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muggins

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PostPosted: Thu 23 Jul 2009, 13:49    Post_subject:  

Try running lsmod, on both frugal & full installs, & compare output to see whether some modules aren't being loaded with full install.
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big_bass

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PostPosted: Fri 24 Jul 2009, 09:39    Post_subject:  

thanks muggins


updated to version .03 to now work for older puppy versions too 7-26-09

I wrote a "quick" info get script to help solve problems

Paul (pakt) added to it a another step he added more logs
and had it all placed in one folder


this script is now called info_get_v03.tar.gz
attached


1. download it

2. unzip it

3 click on this script----> info_get_v03

4 this compressed file gets auto built for you info_tarball.tar.gz

5 attach it to your forum post

more people can find what went wrong
fixing problems faster Very Happy


*this will work for any version of puppy*


files that get saved are:

bootkernel.log
cpuinfo.txt
ddcprobe.txt
dmesg.txt
dmidecode.txt
elspci-l.txt
lsmod.txt
meminfo.txt
xerrs.log
Xorg.0.log




Joe
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Aitch


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Location: Chatham, Kent, UK

PostPosted: Fri 24 Jul 2009, 11:48    Post_subject:  

big_bass

Quote:
*this will work for any version of puppy*


This merits its own thread & sticky in the beginners section, IMHO

Thanks to both you & pakt

Anything which helps unravel problems here, is all good to me .....

copied to ttuuxxx's 214xx thread, Very Happy

& got this immediate response

ttuuxxx wrote:
Hi Aitch I just tried it and got this error in 2.14X
line 29: dmidecode: command not found
sounds like I'm missing something for this to work
ttuuxxx


Quote:
*this will work for any version of puppy*


Oops! teach me to highlight it....

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PostPosted: Fri 24 Jul 2009, 12:37    Post_subject:  

Very Happy Hello,
Works great in 4.12...Should be very useful for de-bugging...Great idea...

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8-bit


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PostPosted: Fri 24 Jul 2009, 13:02    Post_subject:  

This is just for your info on my system running Puppy 421 frugal.
It will not display scsi devices in the report since I am not running a version with scsi support and have not added it.
But here is my tarball.
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fyujj

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PostPosted: Sun 26 Jul 2009, 15:40    Post_subject: slaxerpup.exe
Sub_title: 'One-click' frugal install.
 

So someone has that old laptop with its original win98 and maybe just a floppy drive. I know the smart guys always can find a way to install a modern Linux there but...there are some careful people that manage to take care of their Windows installation so long, they deserve not having to stress their precious machine and install the up-to-date **Slaxer Pup** in just one click (a few clicks TBH, but we don't need to spread that).
So Puppy-Win32-Installer http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=44098 + Slaxer Pup = slaxerpup.exe.zip http://www.divshare.com/download/7994250-ae1

md5sum=4721f3270460af1dd37030afc7d23bdd

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big_bass

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PostPosted: Sun 26 Jul 2009, 18:52    Post_subject:  

Aitch

I said about the info_get script

Quote:
*this will work for any version of puppy*



I should have said will adjust it to work for "any version" if
requested Smile


here's the updated version
will work for those without dmidecode

thanks for testing on older versions of puppy

Joe
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PostPosted: Sun 26 Jul 2009, 19:06    Post_subject:  

fyujj


great to hear about your alternative install !
I'll have to investigate that


Did you use the latest on http://www.puppy2.org/slaxer/

thanks for the report Smile
and the link

Joe

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PostPosted: Tue 28 Jul 2009, 12:15    Post_subject:  

Hi, bb.
Credits go to seeker for the installer and for http://www.icpug.org.uk/national/linnwin/step00-linnwin.htm
BTW, it works perfectly in my Win2k VirtualBox install. I had the .iso but had it not installed but I may do it now (in a frugal inside Hardy).

Correct me if I'm wrong but if the new initrd is basically to enable a usb boot then it would be no use here. This is an installer, after all.

There's just on thing: the ReadMe file is in Portuguese. Attached is the original English one (just a basic introduction to a Puppy frugal install for first time users - later I'll upload an installer in English and with the updated initrd since I've already changed it here)
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Aitch


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PostPosted: Tue 28 Jul 2009, 19:14    Post_subject:  

Thanks Joe, updated version posted

fyujj,
What version of virtualbox are you using in Win2K, as I just tried to get 3.0.2 to go and went all the way back to 1.6.0 & it'll only run in XP, apparently.....
I was trying to get playdayz new 4.2.1 virtualpup to go, but don't know if it'll go in your version, can you test it, please?

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=45028

sorry Joe, bit aside I know.....

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fyujj

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PostPosted: Tue 28 Jul 2009, 20:08    Post_subject:  

Aitch, this installer installs Puppy (in this case Slaxer Pup 412) directly to Windows just like a frugal install and it edits the Windows original boot loader so it doesn't install GRUB.
So I installed in a Windows 2k virtual machine running inside Ubuntu.

Just FYI, it is VB 3.0.2 (Linux version, of course).

That Puppy 4.2.1 virtual machine may be nice indeed since playdayz took the time to set it up (the stuff we're not always willing to do).

But in your case, you could just use Puppy 4.2.1 .exe file, which another guy made and ecomoney is mirrorring http://www.ecomoney.eu/puppy/winstaller/pup-installer-pl421.exe

Edit - well, I see you're actually trying to get VB running in Win2k. In VirtualBox's site it is said that it is 'primarily for Windows XP'. You can bet on that...
I saw on the web a link for VB for Win2k and it was v. 1.5.4 , only the link wasn't working. Maybe Qemu or VMware would work (I've never used them, though).
http://www.vmware.com/download/player/
http://www.erikveen.dds.nl/qemupuppy/

OTOH, you could also install VB in Puppy and create a Win2k virtual machine (I know it takes longer to update with service packs and such but it works really well).
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jduffy22335

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PostPosted: Tue 28 Jul 2009, 21:22    Post_subject: Compaq Arnada 7400
Sub_title: Works fairly well
 

big_bass wrote:
Aitch

here's the updated version
will work for those without dmidecode

Joe


Here is the info for an old laptop, PII 300MHz with 128 M.
Frugal and floppy was painful, so went full install of your Slxr Pup and a PCMCIA wireless card, not to shabby for the old girl.
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PostPosted: Wed 29 Jul 2009, 11:58    Post_subject:  

jduffy22335

thanks for posting the information


is your fan working ?

Joe

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PostPosted: Wed 29 Jul 2009, 12:03    Post_subject:  

EZ4arabs
could you attach some hardware info using the click_here

in this thread called info_get Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:39 am

I would like to see what happened between frugal and full installs


thanks
I would like to solve that and logs are needed


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PostPosted: Wed 29 Jul 2009, 12:20    Post_subject:  

8-bit

thanks for the info

and posting the tarball


ohh I remembered you said MFM drives

I remember setting them up using a cheat sheet
to get the correct drive code number selected

I also remember thinking why would you ever need more than 10MB
for a hard drive Laughing

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