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The command from a terminal would be setxkbmap.
If you were to use Icewm as a window manager (an option thanks to Ttuuxxx in puppy 4.2.1) then it has a (nicely designed) popup shortcut menu between the "Puppy 4.2" start button and the taskbar. Its possible to add an extra popup here by editing the /usr/share/icewm/preferences file. Make two bash scripts, running the setxkbmap commands you want, and call them from this new preferences menu. In order to refresh the icewm graphics if you want the icon to change, you will need to know the bash command for restarting icewm too.
The command from a terminal would be setxkbmap.
If you were to use Icewm as a window manager (an option thanks to Ttuuxxx in puppy 4.2.1) then it has a (nicely designed) popup shortcut menu between the "Puppy 4.2" start button and the taskbar. Its possible to add an extra popup here by editing the /usr/share/icewm/preferences file. Make two bash scripts, running the setxkbmap commands you want, and call them from this new preferences menu. In order to refresh the icewm graphics if you want the icon to change, you will need to know the bash command for restarting icewm too.
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Puppy 4 Keyboard Language
Thanks Aitch yes I think you understand what I want.
Not a French version of Puppy – though that would be interesting in its own right, but the ability to be able to switch keyboard maps in the middle of a document from one language to another. I often work with English and French translation documents and sometime Spanish.
In Windows I simply add the keyboard layouts I want to my computer then when I want to switch there is Language ICON in the System tray, Click it and you get a list of keyboard maps available to select. Select the one you want and the Icon indicates the language. EN for English, FR for French etc.
Also doing the this sets the language for the application being used at the time, so I can have one document open in a window where the language is set to English and another one where the language is set to French, making document comparisons and changes easy.
Ecomoney, I’m afraid I haven’t discovered ICEwm yet and have no idea what a Bash command is.
Thanks for all your advice
STG
Not a French version of Puppy – though that would be interesting in its own right, but the ability to be able to switch keyboard maps in the middle of a document from one language to another. I often work with English and French translation documents and sometime Spanish.
In Windows I simply add the keyboard layouts I want to my computer then when I want to switch there is Language ICON in the System tray, Click it and you get a list of keyboard maps available to select. Select the one you want and the Icon indicates the language. EN for English, FR for French etc.
Also doing the this sets the language for the application being used at the time, so I can have one document open in a window where the language is set to English and another one where the language is set to French, making document comparisons and changes easy.
Ecomoney, I’m afraid I haven’t discovered ICEwm yet and have no idea what a Bash command is.
Thanks for all your advice
STG
Everything I know I found out for myself but only after some kind person pointed out the way.
I'm not really a Geek, just hate things that don't work
I'm not really a Geek, just hate things that don't work
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Re: Puppy 4 Keyboard Language
Icewm is a window manager, like JWM, But Icewm has nicer graphic because it uses images while JWM uses gradients.SelftaughtGeek wrote: Ecomoney, I’m afraid I haven’t discovered ICEwm yet and have no idea what a Bash command is.
Thanks for all your advice
STG
I'm one of the pro's when it comes to icewm, This was my last package I made up, just install it and restart X-server, there are a few themes included in the menu
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http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
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Newbie feedback
Ok if you think it's that good an idea I willAitch wrote:STG
Perhaps it's a sufficiently good idea to merit it's own thread...
Entitled: Suggestion/Request for Language Switcher Widget....maybe??
link here to there and there to here for googlebot
Aitch
Question - where is the right place in the forum to post it?
How do I make the links for Googlebot?
STG
Everything I know I found out for myself but only after some kind person pointed out the way.
I'm not really a Geek, just hate things that don't work
I'm not really a Geek, just hate things that don't work
STG
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/postin ... wtopic&f=5
Make the post request, stating which puppy version and type of install it is for & that this is needed now, not for a future addition to the next release,
.....although it might be a good idea if it was included.......
If someone can do a .pet or script, as suggested, instead of a widget, that would do, I think
put a link to this forum thread in the post, e. g.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=135
[make the link active by clicking the url button above the post window screen / top right]
Copy that post's url link. Then come back to this thread and post that thread url link here, OK?
Should get some attention
Easy
Aitch
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/postin ... wtopic&f=5
Make the post request, stating which puppy version and type of install it is for & that this is needed now, not for a future addition to the next release,
.....although it might be a good idea if it was included.......
If someone can do a .pet or script, as suggested, instead of a widget, that would do, I think
put a link to this forum thread in the post, e. g.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=135
[make the link active by clicking the url button above the post window screen / top right]
Copy that post's url link. Then come back to this thread and post that thread url link here, OK?
Should get some attention
Easy
Aitch
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Newbie feedback
Thanks Aitch
Posted as suggested, though haven't got the hang of the links yet
Link below is to a new request to add a keyboard map switcher and flag to Puppy4 so that it is simple to switch keyboard languages / layouts in each window
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 275#342275
STG
Posted as suggested, though haven't got the hang of the links yet
Link below is to a new request to add a keyboard map switcher and flag to Puppy4 so that it is simple to switch keyboard languages / layouts in each window
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 275#342275
STG
Last edited by SelftaughtGeek on Fri 18 Sep 2009, 15:19, edited 1 time in total.
In order to get the url links to work, click edit for your last post
Add a line of explanation, so people who haven't followed this, know why it's there, then move the & onto the same actual line as the real url link, leaving no spaces like this
Real URL
OK?
You'll need to edit the other thread, too, btw
It's good, well done
When you come to do your frugal install, which isn't hard, first do a chkdsk & defrag of your windoze hard drive, then you could go as far as making a couple of partitions, one for puppy files and one as a swap file
[Not absolutely necessary, but worth the effort, as sometimes windoze will delete puppy files, at bootup/shutdown chkdsk, thinking they are corrupt windoze files]
Putting puppy files in their own partition instead of windoze C:\ drive prevents this
edit: sorry was editing and you posted first
Aitch
Add a line of explanation, so people who haven't followed this, know why it's there, then move the & onto the same actual line as the real url link, leaving no spaces like this
Real URL
OK?
You'll need to edit the other thread, too, btw
It's good, well done
When you come to do your frugal install, which isn't hard, first do a chkdsk & defrag of your windoze hard drive, then you could go as far as making a couple of partitions, one for puppy files and one as a swap file
[Not absolutely necessary, but worth the effort, as sometimes windoze will delete puppy files, at bootup/shutdown chkdsk, thinking they are corrupt windoze files]
Putting puppy files in their own partition instead of windoze C:\ drive prevents this
edit: sorry was editing and you posted first
Aitch
Last edited by Aitch on Fri 18 Sep 2009, 15:28, edited 1 time in total.
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I may misunderstand you but: When I write a post I must do the following to create a link:
Code: Select all
I start with:
[url=][/url]
Then I do this:
[url=http://www.address.com/page.htm]Web Site Link Text or address[/url]
Edit: I guess it doesn't matter since STG made it work.
Yes, that's why your scroogle scaper link shows as scroogle, and mine as http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htmpuppyite wrote:Code: Select all
[url=http://www.address.com/page.htm]Web Site Link Text or address[/url]
Although both function with the same resultant link, I think yours is neater, but some people don't like 'unknown' links, because of re-directer spammers, e.g. your word 'scroogle' could link anywhere not just to scroogle link & who would know?
So I use the basic [visible link] method
Just highlight a URL & hit the button, making sure the boxes are in the same line, with no spaces between the link and url boxes
For the same reason I always use the preview version of TinyURL when I use that for long URL links
Aitch
Aitch,
I would like to shed light on some misconceptions:
If you examine my example code closely you will see that just like you I also specified that the URL *could* be the visible link text.
Whether text or URL is used for the visible link the actual address becomes visible in the browser status bar when you mouse over the link.
The address that appears in the browser status bar *can* be obfuscated via JavaScript but AFAIK this would not be possible in a forum post. Well I don't know how and I surely wouldn't try.
Finally and most confusingly it is *possible* for the visible link to misrepresent the URL. I.E. the visible link is: http://yahoo.com but the link really points to http://malefactor.com
I offer this only in the interest of clarity and I hope you don't think I'm trying to dispute what you say because you have been very gracious to me.
I would like to shed light on some misconceptions:
If you examine my example code closely you will see that just like you I also specified that the URL *could* be the visible link text.
Whether text or URL is used for the visible link the actual address becomes visible in the browser status bar when you mouse over the link.
The address that appears in the browser status bar *can* be obfuscated via JavaScript but AFAIK this would not be possible in a forum post. Well I don't know how and I surely wouldn't try.
Finally and most confusingly it is *possible* for the visible link to misrepresent the URL. I.E. the visible link is: http://yahoo.com but the link really points to http://malefactor.com
I offer this only in the interest of clarity and I hope you don't think I'm trying to dispute what you say because you have been very gracious to me.
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In case anyone else was following my thread about keyboard maps follow this link
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 683#342683
ttuuxxx made a pet that does exactly what I wanted - fantastic and the country flags are soooo cute.
STG
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 683#342683
ttuuxxx made a pet that does exactly what I wanted - fantastic and the country flags are soooo cute.
STG
Everything I know I found out for myself but only after some kind person pointed out the way.
I'm not really a Geek, just hate things that don't work
I'm not really a Geek, just hate things that don't work
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In case anyone else was following my thread about keyboard maps follow this link
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 683#342683
ttuuxxx made a pet that does exactly what I wanted - fantastic and the country flags are soooo cute.
STG
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 683#342683
ttuuxxx made a pet that does exactly what I wanted - fantastic and the country flags are soooo cute.
STG
Everything I know I found out for myself but only after some kind person pointed out the way.
I'm not really a Geek, just hate things that don't work
I'm not really a Geek, just hate things that don't work
Thumbs up STG, I agree, ttuuxxx is a star!
Hope it will come in useful for others
I'll post a suggestion for it to go mainstream......done!
puppyite - no problem
You are quite right,
The only suggestion I can offer is; I use Firepup, and the actual site you are going to, shows up bottom left [where the word 'Done' normally sits]
Is that what you mean by browser status bar? - I'm terrible with technical stuff - no need to answer, we've added enough here already.....
Aitch
Hope it will come in useful for others
I'll post a suggestion for it to go mainstream......done!
puppyite - no problem
You are quite right,
The only suggestion I can offer is; I use Firepup, and the actual site you are going to, shows up bottom left [where the word 'Done' normally sits]
Is that what you mean by browser status bar? - I'm terrible with technical stuff - no need to answer, we've added enough here already.....
Aitch
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A newbie experience
My background is I ran a Unix system back in the early 80s but long since have forgotten what I knew about scripting, greping, all that other stuff ... I wanted to install a fast Linux-based system on an old PC that worked out of the box that would let me do browsing with a wireless Internet connection, and some basic desktop aps to boot.
I spent 48 hours with xubuntu and finally gave up after about a dozen attempts at install. I went to puppy, and it took me about 6 installs to get it to work.
My biggest problem ... grub. For some reason, I could never get it installed correctly. There needs to be a simple grub installation that will repair and install grub (not grubconfig, that didn't help me). About the 6th universal install finally booted properly (dual booted, i.e.).
My second hurtle, which I am still in the middle of, is how to get my wireless card recognized and talking to my router. I am about to buy a new pcmcia card because of my inability to get this card (Linksys WPC54G) up. This should not be this hard, folks! I finally figured out Ndiswrapper (I think ... not sure), but that didn't work, either. There needs to be a clear, step-by-step set of instructions for how to integrate Ndiswrapper drivers into the system, including how and what to download from the Windows driver set.
I could find no UP TO DATE list of cards that were supported with native drivers. That would be a big help. The most recent list seemed to be 3 years out of date and contained cards no longer even available.
But, hey! It is free! I'm not complaining. Just a wish list!
I spent 48 hours with xubuntu and finally gave up after about a dozen attempts at install. I went to puppy, and it took me about 6 installs to get it to work.
My biggest problem ... grub. For some reason, I could never get it installed correctly. There needs to be a simple grub installation that will repair and install grub (not grubconfig, that didn't help me). About the 6th universal install finally booted properly (dual booted, i.e.).
My second hurtle, which I am still in the middle of, is how to get my wireless card recognized and talking to my router. I am about to buy a new pcmcia card because of my inability to get this card (Linksys WPC54G) up. This should not be this hard, folks! I finally figured out Ndiswrapper (I think ... not sure), but that didn't work, either. There needs to be a clear, step-by-step set of instructions for how to integrate Ndiswrapper drivers into the system, including how and what to download from the Windows driver set.
I could find no UP TO DATE list of cards that were supported with native drivers. That would be a big help. The most recent list seemed to be 3 years out of date and contained cards no longer even available.
But, hey! It is free! I'm not complaining. Just a wish list!
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Hi wizard_chef --
This may help for issue #2:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=11861
RE xubuntu: I tried for a long time to make that distro work for me. Unfortunately, despite all the press about its small footprint, I still find it bloated and slow.
Stick with Puppy and you won't be disappointed.
This may help for issue #2:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=11861
RE xubuntu: I tried for a long time to make that distro work for me. Unfortunately, despite all the press about its small footprint, I still find it bloated and slow.
Stick with Puppy and you won't be disappointed.
Hi wizard_chef
this may be useful to you
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=11277
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=22469
sometimes it all goes horribly wrong.....
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=44507
there are still issues both with the wizards, and kernel changes, and manuals/info.....IMO
Aitch
this may be useful to you
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=11277
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=22469
sometimes it all goes horribly wrong.....
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=44507
there are still issues both with the wizards, and kernel changes, and manuals/info.....IMO
Aitch