[Testing] Seamonkey Beta2

[ecomoney]

Download

http://www.ecomoney.eu/puppy/pets/inter ... -Beta2.pet

This is a handy (14.3 MB) SeaMonkey 2-beta package that I needed to compile for someone who couldn't get their facebook notifications/chat/status updates working with the standard 1.x SeaMonkeys. It is compiled from the standard package, plus has the libdbus libraries needed (I think these are only required for puppy 4.3?)..

When it is installed, a rox-filer window opens which allows you to make a desktop shortcut.

Enjoy

[Flash]

I've got to try this. SeaMonkey in Puppy 4.3 final still closes sometimes, apparently when Flash gets overloaded. Anyway, does this .pet replace the existing SeaMonkey files in 4.3, or is it a completely separate addition to Puppy?

[ecomoney]

Its a completely separate installation of the program, although it picks up your existing bookmarks and settings from /root/.mozilla (I believe). Seamonkey Beta2 installs into /usr/local rather than /usr/lib like the built in Seamonkey 1.8. The package creates a desktop icon (and a menu entry) to launch seamonkey 2 beta.

The Flashplayer does to me seem a lot smoother in puppy 4.3, I have no idea why. This package does not include a new flashplayer, it uses the version already installed. I cant say Ive tested it for long enough to know about crashes, but any feedback would be welcome.

[01micko]

Hello ecomoney.

Is this the standard Seamonkey beta2 offered by the Seamonkey website? If it is, then I have it and it is very fast and seems very stable. IMHO it is every bit as good if not better than Firefox 3.5.x.

A side note. Seamonkey should be able to be compiled without the need for the dbus dependencies. I may put it on my 'to do' list. Compiling anything from mozilla source can be a daunting task!

Cheers

[disciple]

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compiled from the standard package

Compiled? Or put together from the standard package?

[esmourguit]

Bonjour à tous,
From SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker and also
SeaMonkey 2 Beta 1 will use the same rendering engine as Firefox 3.5.1, Gecko 1.9.1.1, including the recent security fixes and overall improvements, and the same MailNews backend as Thunderbird Beta 3 which will be released in parallel.
Cordialement

[ecomoney]

Compiling anything is a daunting task for me! I simply downloaded the "static"(?) package of SM 2.0 beta 2 from their website (the same as yours Micko) and made a pet with dir2pet after putting in the dependencies and adding a little script in pinstall to allow the user to create a desktop shortcut. Thanks for the background on the gecko engine...etc.

Humans are my thing

[01micko]

Fair enough Rob.

Just, (perhaps ) you should distinguish between 'compile' and 'package' ( which is what you have done ). Just for some of us who aren't newbies. .

Cheers

[ttuuxxx]

Yes if it was compiled it would be around 10MB the full suite and wouldn't be using dbus.
also Micko Seamonkey is no joy to compile, it takes at least 3hrs, you need alot of space around 1GB, Usually you need to patch it first and then most the time the actual gui doesn't compile into the package and you have to manually find the parts and move them into order. But if you feel like giving it a shot goodluck. On a compiling difficulty scale I would give it a 8 out of 10, as a kernel would be 10/10 and a simple /configure/make program a 1/10.
ttuuxxx

[DaveS]

very fast and seems very stable. IMHO it is every bit as good if not better than Firefox 3.5.x.

Damn ugly though. Gimme a Ttuuxxx Firefox any day

[01micko]

Damn ugly though. Gimme a Ttuuxxx Firefox any day

Hehe, maybe so, but the new Seamonkey-2 does have a nicer theme and I quite like the modern theme. As a matter of fact, on my old lappy which I gave to my daughter, I used a Seamonkey look theme on Firefox.

Yes if it was compiled it would be around 10MB the full suite and wouldn't be using dbus.
also Micko Seamonkey is no joy to compile, it takes at least 3hrs, you need alot of space around 1GB, Usually you need to patch it first and then most the time the actual gui doesn't compile into the package and you have to manually find the parts and move them into order. But if you feel like giving it a shot goodluck. On a compiling difficulty scale I would give it a 8 out of 10, as a kernel would be 10/10 and a simple /configure/make program a 1/10.

I did manage to compile Firefox-3.5.2 during 4.3 beta testing and it worked fine. I'll download the source tomorrow and have a shot at Seamonkey 2. Have you compiled it yet ttuuxxx? I bet there's a whole bunch of new configure options compared to Seamonkey 1.x.

Ecomoney, If my compile is successful, do you want to host it? Should end up a bit smaller .

Cheers

[01micko]

I did it!

Successful compile of Seamonkey-2 beta 2.

Yeah took over 3 hours but that included mistakes (er.... seven of them!). Just have to figure out how to package it!

Here's the configure options that worked for me in 4.3

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./configure --build=i486 --with-x --with-system-jpeg=/usr/lib --with-system-png=/usr/lib --enable-application=suite --disable-gnomevfs --disable-gnomeui --disable-dbus --disable-accessibility --disable-installer --disable-updater --disable-parental-controls --disable-vista-sdk-requirements --enable-strip --enable-install-strip --with-libIDL-prefix=/usr/include/libIDL-2.0 --disable-glibtest --with-glib-prefix=/usr/include/glib-2.0 --enable-system-cairo

Cheers

[panzerpuppy]

Woo-hoo! The horrible Flash performance is (finally) fixed in SM 2.0b2 !

Results from my YouTube video benchmark:
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* SeaMonkey 2.0 beta 1 = 64% ~ 80% CPU usage
* Opera 10.10 = 48% ~ 51% CPU
* SeaMonkey 1.1.18 = 37% ~ 42% CPU
* SeaMonkey 2.0 beta 2 = 37% ~ 42% CPU

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panzerpuppy

[ttuuxxx]

Hey micko good to here I haven't tried compiling Seamonkey 2 yet, Usually we configure it with a bit more Here's how Barry has compiled it in the past,
--localstatedir=/var --prefix=/usr --host=i486-t2-linux-gnu --with-x --with-pthreads --with-system-jpeg --with-system-zlib --with-system-png --enable-default-toolkit=gtk2 --enable-xft --enable-postscript --disable-xprint --disable-gnomevfs --disable-gnomeui --enable-crypto --enable-plugins --disable-logging --enable-strip --enable-necko-protocols=all --disable-debug --enable-mathml --enable-composer --disable-freetype2 --enable-cookies --enable-extensions=cookie,transformiix,wallet,xmlextras,pref,spellcheck,universalchardet,permissions,sroaming,editor/cascades,typeaheadfind --enable-mailnews --disable-calendar --enable-application=suite --disable-ldap --enable-pango --enable-chrome-format=jar --with-distribution-id=com.puppylinux --enable-xinerama --enable-svg --enable-svg-renderer=cairo --enable-system-cairo --disable-calendar --enable-accessibility

anyways did you make a package for testing ?
ttuuxxx

[01micko]

Hey micko good to here I haven't tried compiling Seamonkey 2 yet, Usually we configure it with a bit more Here's how Barry has compiled it in the past,
--localstatedir=/var --prefix=/usr --host=i486-t2-linux-gnu --with-x --with-pthreads --with-system-jpeg --with-system-zlib --with-system-png --enable-default-toolkit=gtk2 --enable-xft --enable-postscript --disable-xprint --disable-gnomevfs --disable-gnomeui --enable-crypto --enable-plugins --disable-logging --enable-strip --enable-necko-protocols=all --disable-debug --enable-mathml --enable-composer --disable-freetype2 --enable-cookies --enable-extensions=cookie,transformiix,wallet,xmlextras,pref,spellcheck,universalchardet,permissions,sroaming,editor/cascades,typeaheadfind --enable-mailnews --disable-calendar --enable-application=suite --disable-ldap --enable-pango --enable-chrome-format=jar --with-distribution-id=com.puppylinux --enable-xinerama --enable-svg --enable-svg-renderer=cairo --enable-system-cairo --disable-calendar --enable-accessibility

anyways did you make a package for testing ?
ttuuxxx

Without having a clue I got plenty of those right! I'll package it tomorrow... atm I'm Wallaby Ted's brother... Roo Ted!

Cheers

(BTW using it now )

[01micko]

I packaged up my compile of Seamonkey-2b2 and it ended up a 13.9M pet. Probably could have taken some stuff out, but it has the default and the modern themes. I uploaded to the petstore but gposil doesn't come back online until tomorrow so I'll post a link then. May even get one of those free file hosting accounts.

Cheers.

[ttuuxxx]

hey micko you sure you don't want to try it again with the config I posted, The pet package should be around 11MB, That was the size Barry compiled seamonkey 2.0- alpha prerelease, almost 3MB smaller, also look and see if there's another theme, sometimes they give 2 of them, that is a quick way to reduce the size.
ttuuxxx

[01micko]

Yeah ttuuxxx, I'll have another go next weekend but I think you are on the money with the extra theme because I left the 'modern' theme in there. It is 4M uncompressed, and alot of that is images which are already compressed so I reckon I could save 2.5 meg compressed anyway.

I started a thread, we are kinda hijacking ecomoney's thread..

Cheers

[ecomoney]

Feel free to hijack, Im glad its producing such improvements.

That benchmark was particularly enlightening panzerpuppy, flash is a massive bugbear to Linux systems, as is facebook, so Im glad its alleviating these problems.

Micko, I would be happy to host your compiled package.

[ttuuxxx]

still needs a few enhancements, like
-default puppy font size/type
-Puppy personal menu bar links
-maybe monkey menus so it could have a separate/adjustable search box with puppy related search engines
-smaller theme, that one is very large.
-should system link the usr/local/lib/seamonkey/"*.so" files to usr/local/lib/
That is what I take are most views from users who've tried the 4.2 version.
Hmmm If I find some free time I might look at it.
ttuuxxx