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technosaurus

Joined: 18 May 2008 Posts: 3843
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Posted: Sun 27 Sep 2009, 00:50 Post subject:
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RE: autocopy pup....sfs - would it be better to have the install script specify the locations of pupXXX.sfs, zdrv, other sfs files as a boot parameter when it writes the grub menu.lst?
These would be parameters you could change at boot as well.
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ttuuxxx

Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 10720 Location: Ontario Canada,Sydney Australia
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Posted: Sun 27 Sep 2009, 01:29 Post subject:
Re: Besides the Aforementioned Crashing Browsers & Copying RedLi |
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| Max Headroom wrote: | RedLining Blinky Monitor Applet, I was wunderin' when Dingo 4.3, was going on a Diet, Specifically Rationalizing Surplus X Media Players & Rippers, Txt Editors, implementing ttuuxxxs Cut Down Calculator, also I Vaguely Recall Barry K Suggesting a Lighter Weight GParted GUI... It'd be Great the Bug Fixed iso could be Finalized @ 99.5 Mb including All intel Modem Drivers. Thanx Barry & Co.  |
Hi max, if all those changes were made it wouls save around 1MB compressed, the large iso has 29MB of drivers compressed. I don't think a 99.5 MB full driver release would be possible.
What it should do is run the wizards and only copy the drivers needed , kind of like printing does. Then it wouldn't matter on the size of iso, where it could always retrieve the extra drivers when/if need-be from cd
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Iguleder

Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 1614 Location: Israel, somewhere in the beautiful desert
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Posted: Sun 27 Sep 2009, 03:52 Post subject:
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Anoter bug: the mouse wizard says that my PS/2 mouse is USB.
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jeros

Joined: 26 Sep 2009 Posts: 1 Location: Cilacap, Indonesia
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Posted: Sun 27 Sep 2009, 05:12 Post subject:
cannot enter X |
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i try install Puppy430 with frugal on ext2 partition as usual, edit Grub menu.lst and boot my machine, end up with console, when i type "xwin" it back to previous stage. XorgWizard result okay, detect the dispaly well.
My machine okay with older Puppy like 421, 412, and 411.
Any suggestion?
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r__hughes
Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 335 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun 27 Sep 2009, 13:28 Post subject:
[SOLVED] Pup430 DVD drive mounting & autoplay Subject description: datadisk tries to autoplay |
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Running Pup430 from a bootable USB flashdrive
On a Dell Latitude D610 Laptop with combo CD/DVD read/writer a data DVD opens up gxine & tries to autoplay - I have to mount it by a right-click/Run-Pmount) . Plays normal DVDs beautifully
DVD drive is a TSSTcorp CDRWDVD (Seagate) Rev-DE09 accessed as sr0
On a Dell Dimension 2400 PC with combo CD/DVD read/writer just the opposite - opens all DVDs as data disks - I need 'goggles' dvd player to play a normal DVD.
DVD drive is NEC DVD+RW ND-2100AD Rev-103D accessed as sr1 (there is another CD-RW accessed as sr0)
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edited 04oct2009
The inconsistency has been resolved - when the Dimension 2400 PC's NEC DVD/CD-RW and the other CD-RW were switched to master & slave respectively - the DVD was defined as sr0 and the /dev/dvd link was pointed at sr0. Now the PC plays DVDs via gxine by left-clicking the sr0 icon, and like the Laptop, needs a right-click/pmount to read a data DVDs. This I can live with
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cichlasoma
Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Posts: 69
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Posted: Sun 27 Sep 2009, 14:56 Post subject:
Re: Missing programs and internet connection |
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| clarf wrote: |
Hope you could fix your problem cichlasoma, I'm sure you have to copy zp430305.sfs to HD. |
I do believe you. I apologize for not trying the solution yet, but normally I don't boot from CD (I've experimented mainly with Flash disk and hard drive frugal installations) and even more importantly - I managed to connect wifi in 4.21 via Windows driver wrapper on my Asus EEE PC, so I use 4.21, at least as my "main Puppy").
I'll try later and report just for "scholastic" purposes.
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WN2A

Joined: 02 Jun 2007 Posts: 44 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun 27 Sep 2009, 16:26 Post subject:
Weird CD Boot/ pupsave Problem |
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Weird pupsave on USB problem:
Hello All:
Firstly, the new apps and everything looks great to me on Puppy 430 and ttuuxx's 4.3.1.
I am trying to use pup-430.iso (and its varients), booting off the CD and using
a pupsave.2fs file on a 16G USB Patriot XT Flash Drive. (Formatted fat32)
But what is weird is that unlike 4.1.2 k2.6.25.16 (which works universally great
with all my systems), 430,etc doesn't find the pupsave.2fs on the older ones
(but does work with the newer one for some reason).
Older: Dell XPS R400 (400MHz P2, 384Meg RAM; USB 1.1 ?)
Sony Vaio PCG-932A 600MHz P3 700MHz 125M RAM USB 1.1
(Does not work on above systems)
New: HP PC P4 2.8GHz 775M RAM USB 2.0
(Works OK, finds pupsave.2fs)
Thus far same results for all: (pupsave only works on new)
pup-430.iso
pup-430-small.iso
pup-430-k2.6.25.16.iso
and:
puppies-431.1-main-Xserver.iso
But all machines (new or old) work with puppy 4.1.2 k2.6.25.16!
Any Ideas?
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Koshpeli
Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Posts: 11
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Posted: Sun 27 Sep 2009, 23:32 Post subject:
Won't shut down Subject description: Puppy 4.3 on Compaq Presario R4000 doesn't run shutdown script |
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Had 4.2.1 on my Compaq Presario R4000 booting off the Live CD. When I downloaded 4.3, I changed my pupsave file as instructed. Booted 4.3 off the D: drive. Everything loaded up fine. But when I hit the shutdown option in the Menu, it did nothing. Same problem with the shutdown option on the top tool tray. Only way to power down was to hold the power button key on the computer, which just killed power, didn't start the script i.e. didn't save my settings.
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DaveS

Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Posts: 3669 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon 28 Sep 2009, 01:51 Post subject:
Re: Won't shut down Subject description: Puppy 4.3 on Compaq Presario R4000 doesn't run shutdown script |
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| Koshpeli wrote: | | Had 4.2.1 on my Compaq Presario R4000 booting off the Live CD. When I downloaded 4.3, I changed my pupsave file as instructed. Booted 4.3 off the D: drive. Everything loaded up fine. But when I hit the shutdown option in the Menu, it did nothing. Same problem with the shutdown option on the top tool tray. Only way to power down was to hold the power button key on the computer, which just killed power, didn't start the script i.e. didn't save my settings. |
The problem here is the shutdown script that came with your old pupsave file. All you need to do is copy the two files 'wmpoweroff' and 'wmreboot' from /usr/bin to /usr/X11R7/bin. Copy them, dont move them.
If you ever find you cannot shutdown via the menu, just open a terminal window, type wmpoweroff and hit the enter key.
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gray

Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Posts: 313 Location: Adelaide - South Australia
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Posted: Mon 28 Sep 2009, 04:03 Post subject:
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somethin funny with depmod.
When trying to activate the virtualbox drivers in puppy 4.3 the depmod command did not work. I had to use depmod-FULL.
Begs the question - what other drivers are not being activated by depmod ?
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cichlasoma
Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Posts: 69
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Posted: Mon 28 Sep 2009, 06:33 Post subject:
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I booted 4.3 from USB FD KingstoneDataTraveller 20. Later I plugged in an USB FD Kingstone DT 101 II (both 8 GB). Puppy was not able to mount both and when I drew the second one out, it gave me no access anymore to the first one (it booted from).
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Koshpeli
Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Posts: 11
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Posted: Mon 28 Sep 2009, 11:42 Post subject:
Re: Won't shut down Subject description: Puppy 4.3 on Compaq Presario R4000 doesn't run shutdown script |
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| DaveS wrote: | | Koshpeli wrote: | | Had 4.2.1 on my Compaq Presario R4000 booting off the Live CD. When I downloaded 4.3, I changed my pupsave file as instructed. Booted 4.3 off the D: drive. Everything loaded up fine. But when I hit the shutdown option in the Menu, it did nothing. Same problem with the shutdown option on the top tool tray. Only way to power down was to hold the power button key on the computer, which just killed power, didn't start the script i.e. didn't save my settings. |
The problem here is the shutdown script that came with your old pupsave file. All you need to do is copy the two files 'wmpoweroff' and 'wmreboot' from /usr/bin to /usr/X11R7/bin. Copy them, dont move them.
If you ever find you cannot shutdown via the menu, just open a terminal window, type wmpoweroff and hit the enter key. |
Cool thanks. Missed that notice and the command for shutting off somehow.
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dogone

Joined: 21 Apr 2008 Posts: 202 Location: Arizona, USA
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Posted: Mon 28 Sep 2009, 13:11 Post subject:
430 Xorg/X related instability Subject description: X stops responding after sufficient/extended window manipulation. |
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I'm observing a particular and fatal instability in 430, both 2.6.31.5 "small" (am presently testing main) and 2.6.25.16. The problem seems related to Xorg and window manipulation over time in a given session. It tends not to occur during sessions in which there's little or no window creation, destruction, manipulation, etc. I otherwise see no correlation to system loading or memory use.
Eventually, during a busy X session, X stops responding. Mouse clicks are ignored and menus do not appear. One can still switch to another terminal (CTRL-ALT-Fx) or exit Xorg (CTR-ALT-Backspace). Back at the prompt, Puppy appears alive and well. TOP reports no unusual loading and FREE reports nominal memory use. Attempts to restart X result in a black screen and the X-windows "X" cursor. CTRL-ALT-Backspace returns one to the prompt. Xorgwizard will still run normally but fails to start X. At that point one has no option but to "reboot".
I have observed this problem with 430 on two desktop machines - one 1999 Intel-based with 512MB and one 2004 AMD-based with 2GB. I do not experience the problem under 425, earlier betas nor under any earlier Puppy or derivative. It appears new and unique to 430 final and it's "specials" (though I have not tested the 2.6.21.x release).
UPDATE: In the event of the forced reboot described above, Puppy displays the expected "Saving changes..." message upon leaving X, However it often stops there and fails to execute the reboot. Changes are correctly saved but the system must be hard reset.
If you have experienced any such problem under 430 or earlier, please post the details. Thanks.
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aarf
Joined: 30 Aug 2007 Posts: 3620 Location: around the bend
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Posted: Mon 28 Sep 2009, 21:46 Post subject:
Re: aarf: that's standard behavior and not a bug. |
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| dio444 wrote: | That's standard behavior for cut-paste from a terminal in X. But there's one thing you didn't know. The middle mouse button can be simulated on a 2-button pointing device with a "chord click" of both buttons at once.
Tom |
thanks Tom, i can now copy by first highlighting the text in rxvt and then using two fingers pushing both ends of the touchpad click bar simultaneously to paste.
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lwill

Joined: 13 Jun 2008 Posts: 168 Location: City Of Lights
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Posted: Tue 29 Sep 2009, 04:24 Post subject:
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I had reported a sound problem back on page one with a Gateway laptop, I found a solution.
The solution is in Forum index » Advanced Topics » Hardware » Audio No Sound on Gateway Laptop
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=45213
Sound worked in Small iso but not full.
Seems to be some conflicting intel modem / sound modules.
Lyle
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