technosaurus
ok now i've made some progress with the proxy-setup, but not positive (in all parts).

pizzasgood hint work. i've setup a script in /etc/profile.d/ that gets it's values from a config file in /root/.config/pproxy.

i've added my settings.

positive: it works in dillo, wget, streamtuner and opera
negative: it does not work in seamonkey, firefox 3.5.0 (it should but it does not) and gftp

i've not tested more apps. but as seamonkey and firefox actually do not work in this way, it makes no sense to go further (for an official version). i will test a little more and will post my solution as a pet.

aragon

nubc · #92 Post by **nubc** » Wed 14 Oct 2009, 18:03

The final dialog in the Puppy Universal Installer asks whether to redo the grub config or finish. The button and dialog should be "YES, finished". This is what one would expect from any installation. But to close the Puppy installation dialogs, user must click "NO, finished". It doesnt make sense, and no wonder people are confused when grub config cycles through again.

I have a slow laptop. I havent figured out the settings to make the touchpad immediately responsive, and consequently there may be lag between click and action. I try to close a browser page by clicking the "X" in the upper right corner, nothing happens, so I instinctually click again. The page finally closes, but the second click applies to the lock icon which is so unfortunately located by default in the upper right corner of desktop. Why the heck is the desktop lock icon placed under the browser page sizing/closing functions?

#93 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 14 Oct 2009, 18:31

Hi Micko, that png pet package that techno post is already patched with apng, I had to patch png with apng (animated png) so that Firefox 3.0 alpha would compile.
ttuuxxx

01micko · #94 Post by **01micko** » Tue 27 Oct 2009, 22:59

Seamonkey-2.0 final is out.

I will be compiling 2 versions.

1) This will follow similar configure options to the previous beta 2 and rc1 that I compiled earlier. It will end up around 14MB including both themes but should be compatible with many puppy versions.

2). I will take a more radical approach. I will be compiling against the patched libpng with apng support as well as libnss and libnspr (system). I will be compiling those libs too and offering them as pets. libpng patched is available and linked on the previous page. (you won't need libpng patched in 4.2x)

Cheers

raffy · #95 Post by **raffy** » Wed 28 Oct 2009, 00:29

Am tagging this thread with "woofy" as Woof will be used to build the release, and "CE", making the tag "woofyCE".

This is meant to make it easier to find 4.4CE-related discussions.

technosaurus · #96 Post by **technosaurus** » Wed 28 Oct 2009, 16:51

Thanks micko
I noticed that 2.0 has a lot more --with-system-XXXX options
Besides png some others are too outdated as is. I compiled a recent sqlite3 that we will upgrade to (should be ~300-400kb difference) If any other things need to be upgraded to work with the mozilla build - just let me know.

Puppy Browser, gtkmozembed and Seamonkey 2.0 - are they compatible? I have not tested this yet. Requires removal of Seamonkey 1.X first to verify - just wanted to get this concern on the radar.

01micko · #97 Post by **01micko** » Wed 28 Oct 2009, 20:07

technosaurus wrote:T

Puppy Browser, gtkmozembed and Seamonkey 2.0 - are they compatible? I have not tested this yet. Requires removal of Seamonkey 1.X first to verify - just wanted to get this concern on the radar.

In a word, No. I suppose should check the deps of Puppy browser. I checked compat by renaming my SM-1.1.18 folder. It is actually something I checked when I first compiled beta2, should have mentioned it..

Jim1911 · #98 Post by **Jim1911** » Wed 28 Oct 2009, 21:03

technosaurus wrote: Looking at the remaster and the installer... both share a lot of the same functions, so perhaps they can be combined into one nice gui. I can't promise to make it as pretty as Zigbert's excellent work, but hopefully passable and at least functional. I try to have a single panel so that you don't have to try to figure out how to navigate the menus. My theory is if you can't fit it on a single page, it is too complex.

Please include an option to create a remaster from a directory as well as the CD.

Thanks,
Jim

technosaurus · #99 Post by **technosaurus** » Wed 28 Oct 2009, 21:30

with all of the new --with-system-XXX options in seamonkey2 we should be able to save enough space to use a minimal html viewer (dillo{1,2}, netsurf, etc.... I am partial to dillo2) with Seamonkey2. For Seamonkey1 or Firefox2 puppy browser. For Opera10 it has its own "kiosk" mode - or use the same as the viewer for SeaMonkey2... open to suggestions for the best matches.

I am really tempted to compile the recently released midori 0.2.0 (and webkit-gtk) I have heard a lot of good things about it lately.

Update on Progress:

Right now I am still trying to finish rebuilding dir2pet and petspecs into a single unified gtkdialog GUI for Pcompile. Gedrean has been instrumental in bringing it to the next level so hopefully this will allow everyone to test and submit their favorite apps with minimal effort on both sides.

I had rebuilt the remasterscript ~90% a while back and it already incorporates a lot of the requests. Unfortunately I used several Xdialogs at the time so it will require a minimal effort to make a basic gtkdialog using the same templates I put in the howto area and my recent awareness of "tooltips" a.k.a. mouseover dialogs (Thanks Patriot and Zigbert)

Does anyone have the patience to compile the entirety of xorg-7.5?? - it at least warrants a test run. If we have to roll back to 7.3 for a release for functionality then so be it.

Abiword 2.8 is out now and I have been compiling each of the development builds since 2.7.4 so I have it down fairly well (It takes almost forever btw) I should be able to start that compiling while I work on the frontends. The basic idea is to compile it with as many plugins "builtin" as possible. The others will be packages separately and probably individually - since Seamonkey2 can use system hunspell I will try to set abi up to use it vs the traditional aspell/myspell as in the past.
This version builds a lot smaller and no more need for libgnomeprint and libgnomeprintui so that will gain us some space too.

Gnumeric... not sure when the final release will be but that will be next on the list - will need to use Barry's latest GTK-2.18.3 (I had previously planned to use 2.16.X series for some of the same reasons he complained about but will go with 18 for better woof compatibility... and because he did the dual compile with gdk minimal debug that fixes the insert key bug)

01micko · #100 Post by **01micko** » Thu 29 Oct 2009, 02:09

Hmmm,

There is a vala browser written by gege2061 http://code.valaide.org/content/webkit-sample ... dependant on webkit... I haven't tried it yet but it is likely to be small. And another here http://aruiz.typepad.com/siliconisland/ ... -vala-.htm

Cheers

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