Classic Pup 2.14X -- Updated 2 series

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#981 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 29 Jul 2009, 06:12

Aitch wrote:ttuuxxx/anyone reading my earlier post [p63] about the info_get script from big_bass

download here:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... h&id=20393

Thanks for testing

Aitch

Ok I ran it and got this. It basically just gives me info on my video.

sh-3.00# /root/Downloads/info_get_v03
vbe: VESA 3.0 detected.
oem: NVIDIA
vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
product: G86 Board - p403h24 Chip Rev
memory: 14336kb
mode: 640x400x256
mode: 640x480x256
mode: 800x600x16
mode: 800x600x256
mode: 1024x768x16
mode: 1024x768x256
mode: 1280x1024x16
mode: 1280x1024x256
mode: 320x200x64k
mode: 320x200x16m
mode: 640x480x64k
mode: 640x480x16m
mode: 800x600x64k
mode: 800x600x16m
mode: 1024x768x64k
mode: 1024x768x16m
mode: 1280x1024x64k
mode: 1280x1024x16m
edid:
edidfail
dmidecode is NOT installed

sh-3.00#
ttuuxxx

OlddogNewtricks · #982 Post by **OlddogNewtricks** » Wed 29 Jul 2009, 07:31

info_get script.

Both versions worked perfectly for me, 10 logs in the first one & producing a blank dmidecode log but assumed that was normal. The second exactly the same but without the dmidecode log. Also good for pup 217.
Logs are definitely for experts.

#983 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 29 Jul 2009, 10:03

[quote="Minnesota"][/quote]
maybe try this netwizard from 4 series?
ttuuxxx

also looks like this helps
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 1707#31707

tempestuous · #984 Post by **tempestuous** » Wed 29 Jul 2009, 11:53

ttuuxxx
There was no need to provide the zd1211b wifi driver, since Puppy 214X already inherits the very latest zd1211b driver (svn revision 85) which is provided in Puppy 214R.

If anything, Zydas problems might be rectified by reverting to the standard opensource zd1211rw driver, which I just reported in the "Extras for Puppy 2.12 - 2.16" thread
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 427#327427
Minnesota and rjbrewer, please try.

ttuuxxx wrote:also looks like this helps
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 1707#31707

No. Resetting the PCMCIA/Cardbus interface won't help, when ZD1211 devices are all USB.

ttuuxxx wrote:You can't install package from a usb or hard drive sometimes

That should never be true. Dotpets can be installed from any valid directory path.
Notice I said "valid". That means no spaces in directory names, for example.

aragon · #985 Post by **aragon** » Wed 29 Jul 2009, 12:14

tempestuous wrote:...That means no spaces in directory names, for example.

this issue was fixed for 4.20. if i remember right, it was a simple fix with "" on two positions. if i find it, i'll post it.

Found It: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 919#256919

pizzasgood wrote:/usr/sbin/petget has issues with spaces in the path to the file it's installing. Should be fixable by putting quotation marks around the $ALIENFILE

might not be the same position, but ...

aragon

tempestuous · #986 Post by **tempestuous** » Wed 29 Jul 2009, 12:34

aragon wrote:
pizzasgood wrote:/usr/sbin/petget has issues with spaces in the path to the file it's installing. Should be fixable by putting quotation marks around the $ALIENFILE

OK. Good news.
But has this fix been applied to Puppy 214X ?

It remains true that dotpets can be installed from any valid directory path
... it's just a question of what constitutes "valid".
pizzasgood has established a situation where directory names with spaces are now valid.

#987 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 29 Jul 2009, 12:57

Thanks for your help again tempestuous

Oh ya the install issue from hard drive/usb I remember the older version had issues with that, as to the fix provided I'll add it for the next release, But the pets he had issues installing from the usb stick contained no spaces in the file names. I don't make packages with spaces in the file names, Its always good not to do that, I learned that in web development in tafe, since the internet also doesn't like space in filenames on servers, So I just never use them at all.
ttuuxxx

#988 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 29 Jul 2009, 12:58

Oh one quick question tempestuous, should I add the driver to the iso and should I remove the older one or keep both?
Thanks for your help again.

ttuuxxx

Minnesota · #989 Post by **Minnesota** » Wed 29 Jul 2009, 13:13

ttuuxxx:

I am trying both the wizard and driver on different machines... I think the problem may be deeper that we think.. it may in part be an issue with USB ONE and usb two... have not made a determination yet... it might be something in the kernel as well.

Mentioned before I have two dongles.. when both are installed with x7 it does not see them both.. yet will see each independently. Have been interrupted National Roller Skating meet. Grand Daughter skating now...

Will test more later.

tempestuous · #990 Post by **tempestuous** » Wed 29 Jul 2009, 13:15

ttuuxxx wrote:should I add the driver to the iso and should I remove the older one or keep both?

I don't know!
That's an ongoing problem I have of trying to help people with hardware that I don't own, myself.

Minnesota and rjbrewer's results may help, but I suspect that the zd1211/zd1211b combination may be best for some, and the zd1211rw may be best for others.
And it's probably a bad idea to include both sets of drivers, since they will conflict.

A good idea might be to see if you can transplant the "MODULES PREFLIST" system from Puppy 4.x, whereby Puppy can define a preference for two competing drivers.

sinc · #991 Post by **sinc** » Wed 29 Jul 2009, 14:05

i installed the pets from pg 64 and had no problem. the rutil put an icon in my system tray that gives my my wireless readings and pwireless shows up on my network menu. I don't know the reason for pwireless becuase it seems that the wizard does the exact same thing... but it works.

from my last post I opened pb_Default but when I change things in there and save, it doesn't fix anything. I think the lock icon is designed to always move to the right side of the screen. I found something about "fixpuppypin" on the the forum that seemed like it might have been dealing with that issue.

MHHP - my pup-files are in hda2. which is why i find it weird on my desktop it shows up as hda3:home(hda2):hda4. That is not alphabetical order or numerical order. it is no order. i saw soemthing in the top of initrc that looked like it was dealing with placing those icons on the desktop and I think it shows a-z. but thats not what I see happening.????

btw...I stil have to use xvesa. xorg won't shut down even with a fresh install. the screen turns black and it hangs there.

#992 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 29 Jul 2009, 14:10

Hi Minnesota here's the latest usbutils user a way older usb lib from 2006 only, and not the latest 2009 usblib, even the latest Ubuntu release uses this old 2006 usblib for the usbutils.
libusb-0.1.12-i386 <--- old lib that has to be used
libusb-1.0.2-i386 <-- new lib that can't, man thats strange.
anyways try the package below and see if that helps,

and I found a wack of usb kernel patches but I wouldn't have a clue how to use them, http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/ ... .6.18-rc1/
ttuuxxx

aragon · #993 Post by **aragon** » Wed 29 Jul 2009, 14:11

ttuuxxx wrote:...I don't make packages with spaces in the file names...
ttuuxxx

we all know that you know how to package...

the problem is not the building but the installation from directories with spaces in the path... and this problem could be solved with the mentioned patch.

aragon

#994 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 29 Jul 2009, 14:24

aragon wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:...I don't make packages with spaces in the file names...
ttuuxxx
we all know that you know how to package...

the problem is not the building but the installation from directories with spaces in the path... and this problem could be solved with the mentioned patch.

aragon

Hi aragon its not that simple

The reason why is that 2.14X is using Barry's latest 5 series package manager, That doesn't have that specif term you listed before in it, Barry broke apart the package manager for series 5 in different parts, located in /usr/local/petget, I searched all 5 parts and its a no show for that term.
ttuuxxx

aragon · #995 Post by **aragon** » Wed 29 Jul 2009, 14:30

aahhh ok, now i understand... didn't know you're using v.5-petget.

aragon

rjbrewer · #996 Post by **rjbrewer** » Wed 29 Jul 2009, 15:22

Tried the zd1211rw pet and usb utils pet...no luck.

Output of modprobe and dmesg:

h-3.00# rmmod zd1211b
ERROR: Module zd1211b does not exist in /proc/modules
sh-3.00# modprobe zd1211rw
FATAL: Error inserting zd1211rw (/lib/modules/2.6.18.1/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/zd1211rw/zd1211rw.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
sh-3.00#

zd1211rw: Unknown symbol alloc_ieee80211softmac
zd1211rw: Unknown symbol ieee80211softmac_wx_trigger_scan
zd1211rw: Unknown symbol ieee80211_wx_get_auth
zd1211rw: Unknown symbol ieee80211softmac_wx_get_scan_results
zd1211rw: Unknown symbol ieee80211_set_geo
zd1211rw: Unknown symbol ieee80211softmac_wx_get_genie
zd1211rw: Unknown symbol ieee80211softmac_start
zd1211rw: Unknown symbol ieee80211softmac_wx_set_essid
zd1211rw: Unknown symbol ieee80211_rx
zd1211rw: Unknown symbol ieee80211softmac_wx_get_wap
zd1211rw: Unknown symbol ieee80211softmac_wx_get_rate
zd1211rw: Unknown symbol ieee80211_rx_mgt
zd1211rw: Unknown symbol ieee80211softmac_wx_get_essid
zd1211rw: Unknown symbol ieee80211softmac_wx_set_wap
zd1211rw: Unknown symbol free_ieee80211
zd1211rw: Unknown symbol ieee80211softmac_wx_set_mlme
zd1211rw: Unknown symbol ieee80211softmac_wx_set_genie
zd1211rw: Unknown symbol ieee80211softmac_stop
sh-3.00#
sh-3.00# zd1211rw: Unknown symbol ieee80211_set_geo
sh: zd1211rw:: command not found
sh-3.00# zd1211rw: Unknown symbol ieee80211softmac_wx_get_genie
sh: zd1211rw:: command not found
sh-3.00#

/proc folder is frozen, can't move or access anything, need to
kill to close and then screen goes black and need to restart x.

sinc · #997 Post by **sinc** » Wed 29 Jul 2009, 18:40

sorry to be learning along the way but I have a couple of questions w/ hopefully easy answers so as not to take much time from the people doing real work here.
but... I know what pwireless and rutilt are b/c they have interfaces. what are the other three packages for wireless_tools.30, pcmciautils, ndiswrapper? are these pets going to be included in the next release or are they just extra pets you have made for people to find and use? i like the rutilts btw. thanks.

#998 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 29 Jul 2009, 18:49

sinc wrote:sorry to be learning along the way but I have a couple of questions w/ hopefully easy answers so as not to take much time from the people doing real work here.
but... I know what pwireless and rutilt are b/c they have interfaces. what are the other three packages for wireless_tools.30, pcmciautils, ndiswrapper? are these pets going to be included in the next release or are they just extra pets you have made for people to find and use? i like the rutilts btw. thanks.

Most applications have a backend and a frontend, The backend is the workhorse you don't see, and the frontend is the graphic interface like rutilts and just about every 'P' application in the menu

The other packages are the backends for wireless and pcmcia.
Hope that clears it up

ttuuxxx

#999 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 29 Jul 2009, 18:50

Oh ya before any of those packages are included, they will have to be tested first

and most of them are updates to packages already installed in 2.14X
ttuuxxx

Minnesota · #1000 Post by **Minnesota** » Wed 29 Jul 2009, 19:08

ttuuxxx:

Weird???? Don't know what is really going on... tried different hardware this morning and get different results...right now back on original box and original x7 and it seems to for the most part be working.... it still will not recognize two similar dongles at a time... I do not understand that.

I can not get it to hang. I am beginning to believe it may have something to do with signal strengths... and the way the driver or kernel or something is processing the weak signals. Or errors? So.. for the moment I give up.

When I get a bit more time or if someone has any other suggestions I will try several versions on different boxes, old and new usb as well as different processors and memory.

Edit... went over (ten min?) to shut it down and it is hung.. so something is going on...

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