HanSamBen-a derivative of Edupup with Gcompris 8.4- Alpha V2

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sidders · #141 Post by **sidders** » Sun 28 Jun 2009, 20:50

Compiled xonclock 0.0.9.2 and took all the skins out bar one.

sidders · #142 Post by **sidders** » Sun 28 Jun 2009, 20:52

Here are the other skins

Extract to /usr/local/share/xonclock/skins

sidders · #143 Post by **sidders** » Mon 29 Jun 2009, 20:19

Cups (1.3.9) I tested the Cups and it didnt work, it could be that something doesnt come across in the remaster process. I reinstalled Cups but recieved an error

Error "Unsupported format "application/postscript."

when printing a test page. The printer is a Samsung ML 1210 laser, using a Gutenprint. I only reinstalled Cups and not Splix etc.

I will reinstall and manually remaster. Or i may jmake a print SFS, and use it for the Lite version aswell.

Any preferences?

Chris. i will change the Pup_sfs. On the remaster i will change it to pup_412Edu.sfs. I'm not sure if you can scrub the 412, i'll experiment.

Peter444 · #144 Post by **Peter444** » Mon 29 Jun 2009, 23:10

Hi sidders, came across this small game Frogger, my grandaughter loves it, here is the link, worth a look when you get time but you probably dont have much of that to spare these days

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 276#223276

regards

rcrsn51 · #145 Post by **rcrsn51** » Mon 29 Jun 2009, 23:38

Error "Unsupported format "application/postscript."

Go to the folder /etc/cups and look for the files "mime.types" and "mime.convs". If they are missing, there may be copies named something like "mime.types.o" and "mime.convs.o". Rename these files to the required names.

ecomoney · #146 Post by **ecomoney** » Tue 30 Jun 2009, 11:30

Hi Sidders/All

Just a few thoughts about the progress so far...

The password is going to be pretty hard to remember (for those who dont know what a "hdd" is!), may I suggest a different one be used...perhaps "recyclethiscomputer" would be more memorable?

The printing would be better made an sfs.....in my experience, if a kid is left on a pc with a working printer you will come back to find the printer empty and the ink used up. Perhaps printing if it is included should be something that requires adult supervision to do.

If you wish, I can change the init scripts to look for say "kid_save.2fs" and kid_412 or similar. This would mean that people from this forum can install it alongside standard puppy for their children, and we would get more feedback about it from "puppy experts".

sidders · #147 Post by **sidders** » Tue 30 Jun 2009, 22:54

Peter

Frogger in Puppy 4 > needs Tcl/TK, which is about 4 mb. you can get the TCL and TK core libraries from puppy 3 repo in petget. It works.

technosaurus · #148 Post by **technosaurus** » Thu 02 Jul 2009, 02:23

I repacked hhh with no background music

it has a blank text file marker that you can replace with whatever .ogg you'd like (or just leave it for some peace and quiet) - its at /usr/share/hhh/bgm1.ogg (I would suggest replacing it with a symlink to a gcompris sound file)

sidders · #149 Post by **sidders** » Fri 03 Jul 2009, 21:02

Thx Technosaurus. At the mo i'm struggling with Cups sfs.

Tried from the 1.3.9 pet with hplip and splix, but it wont play the game. So i had a look at the cups sfs from Choice pup. I reckon i need a file or 2 within the the ISO itself. Basically i need to examine all the files and maybe download choice pup and look at that.

cthisbear · #150 Post by **cthisbear** » Fri 03 Jul 2009, 23:21

Any help from BKs' blog.

" 415: Cups, Gutenprint upgraded
cups 1.1.23-patched1
Not a version upgrade, just a patch provided by kirk to enable a
print job to be cancelled in the web interface. "

http://puppylinux.com/blog/?viewDetailed=00862

Chris

rcrsn51 · #151 Post by **rcrsn51** » Fri 03 Jul 2009, 23:37

@sidders: Did you see my message six back about the solution to your "Unsupported format - application/postscript." error?

When dealing with CUPS problems, you need to turn on full error logging. Go to /etc/cups and open the file cupsd.conf. Find the line "LogLevel info" and change it to "LogLevel debug".

Restart CUPS and run a print job.

Go to /var/log/cups and open the error_log file. Start at the bottom and work your way up looking for a fatal error message.

sidders · #152 Post by **sidders** » Mon 06 Jul 2009, 15:26

rcrsn51 , thx the fix worked.

Going forward, i have ripped cups out altogether and i will go back to trying a cups sfs.
The delayedrun has been sorted out, also been doing a lot of dithering.

Now its the save file. Which script is it that determines which save file is loaded? (pup_save to kid_save) I've had a quick look at sysinit, but couldnt find it there.
Going to start putting together some help files for oneclick (html) and look at the existing files

ecomoney · #153 Post by **ecomoney** » Mon 06 Jul 2009, 18:42

Great news regarding CUPS...should save a few trees

sidders · #154 Post by **sidders** » Mon 06 Jul 2009, 22:14

Found the init file. Unpacked initrd.gz. Will look at it later. Time for bed.

rcrsn51 · #155 Post by **rcrsn51** » Mon 06 Jul 2009, 22:46

Deleting CUPS and then reinstalling it as an SFS seems like a lot of work. Do you not get the same effect by shipping HanSamBen with no printers installed? Your average child is never going to figure out CUPS on his/her own!

sidders · #156 Post by **sidders** » Wed 08 Jul 2009, 16:51

I,ve done it now. It still needs testing though.
Just had another call from our nursery, they have had another power cut and hsb refuses to play again (full install) . I did a little research and it seems that ext3 is a little more robust than ext2. So whilst on the init trail i think i can change the save files to 3fs as well as renaming them. I had a quick hack last night and failed. I an also assuming that the rc shutdown script and oneclick scripts will have to be tickled.

This may be a daft question, but the command mke2fs will create an ext2 filesystem, therefore mke3fs will do ext3?.

Its been a long night reading and trying to understand scripts.
Thx in advance

sidders · #157 Post by **sidders** » Sun 12 Jul 2009, 22:44

Just a quick update on my slow progress.

Ext3 pup saves and partitions:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 309#323309

The init script:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=40958

I have already tickled the init script to look for hsb_save instead of pup_save and it worked, but it needs more testing from a couple of fresh installs along with the ext3 thing.
If anybody can see a reason not to go down the ext3 route, let me know.

sidders · #158 Post by **sidders** » Thu 16 Jul 2009, 18:40

Testing, testing, 1,2,3

Hit upon a problem with the installer, full install. I've changed the pup_412.sfs to hsb_412.sfs, changed the init and rcshutdown to mirror the hsb_....2fs.
The frugal is ok, i can change the script to look for ????.sfs, but its the full install. The script kicks in the puppy universal installer (PUI), which looks for pup_412..... So going to poke around and see what i can see.

The other problem that i envisage is to do with the sfs's. There are a couple of pets out there to install the sfs, but to do it in one from the install?. Need more time and more printers for the cups.

Abandoned the ext3 for the moment, doing too much without testing at each stage.

sidders · #159 Post by **sidders** » Sun 19 Jul 2009, 18:43

Quick update

Cups sfs is working. I used JRB's choice pup cups and added Gutenprint, HPLIP and Splix. Tested on my HP G85 and it worked handsomley. Just got to get out there and try some other printers.

Tested the frugal install script along with the additional sfs's and again it worked. Need to stop bootmanager popping up every time it starts.

Had a look at the PUI script and its a massive challenge even just to pick out the bits for the full install

I'm going away for 3 weeks on thursday, but i will upload what i have before then.

sidders · #160 Post by **sidders** » Wed 22 Jul 2009, 06:41

Version 3 http://www.ecomoney.eu/hsb

HSBFull_alphaV3.iso

I have to admit, given more time (a lot more) i could have carried on tweeking this for ever.
As i'm going away for 3 weeks under canvas with the kids. I thought i would post what i've already done.
Hopefully all points that have been submitted have been corrected.

The ISO contains the the hsb sfs (209mb) and additional Cups, Kde and Etoys sfs's. total 272mb. The sfs and save files are now hsb_412.sfs and hsb_?????.2fs. I have not done the remaster script, that will still produce a pup_412.sfs. Only just noticed as i have been doing everything manually

I played with the idea of ext3, then shelved it. Need to do more testing as it could impact on lower end machines.

The installer. I made a makeself file. If you go to /root/recycle_this_PC/oneclick.run there is a symlink to the installer in /usr/bin. It will ask for a password: recyclePC (case sensetive) Then the script will kick in.
The frugal install including the sfs's worked as if by magic!. After installing i plugged in my HP G85 and installed it no problem. (had to set it as default)

The full install wasnt so pretty. I tried to work it myself, but as rcrsn51 pointed out theres a lot going on the PUI script. So i stuck with what was there and then puzzled over the SFS on a full install. The answer was the sfs installer from Dejan555, made into a Gui by trio. After the install you have to run fixmenus. So i started to do a script, then remebered the 'refresh menus' option in 421, so i stuck that in just below Help.
So to do a full install, you start the script, the PUI will kick in, carry on as you would with the full install, then close the windows and cancel the windows when the grub installer pops up.
To install sfs (full only). Mount the CD, /menu > utillity > SFS installer. Browse to mnt/sr0 (or whatever the cd is), select the SFS and install. Then go to menu > Refresh Menus.

Xonclock is in and will pop up automatically and the Xpuppy from puppyluvr is on the desktop.

Ctrl+Alt+H will hide the menus, with the exception of shutdown and Fun
CTRL+ALT+R will restore the menus

A folder in my documents/downloads/Printer_drivers is a sym link to cups/model for ppd files

After all the messing with scripts etc i expect bugs have crept in and i would dearly love a solid week to concentrate on this and get it right and test properly. I apologise i dont have that, but its evolving slowly with your help.
I will have limited internet access over the next 3 weeks, but i will endeavour to keep up.

The next step. Wipe the bugs and create some documentation. Get Technosaurus's lite version locked down as a kiosk type thing with dillo.

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