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Printing

#1841 Post by Minnesota »

BOOOOOO No go on printing,,,,in fact strange.... :cry:

Click printer set up from setup menu or right click set up... first screen is "Usage for x dialog"... looks more like code than anything... asks to print or ok... choose OK... went though the half dozen screens... set up MYprinter... canon... not true... as printer is Brother, but that is what cups says it is ... anyway... open abiword... print to default printer... even insured from Cups that My printer was default.... nothing... simply nothing....

I might note as well... works fine in 4.31.1.... and most other versions. Went to Hardware/Printer-System Information... .NO PRINTER FOUND... I am using a parallel Brother printer.. normally detected...

:cry:

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zd1211 reminder

#1842 Post by Minnesota »

Reminder... if you use this today's printer test version for production... it contains the older zd1211 wireless driver and not ther zd1211rw. Thanks.

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#1843 Post by ttuuxxx »

Hi Guys this is how I set up printing with the new Cups Gui :)
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#1844 Post by sinc »

thats a perfect description of how to use it but i think the issue is getting there. Minnesota do not go to setup-printer wizard, you have to go to system-cups.

ttuuxxx it is very confusing that the "setup-printer wizard" does not link to cups.

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Half a thumbs up

#1845 Post by Minnesota »

Half.. well I will give you three quarters of a thumbs up... Printer now works.... ONLY IF YOU SET IT AS DEFAULT!

If you follow the directions... it does set up my parallel printer and will print test page and data from abiword. BUT only after going to print set up to set it as default... as the specifically named printer does not show as a printer option when print selected in abiword.

Left Print Manager on the screen to perform test... go back to desktop....and outline-box of Print Manager is displayed... NO information inside of the box????

Changed printer to default... OLD jobs not printing.... will try new print job from abiword...after default is set. ONLY new job printed.. old jobs gone to bit bucket.

Gnumeric prints... assume same as above, since it is using Default... named printer not showing.

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printing

#1846 Post by davesurrey »

EDIT:
Completely re-edited to make it clearer (hopefully).

Okay so now that I know that Setup>Printer Wizard is to be avoided and to use System>CUPS manage printing instead. Very counter-intuitive. I managed to go through ttuxxx's directions....thanks but still couldn't get my 2 printers to work so went to pup431.1

In Pup431.1 I couldn't find a pre-installed driver for my Samsung ML2010R laser so searched and found one and put in /usr/share/cups/model. Installed and set as default. It worked ie appeared in Abiword>File>Print and printed ok.

Then tried with my HP OfficeJet 6210. No driver for it so found hpliplite-3.9.8-mu-p4.pet and hpijs-2.8.2_static-1.pet. Wasn't sure which to use so installed the latter. Then used cups and it installed and printed ok, appearing as an option in Abiword>File>Print.

Now tried in 214X9.1

Samsung ML2010R: used driver as above and printed okay.

HP couldn't find a hppijs.pet in pet-get so haven't got it working.

But...

Note that in Abiword>File>Print the printers are identified in 431.1 but not in 214X9.1

I have also noticed that in 214X9.1 when I do a "System>CUPS manage printing>Click to install new Printer" the "Puppy Linux Printer Manager" window stays up (as blank) when the web-like CUPs screen starts. Once everything is set up the "Printer Linux Printer Manager screen stays up and sometimes needs killing. This doesn't happen in 431.1 Is a process not completing? Is this the reason the printers are not seen in abiword correctly?

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#1847 Post by ttuuxxx »

ok I figured out what wasn't working :) It was a few drivers I had to compile and test and now look below on the options on abiword, using my directions I posted earlier, Just install the package and then reinstall your printer. Thanks
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#1848 Post by davesurrey »

ttuuxxx,
Installed your pet and it works great now. Congratulations and thanks. :-)

Specifically, both printers now work, they appear in Abiword>File>Print and the Puppy Linux Printer Manager instability seems to have gone.

So now I tried the (even) harder bit and tried to get my test PC which is connected to the printers over the network to work. And it did without any intervention at all. Great.

I did have to install the HP drivers (see previous post) which was a bit surprising as I thought my HP Officejet was quite common and there is a trivial issue where each printer selection appears many time ( see attached) but fundamentally it's working fine.

I have a suggestion however.
The Puppy Linux Printer Manager says:
Once your finished installing the printer..... delete ..extra drivers..
If I understand this correctly then I think a novice might do this and not realise they are deleting drivers which they may need in the future. This isn't what happens with the network drivers for example.

And by the way it should be "Once you're finished..."

Cheers and thanks once again.
Dave

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#1849 Post by ttuuxxx »

davesurrey wrote:ttuuxxx,

If I understand this correctly then I think a novice might do this and not realise they are deleting drivers which they may need in the future. This isn't what happens with the network drivers for example.

And by the way it should be "Once you're finished..."

Cheers and thanks once again.
Dave
Naaa its ok to delete them once the driver is installed, Gutenprint has them compressed and when you start the install wizard, it decompress all the drivers into a folder, really that folder should be /tmp but its not built that way. Anyways once the driver is selected its copied to another location, then you have 19MB extra drivers sitting around and they all will be recreated once again when you run the new printer setup. SO deleting anytime after the printer is installed won't harm a thing :)
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90% pet fix

#1850 Post by Minnesota »

:) 90% pet fix... printer now shows in abiword and gnumeric, printer prints.

:( part: As long as cups set up, is still active the Puppy Linux Printer Manager remains a blank box.

2) As per earlier versions of x9... if you put a single letter in the first A column of the spread sheet.. such as
a
a
b
b
b
THIS WILL NOT print.. as the left margin is not defaulted correctly. TTUUXXX you fixed this in a later version... you can see it happening if you select print preview.

And I have to remind you about ZD1211rw for the next version.

Trust the cold is a history issue? Keep well... get some rest... :)

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#1851 Post by davesurrey »

ttuuxxx,
Ok. Well I did say
If I understand this correctly
:-)
But in that case perhaps the wording should clarify that. I may not be the only person not to understand it??

Minnesota:
I get the same blank box also but at least printing is working now.

Dave

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Re: 90% pet fix

#1852 Post by ttuuxxx »

Minnesota wrote::) 90% pet fix... printer now shows in abiword and gnumeric, printer prints.

:( part: As long as cups set up, is still active the Puppy Linux Printer Manager remains a blank box. (I'll Look into that, strange it works fine on 4.31 and not 2.14X, Its 100% the same script. )

2) As per earlier versions of x9... if you put a single letter in the first A column of the spread sheet.. such as
a
a
b
b
b
THIS WILL NOT print.. as the left margin is not defaulted correctly. TTUUXXX you fixed this in a later version... you can see it happening if you select print preview. (2.14x-v9.1 is only 2.14x-v9 plus printing upgrade, the other fixes seen in higher releases will come Soon :)

And I have to remind you about ZD1211rw for the next version. (Thanks for reminding me, :)

Trust the cold is a history issue? Keep well... get some rest... :) Not yet, really chesty, That's why I haven't been on here much :?
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
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#1853 Post by ttuuxxx »

Hi Guys found something today I didn't think I would, lol and nooooo its not my brain, lol
Anyways a complete replacement for Galculator and then some :)
This calculator should be about 4 times the size, its suppose to use a lot of needed Gnome files, but I messed around with the sources and managed to get it working without any extra deps, which is excellent, keeps the size really small, well a bit bigger than Galculator but not much.
I have it set as a basic calculator, but then click the view button.
-basic
-advanced
-Financial
-scientific
-Programming
enjoy :)
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#1854 Post by James C »

Just installed calculator pet in 214 X 11.......... it works fine. :)

Great job as usual......thanks.

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#1855 Post by sinc »

i'm probably the only person on here that could use it but any chance of a graphing calculator? i think there's a ti-83 or ti-84 program. if not, whatever, but i would use it. Image

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#1856 Post by clarf »

Nice one ttuuxxx,

It could be the final solution for the question. How to throw out 3 (or more) unnecessary calculators choices in all Puppy series?. (And get more space at same time).

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#1857 Post by ttuuxxx »

sinc wrote:i'm probably the only person on here that could use it but any chance of a graphing calculator? i think there's a ti-83 or ti-84 program. if not, whatever, but i would use it. Image
LOL I went to this site and it said "Free Online Calculator" lol they said it was free, lol. it was flash based, so downloaded and made a menu item etc, Well I can't put it into this release since Its not gpl, but you can try it if you like, lol
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Keyboard Layout

#1858 Post by MinHundHettePerro »

Greetings!

After an unusually hard week, workwise, I finally had some time so look into the keyboard setter issue.

I made some patch & stitch work, so as to utilise the working parts and hide the non-working parts :roll:.

Since I found that button 2 in the keyb. setter worked in xvesa (after a restartwm command) I replaced the non-working button 1, and button 2 with one that chooses the script from former button 2 or button 3, depending on if xorg or xvesa is running. If xorg is running, the chosen keymap code is also written to /etc/keymap, so it will be reported on the boot-screen.

Also, before, I had to (using xorg) apply the changes an extra time before it was activated - Now fixed.

I've tested with the attached files squashed into pup_214R.sfs, and it seems to work.

N.b. If changing between xorg and xvesa the keyboard layout might have to be set again (list of layouts in xorg is much longer than in xvesa, also gb-uk discrepancy).

Hopefully, a few rough edges off of 214X :). ...maybe...

Try it out :)/
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[color=green]Celeron 2.8 GHz, 1 GB, i82845, many ptns, modes 12, 13
Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz, 1 GB, nvidia quadro nvs 285[/color]
Slackos & 214X, ... and Q6xx
[color=darkred]Nämen, vaf....[/color] [color=green]ln -s /dev/null MHHP[/color]

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#1859 Post by MinHundHettePerro »

sinc wrote:i'm probably the only person on here that could use it but any chance of a graphing calculator? i think there's a ti-83 or ti-84 program. if not, whatever, but i would use it. Image
Now, I see your avatar. Is it, by any chance, a lin-lin-log-scale representation of sinc(r) :?:

/MHHP
[color=green]Celeron 2.8 GHz, 1 GB, i82845, many ptns, modes 12, 13
Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz, 1 GB, nvidia quadro nvs 285[/color]
Slackos & 214X, ... and Q6xx
[color=darkred]Nämen, vaf....[/color] [color=green]ln -s /dev/null MHHP[/color]

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#1860 Post by davesurrey »

sinc wrote
i'm probably the only person on here that could use it
Well it's a long while since I studied maths at University but I think I might still have a few uses for such a thing, mr sinx/x . :-)
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