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2.14x
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2.14x
4
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2.14x
11
29%
Other: 2.14x only
12
32%
 
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#341 Post by ecomoney »

Another (small) problem for us Brits is pressing "U" when selecting the keyboard layout in the xorgwizard brings up Ukrainian in 2.14r/x, rather than UK like other puppies. By gum they call our language difficult? :lol:
Puppy Linux's [url=http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=296352#296352]Mission[/url]

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#342 Post by OlddogNewtricks »

Hello again ttuuxxx,
I have a swap partition which puts the text outside the box but only when it's turned on & off, I assumed it was text size but of course it's a button thing. Also noticed when clicking 'eject' on the cd button the resulting 'close' button has no white border & with text in purple it's hard to read. Minor details so should be no problem. Font, colours, icons & refresh button a great improvement over the old.

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#343 Post by tasmod »

Hi Guys,

I haven't changed any settings so I cannot comment reference UK etc. I don't remember being offered any options except Xorg.

I've tried to get the wireless working. I have discovered from original box the pci card came in, that it uses the Ralink RT2561 chipset.

Now the site says rt61 should work but no joy here, it comes up as rt61 with unknown config.
There also appears to be an actual rt2561 driver as well available.

I've looked elsewhere for the driver but no luck. I've downloaded the driver tar.bz from Ralink but it's a bit confusing as it appears to contain 3 drivers and won't compile properly??
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#344 Post by Aitch »

Thanks Eric, sorry about the mixup with Joe's thread [wow a whole pagefull since]


ttuuxxx, am recommending this already, thanks!

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 303#317303


/aside can you help out here?

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 300#317300

Thanks

btw love the spam!

PS this is good

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=314443
Puppyt wrote:Many Thanks again, gposil for your KDE threads.

A quick update on what happened when I tried running dejan555's minimal KDE pet (kdelibs4c2a) and your Kommander - compiled I understand in puppy4.12 - in ttuuxx's recently-enhanced series 2 puplet entitled 214X3:-
sh-3.00# ldd kmdr-editor
./kmdr-editor: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.9' not found (required by /usr/lib/libkommanderwidget.so.0)
./kmdr-editor: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.9' not found (required by /usr/lib/libkommanderwidgets.so.0)
Problem.
However I report success in having those puppy4 KDE pets working in puppy 2 by installing a 'bridging' pet from the official puppy 3 repository: - gcc-g++-4.1.2.pet at http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... ackages-3/.
I have no idea really why it worked (something to do with g++ and glibc libraries, wish I knew what that meant), or whether it will work with other puppy2's - but I'm confident that this is on the right track for anyone wishing to update their KDE environments in early versions of puppy.

Thanks again for opening that portal in the first place, gposil! :D
Aitch :)

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#345 Post by ttuuxxx »

OlddogNewtricks wrote:Hello again ttuuxxx,
I have a swap partition which puts the text outside the box but only when it's turned on & off, I assumed it was text size but of course it's a button thing. Also noticed when clicking 'eject' on the cd button the resulting 'close' button has no white border & with text in purple it's hard to read. Minor details so should be no problem. Font, colours, icons & refresh button a great improvement over the old.
Hi I don't have a swap partition so I can't see what your problem is, I'm just doing everything 100% live, could you please submit an image so I can fix the box size and colour. Thanks
ttuuxxx
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#346 Post by ttuuxxx »

tasmod wrote:Hi Guys,

I haven't changed any settings so I cannot comment reference UK etc. I don't remember being offered any options except Xorg.

I've tried to get the wireless working. I have discovered from original box the pci card came in, that it uses the Ralink RT2561 chipset.

Now the site says rt61 should work but no joy here, it comes up as rt61 with unknown config.
There also appears to be an actual rt2561 driver as well available.

I've looked elsewhere for the driver but no luck. I've downloaded the driver tar.bz from Ralink but it's a bit confusing as it appears to contain 3 drivers and won't compile properly??
Hi could you try this and report back, I compiled the drivers for you.
ttuuxxx

These drivers should work for RT2501
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#347 Post by ttuuxxx »

added another driver, If you need any other drivers please supply the link, This is where I downloaded the sources from.
http://www.ralinktech.com/ralink/Home/S ... htmlrt2561
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http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#348 Post by tasmod »

Thanks ttuuxxx,

I'll download and transfer them to the troublesome computer.

In the meantime I've loaded it onto todays 'skip' find .

A 1400mhz Sempron machine with 512mb ram, soundblaster card, cdrw, 8 usb and a floppy, all in a case, maybe a bit scratched but not badly.
Can't believe someone threw this out :D
I just added an 80gig disk, monitor, mouse and keyboard and off it went.

Runs 214 perfect, even started up on wireless. I'm using firefox right now, settings are just right. I've been enjoying the news feeds for a while.

I will get the other going though :)
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#349 Post by ttuuxxx »

nice find rob, I hope those drivers work for you, I'm interested in finding out if they did, Its my first time compiling drivers, so I have my fingers crossed.
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http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

dawnsboy

I think we found a winner!

#350 Post by dawnsboy »

Screen shot of 2.14x3 with tempestous' eeepc driver patches applied. Posting from this desktop using WPA wireless connection. I rearranged things a little bit for the small screen. This is solid. Thanks ttuuxxx.

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#351 Post by ttuuxxx »

dawnsboy wrote:Screen shot of 2.14x3 with tempestous' eeepc driver patches applied. Posting from this desktop using WPA wireless connection. I rearranged things a little bit for the small screen. This is solid. Thanks ttuuxxx.
Looks good on your little screen, glad it works :)
ttuuxxx
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#352 Post by tempestuous »

tasmod wrote:I have discovered from original box the pci card came in, that it uses the Ralink RT2561 chipset.
Yes, that chipset is definitely supported by the rt61 driver in earlier kernels (later kernels use the rt61pci driver).
But Puppy 214R/X already contains the rt61 driver, and it has been successfully used by other forum members. It would be worth doing some diagnosis - you should run this command

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lspci -n
to make sure that your wifi device is recognised.
ttuuxxx wrote:2009_0123_RT61_Linux_STA_v1.1.2.3-i386.pet
There's unnecessary duplication going on here. As I said, Puppy 214R/X already contains the rt61 driver.
And if you want an updated version of the rt61 driver, the best available is the version from the rt2x00 development project, which I already contributed 4 days ago - rt61-20090412-k2.6.18.1.pet
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 232#316232
The version that ttuuxxx compiled is the proprietary version, upon which the rt2x00 version is based. The rt2x00 version is bugfixed and improved.

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#353 Post by ttuuxxx »

Hi tempestuous, I don't use wireless, but I do a have wireless modem, and I configured it not to broadcast wireless, due to the fact that I've networked my house using cat6, Well 4 rooms anyways :) Anyways when I seen your test you posted, I was wondering what it would show, Could you maybe explain what that output means? So I might get some understanding on the topic. Thanks for your help
ttuuxxx

sh-3.00# lspci -n
00:00.0 0600: 1106:0351
00:00.1 0600: 1106:1351
00:00.2 0600: 1106:2351
00:00.3 0600: 1106:3351
00:00.4 0600: 1106:4351
00:00.5 0800: 1106:5351
00:00.6 0600: 1106:6238
00:00.7 0600: 1106:7351
00:01.0 0604: 1106:b999
00:02.0 0604: 1106:a238
00:03.0 0604: 1106:c238
00:03.1 0604: 1106:d238
00:03.2 0604: 1106:e238
00:03.3 0604: 1106:f238
00:0f.0 0101: 1106:0591 (rev 80)
00:0f.1 0101: 1106:0571 (rev 07)
00:10.0 0c03: 1106:3038 (rev a0)
00:10.1 0c03: 1106:3038 (rev a0)
00:10.2 0c03: 1106:3038 (rev a0)
00:10.3 0c03: 1106:3038 (rev a0)
00:10.4 0c03: 1106:3104 (rev 86)
00:11.0 0601: 1106:3337
00:11.7 0600: 1106:287e
00:13.0 0604: 1106:337b
00:13.1 0604: 1106:337a
00:18.0 0600: 1022:1100
00:18.1 0600: 1022:1101
00:18.2 0600: 1022:1102
00:18.3 0600: 1022:1103
02:00.0 0300: 10de:0421 (rev a1)
06:00.0 0106: 11ab:6121 (rev b0)
07:08.0 0200: 10ec:8139 (rev 10)
08:01.0 0403: 1106:3288 (rev 10)
sh-3.00#
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#354 Post by clarf »

Hi ttuuxxx, i have a little request, could you please update the /etc/puppyversion file with the release version, now I have many 2.14 ISO not labeled. The 2.14.x3 version could work.

Thank you

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#355 Post by ttuuxxx »

clarf wrote:Hi ttuuxxx, i have a little request, could you please update the /etc/puppyversion file with the release version, now I have many 2.14 ISO not labeled. The 2.14.x3 version could work.

Thank you
If I update the version number. wouldn't I have to start updating the devx numbers also?
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http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
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#356 Post by clarf »

ttuuxxx wrote: If I update the version number. wouldn't I have to start updating the devx numbers also?
ttuuxxx
Hmmm, well I think soon or late you´ll have to do it...

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#357 Post by ttuuxxx »

I've also been informed that it will messup petget and other programs that call for that number. I was also told it would be best to leave it untounched, by a reliable source. lol
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Ps almost finished with the next release, just have to test it now.
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#358 Post by clarf »

ttuuxxx wrote:I've also been informed that it will messup petget and other programs that call for that number. I was also told it would be best to leave it untounched, by a reliable source. lol
ttuuxxx
Ps almost finished with the next release, just have to test it now.
Then, We shouldn´t play with it (yet).

About the next release a final though, How much space would you need to have a browser, a mail client and a html editor, without using SeaMonkey?. FireFox is my main browser in Windows and Linux, but how could we keep it in Puppy without losing features that are already present in Seamonkey and using the same or less size?.

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#359 Post by ttuuxxx »

clarf wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:I've also been informed that it will messup petget and other programs that call for that number. I was also told it would be best to leave it untounched, by a reliable source. lol
ttuuxxx
Ps almost finished with the next release, just have to test it now.
Then, We shouldn´t play with it (yet).

About the next release a final though, How much space would you need to have a browser, a mail client and a html editor, without using SeaMonkey?. FireFox is my main browser in Windows and Linux, but how could we keep it in Puppy without losing features that are already present in Seamonkey and using the same or less size?.
Well as that goes, I was thinking that people will not be satisfied with anything I would provide. During 4.2 build when had Seamonkey only no mail, and was using Claws Mail, people complained, Its just that there's so much choice for mail clients, Like Claws, Thunderbird, Seamonkey mail, simple mail, everybody wants a different mail client, I'll leave it up to them, I've already supplied a Full seamonkey package that can add, also I have a complete claws mail package they can add and the latest thunder bird is in the forum, and well simple mail they can download, I might make a installer program that they can click and it will download the package they want, As a wysiwyg editor goes I'll Include a Firefox plugin for one.
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http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
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#360 Post by clarf »

ttuuxxx wrote:
clarf wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:I've also been informed that it will messup petget and other programs that call for that number. I was also told it would be best to leave it untounched, by a reliable source. lol
ttuuxxx
Ps almost finished with the next release, just have to test it now.
Then, We shouldn´t play with it (yet).

About the next release a final though, How much space would you need to have a browser, a mail client and a html editor, without using SeaMonkey?. FireFox is my main browser in Windows and Linux, but how could we keep it in Puppy without losing features that are already present in Seamonkey and using the same or less size?.
Well as that goes, I was thinking that people will not be satisfied with anything I would provide. During 4.2 build when had Seamonkey only no mail, and was using Claws Mail, people complained, Its just that there's so much choice for mail clients, Like Claws, Thunderbird, Seamonkey mail, simple mail, everybody wants a different mail client, I'll leave it up to them, I've already supplied a Full seamonkey package that can add, also I have a complete claws mail package they can add and the latest thunder bird is in the forum, and well simple mail they can download, I might make a installer program that they can click and it will download the package they want, As a wysiwyg editor goes I'll Include a Firefox plugin for one.
ttuuxxx
You are right ttuuxxx it´s very hard to please all kind of tastes, then a good (I mean updated, categorized and organized) repository for 2.14x could help. But the maintenance work will be very hard.

I use thunderbird or Seamonkey for mail, sadly Mozilla foundation don´t update them like FireFox.

Meanwhile the plugin editor sounds good, I never hear of one before apart from kompoze (it was good, although it messed up the html code, damn nothing is perfect...) , I personally use some useful extensions: Tab Scope, english dictionary and extended copy menu. Which ones could be added without increasing Puppy size and which ones are really needed?. (I didn´t take notice of plugin size in firefox before). Again the best option is keep it small and let the final decision to the user...

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