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Clean shutdown for full installs
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mikeb


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PostPosted: Fri 28 Aug 2009, 17:40    Post subject:  Clean shutdown for full installs  
Want a clean shutdown with a full install and not getting it?

try adding this line just before the last umount in /etc/rc.d/rc.shutdown:

Code:
killall `fuser -v -m / 2>&1 | grep F | grep -v rc.shutdown | grep -v reboot | grep -v grep | grep -v poweroff | awk '{print $4}'`


all one line. Tested with puppy 2.12 and 4.12.
Probably could be incorporated with the frugal cleanup section (which is next on my agenda..a few dirty bibs there too)

Using ext3 masks unclean shutdowns as it cleans up when it is mounted but another distro running fsck will show the dirty flag and IFS on windows won't mount because of it.

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PostPosted: Fri 28 Aug 2009, 22:09    Post subject:  
4.3 beta 1 multisession DVD is not shutting off the power after saving. Do you think this would fix that?
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PostPosted: Sat 29 Aug 2009, 06:03    Post subject:  
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4.3 beta 1 multisession DVD is not shutting off the power after saving. Do you think this would fix that?

no sounds like an acpi problem...may try acpi=force boot parameter...the cut of date may have been changed....

This simply tries to make sure partitions are unmounted/remounted read only before poweroff...if they are not it would poweroff regardless.

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PostPosted: Sat 29 Aug 2009, 09:55    Post subject:  
OK, thanks.
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gyro

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PostPosted: Mon 05 Oct 2009, 23:26    Post subject: Re: Clean shutdown for full installs  
mikeb wrote:
Probably could be incorporated with the frugal cleanup section (which is next on my agenda..a few dirty bibs there too)

Mikeb,

I'm really looking forward to your fix to rc.shutdown so that frugal installs do a clean shutdown.

I've tried adding your code to my rc.shutdown (puppy 4.1.2 frugal) but I still get pup_save.3fs not cleanly umounted.

I've also tried to fix rc.shutdown myself, but with no sucess.

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PostPosted: Tue 06 Oct 2009, 08:25    Post subject:  
There is a section that checks it is frugal and that is where processes should be killed. Also there is the mounting of the pup_save and mounting of where the pup_save is so a mount within a mount to deal with.

Someone recently was changing the boot parameter to pmedia=usbflash to make a hard drive frugal install behave as a usb flash stick and that seemed to help...might be worth experimenting with.(with backups made of course Smile )

Been a bit busy recently but with dive into this soon.

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gyro

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PostPosted: Tue 06 Oct 2009, 11:01    Post subject:  
mikeb wrote:
Someone recently was changing the boot parameter to pmedia=usbflash to make a hard drive frugal install behave as a usb flash stick and that seemed to help...might be worth experimenting with.(with backups made of course Smile )
Yes, that is me.
Seems to work too (in Puppy 4.3.0), just a little slower shutting down.

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PostPosted: Tue 06 Oct 2009, 12:22    Post subject:  
Ah ha...I tried to find the thread.
Does doing that actually give a clean shutdown?.....i lose track on this forum sometimes Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue 06 Oct 2009, 13:20    Post subject:  
gyro wrote:
mikeb wrote:
Someone recently was changing the boot parameter to pmedia=usbflash to make a hard drive frugal install behave as a usb flash stick and that seemed to help...might be worth experimenting with.(with backups made of course Smile )
Yes, that is me.
Seems to work too (in Puppy 4.3.0), just a little slower shutting down.

gyro

tried to use pmedia=usbflash on my SSD frugal install of 430. failed to boot . sfs not found.
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PostPosted: Tue 06 Oct 2009, 13:23    Post subject:  
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tried to use pmedia=usbflash on my SSD frugal install of 430. failed to boot . sfs not found.


hmm perhaps it's a bit of a fluke that this works for gyro.
What is really needed is forcing of pupmode to 13

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PostPosted: Wed 07 Oct 2009, 05:41    Post subject:  
define clean shutdown Embarassed
im on dingo 4.0 full install...i shutdown...it sigterm kills all blah blah..then "requesting system power off" Power down..i hear the hd kick off...but pc dont shut off...i hold power button..solved... so this would prevent me from usen meh big toe on the power button? Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Oct 2009, 09:29    Post subject:  
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define clean shutdown

that sounds like you need 'acpi=force' as a boot parameter to save yer big toe.

This is about when puppy shuts down it does not unmount drives properly so leaves the dirty flag set so on a restart the file system has to be checked/cleaned up....it's doesn't usually mean any corruption but can be inconvenient.

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PostPosted: Wed 07 Oct 2009, 10:24    Post subject:  
mikeb wrote:
hmm perhaps it's a bit of a fluke that this works for gyro.

Sorry I didn't read your post closely enough.
Code:
pmedia=ataflash
is what works for me, in a frugal install using files from pup-430.iso.

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PostPosted: Wed 07 Oct 2009, 11:45    Post subject:  
gyro wrote:
mikeb wrote:
hmm perhaps it's a bit of a fluke that this works for gyro.

Sorry I didn't read your post closely enough.
Code:
pmedia=ataflash
is what works for me, in a frugal install using files from pup-430.iso.

gyro

pmedia=ataflash put into menu.lst.
boots.
will monitor it for any improvement in shutdown.
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Oct 2009, 14:24    Post subject:  
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pmedia=ataflash


ahhhhhhhhhhh Embarassed my bad...that makes sense Very Happy ...meant for cf flash drives I presume.

I will give this a tryout too....been a busy bunny recently.
I find this mode interesting as working files are still in ram so should provide for a speedup and it also means temporary files created during a session are not needlessly saved....the only proviso is a decent amount of ram though in my head this method effectively increases virtual filespace...ie pup_save + tmpfs.

regards

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